#61
buffalo-boy wrote:
I had to turn it off. The song is a bit anaemic and that performance was pretty boring.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 13:05
#62
Dennis wrote:
Yeah, they seem to have settled into middle-aged, mid-tempo songs that just don’t come across well in front of an uninterested TV audience, don’t they?
The Manics have always been hit-and-miss live, so a TV performance is never going to find them at their best, especially with such a bland song.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 13:20
#63
Charlie wrote:
At least theyre trying.
James hasnt looked this healthy in years and the loud guitars are finally back !
Normally bands can never recapture their old sound but we should at least be thankful its not another acoustic and piano led ballad album.
:cool:
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 16:02
#64
Bad Karma wrote:
It’ll probably be another average Manics album with a couple of good songs and lots of average filler songs.
I’d really like if they’d return to form but i think it’s way too late now.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 22:26
#65
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
@ bad karma: yep. i think you’ve hit the nail right on the head there.
how are you by the way? i ain’t seen you on here for ages.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 22:47
#66
Bad Karma wrote:
I’m fine thanks, i’ve had computer problems and my evil managers at work have blocked the WOM.
I’m getting my new computer next week so i’ll be online a bit more often.
Believe it not i actually listened to Know Your Enemy a few days ago for the first time in what must be over a year.It wasn’t as bad as i remember and i actually enjoyed some of the songs still not as good as anything as the first five albums though.
I’ve heard live versions of I’m Just A Patsy and Autumn Song, they’re alright a lot better than Underdogs and Your Love Aone.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 23:21
#67
buffalo-boy wrote:
I listened to TIMT…TMY the other day and really enjoyed it. Its good Sunday morning music. :)
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 09:28
#68
Dennis wrote:
It takes a day as dull as a Sunday to make TIMT..TMY sound good, I will grant you that
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 09:40
#69
mr self destruct wrote:
Title: Unoriginal but interesting question
What does everyone reckon happened to Richey, then? I don’t really know what to think…
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 11:22
#70
Dennis wrote:
I think he committed suicide, and I get the impression that Nicky and the band think the same.
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 11:34
#71
mr self destruct wrote:
What have they said that gives you that impression? It is pretty hard to believe that there hasn’t been any definite sighting or news of him…plus the circumstances surrounding his disappearance were ominous (leaving his passport and pills behind etc.)…
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 11:36
#72
Dennis wrote:
Well, first off I forget where I read it now but there has been suggestions of a previous attempt, though Richey denied it at the time.
Also, on the EMG DVD they talk about the calmness that comes over someone when they decide to commit suicide, or disappear, and it appears to me that they bring up suicide quite readily, as if they have at least considered it as a strong possibility.
Maybe I am reading too much into it, I can easily believe I am , although my brother came to the same conclusion from watching it and mentioned it before I had said anything.
I imagine that the truth is that they just have no idea at all, just like the rest of us, but it has to be a likely outcome, don’t you think?
Richey on a kibbutz? (sp?) Nah
Where would he have gone, what would he have done?
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 11:53
#73
Dennis wrote:
(Or maybe they just figured that if he had heard This Is My Truth.. he’d have thrown himself under the nearest Eddie Stobart…)
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 12:16
#74
Superunknown wrote:
When has it been made officially that he had disappeared anyway? Like, when do you declare someone gone?
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 23:39
#75
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
they declare sum1 dead 7 years after he/she disappears
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 00:15
#76
mr self destruct wrote:
Apparantly his family could have had him officially declared dead after he was misssing 7 years but chose not to.
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 06:08
#77
buffalo-boy wrote:
Richey has apparently been spotted in Goa a few times although i have no idea how a man like him could spend 10 years away and not think about what he left behind without going mad. I think he’s unhappy somewhere else!
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 08:07
#78
Dennis wrote:
The Goa stories were pretty laughable though, don’t you think?
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 08:48
#79
mr self destruct wrote:
They sounded a bit silly to me