The Manics New Song on Wall of Mouths

The Manics New Song

Started by Charlie in Other Bands & Artists on Wed, 7 March 2007 at 15:31

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

i think the idea of putting out a duet is to just try and get some cardigans fans (i believe there are some) to buy the single. i just listened to it again and it’s awful. embarassingly awful. fucking wire.

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 11:36

#32

Dennis wrote:

“fucking Wire” indeed! :D

The worst thing is how he talks such a great game but then fails to deliver.

Apparently, Underdogs sounds like “something off the second side of Appetite For Destruction…Nightrain or Raocket Queen”.

EH?! Does it heck as like!

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 11:43

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buffalo-boy wrote:

The worst thing is how he talks such a great game but then fails to deliver.

The Manics have been doing this for about 11 years now!

@notthatkindofguy - i’ll be at cambridge. Lets meet up - i’ve never met a fellow WOM before!

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 15:04

#34

Charlie wrote:

I am looking forward to the new album. I actually really liked Lifeblood and Know Your Enemy was pretty good too ( in my opinion. )

For me, the worst album they’ve done so far is This is My Truth, Can I Get You A Pillow ?

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 15:05

#35

romy wrote:

OMG, that song is BORING :(

James looks gorgeous though.

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 16:08

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Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

i think know ur enemy is one of the best the manics have done, underrated i think

this is my truth is their worst but, still good tho.

i think theres nowt wrong with the lyrics in underdogs, its rememberable and catchy.

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 22:44

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Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

theres no such word as ‘rememberable’ is there

i mean memorable

silly me, lol :D

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 22:47

#38

not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

Graeme55? wrote:
i think theres nowt wrong with the lyrics in underdogs, its rememberable and catchy.

i just have this image of wire sitting down and thinking “hmmm, if i include words like fuck and freaks in a song, maybe people will pay attention”.

james should go solo. i managed to bullshit my way through the last two albums being rubbish but from the two tracks i’ve heard from send away the tigers (and there’s only ten on it), i think the manics ship is one i am going to have to avoid from now on.

i wouldn’t mind if this was just some band that i was a casual listener to but i’m actually really pissed off about how bad they have become. basically i’ve spent the last ten years saying “oh, but the next album will be better”.

and with that, i have finally reached my 1000th post. do i get a prize?

Posted on Mon, 19 March 2007 at 23:29

#39

Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

well done dude, ur prize is ‘send away the tigers’ by the manics :D

fair enough its ur opinion, i for one am glad that the distorted guitars are back, underdogs is a class tune, and james’ voice sounds stronger than ever, and seans drumming is useful now, on lifeblood he hardly did fuck all.

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 00:09

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

don’t get me wrong here. i absolutely adore the manics. i have spent my entire adult life telling everyone how great they are. the first five albums will always be amongst my favourite albums ever (TIMTTMY however primarily because of the b sides).

and of course, anyone who know’s anything about me would tell you that the holy bible is the best album ever by anyone. fact.

i can’t wait to see them live again. on the past/present/future tour they were amazing.

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 00:53

#41

Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

holy bible is the best i agree, but not the best by anyone tho, troublegum is fav.

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 01:34

#42

Charlie wrote:

THB is probably best album ever.

Six by Mansun is close too. Stunning album.

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 01:47

#43

buffalo-boy wrote:

Yeah, Six is very good. phuq is up there for me aswell.

The Manics had better be good on this tour. Fromn their press releases it sounds like they are clutching at the last fragments of cred and this could be the last chance to deliver.

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 08:25

#44

Dennis wrote:

The Manics should have changed their name when Richie left and got that second guitarist in sooner.

And as for that keyboard player - KEYBOARDS ON MOTOWN JUNK?!
WTF?!

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 09:50

#45

buffalo-boy wrote:

keyboards on faster…ggrrrrrrr!

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 10:22

#46

Dennis wrote:

:D Totally agree mate!

And it’s not just any rubbish keyboard sound, it’s a proper Hammond organ cheese-fest.

OI, KEYBOARDERIST, NOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 10:24

#47

romy wrote:

Squall wrote:
THB is probably best album ever.

Six by Mansun is close too. Stunning album.

Amen to that. I miss Mansun :(

Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 11:27

#48

Charlie wrote:

Too Bad Little Kix was dissapointing.

Kleptomania was alright.

Paul Draper’s solo stuff might be ok.

Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 13:44

#49

buffalo-boy wrote:

Mansun deserved better from the English press and music fans, they would still be around today if people weren’t so hostile to them, they had some crackin tunes.

Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 14:54

#50

Charlie wrote:

Attack of the Grey Lantern is one of the best debuts of all time.

Six took some getting used to !

I fucking hated it ! now I love it ! :D

Little Kix was supposed to be a return to grey Lantern

popppiness but didnt quite accheive it.

Kleptomania could have been the return to from if only they had finished it :)

Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 16:07

#51

Charlie wrote:

I have now heard ” your love alone is not enough ”

I quite like it. Its GT / EMG.

I like underdogs too.

The album may actually be good ! :eek:

Posted on Sat, 24 March 2007 at 01:44

#52

Superunknown wrote:

Dennis wrote:
Apparently, Underdogs sounds like “something off the second side of Appetite For Destruction…Nightrain or Raocket Queen”.

“Nightrain” isn’t even on the second side of AFD!

Posted on Sun, 25 March 2007 at 15:54

#53

Dennis wrote:

Ha ha I know, first thing I thought!

Second thing I thought was: “Fuck me, Wire, GET A CD PLAYER!”

Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 08:30

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

the manics last night on the charlotte church show. oh dreary me bugger fuck nuts.

i’m embarrassed.

Posted on Sat, 31 March 2007 at 10:52

#55

Superunknown wrote:

A description of the new album in their own words (from the Manics’ website):

SEND AWAY THE TIGERS
Musically - ‘All You Need Is Love’ played by Guns ‘n’ Roses. The decline of the two Tony’s - Blair and Hancock, the zoo in Baghdad, a symbol of misguided liberation releasing horror and animal instinct - the idea of being haunted by decisions forever. When politics work it is usually a compromise. Hancock described his alcoholic demons with the phrase ‘Send Away The Tigers’

UNDERDOGS
All out punk metal - Alice Cooper - Stooges guitar outro
Could have been on Generation Terrorists. A celebration of the unique, a post ‘Everything Must Go’ address to the fans 10 years after the first time we did it. In a Britain dominated by generic, one dimensional multi branding, let us embrace the difference - the downtrodden - the losers and the opposition. Let us fall in love with individuality again

YOUR LOVE ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH
Keith Moon drums, Pete Townsend power cords, sonically similar to Hole’s ‘Celebrity Skin’ - ‘Everything Must Go’ era - euphoric rock. Written as a duet with Nina Perrson (Cardigans) in mind - lyrically a two-way conversation in my head about love - religion - democracy and Richey.

INDIAN SUMMER
Musically a minor cord companion piece to a ‘Design For Life’, uplifting melancholia
All most Napoleonic - the final throw of the dice - Jimmy from Quadrophina staring over the cliff - youthful idealism gone sour but hope for the future by appreciating the past.

THE SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION
Musically - ‘How Soon Is Now’ but played by The Smashing Pumpkins with ELO harmonies - friendship, desire and determination, paralysed by the disaster of UK and USA foreign policy

RENDITION
A modern day take on Jeff Beck’s ‘Bolero’ and The Clash’s ‘Tommy Gun’, militaristic Skids guitars with ‘Love Removal Machine’ drums - the idea of airspace or Guantanamo Bay being above or outside the law - Jack Lemmon used as a symbol of the America we once respected - humble talented intellectual and engaged

AUTUMNSONG
Classic coming of age punk ballad - Aerosmith’s ‘I See You Crying’, ‘Sweet Child of Mine’ guitars and The Ramones doing ‘Baby I Love You’. The power of your first feelings love - hate - confusion - feeling bullet proof, your first kiss - your first fight - your first drink of alcohol. The power of naive idealism

I AM JUST A PATSY
A real guilty pleasure 70’s American rock, Mercury Rev’s ‘Goddess On A Highway’ played by Boston. The conceit and desire of fame - the need for conspiracies
The inability of the human race to deal with boredom and mundane truths

IMPERIAL BODYBAGS
‘Brand New Cadillac’ - ‘Stray Cat Strut’ - over the top Jeff Beck guitar solo - the demonisation of American people projecting their leaders inadequacies on to a whole country - one evil replaced by another - seduction through imagery not fact

WINTERLOVERS
Big Mott the Hoople chorus - Ronnie Lane bass solo - reconnection between yourself and your mental and your environmental landscape - Radio Ga Ga breakdown - Paradise City backing vocals

Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 13:12

#56

Charlie wrote:

so, 10 piano ballads then :p

Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 14:08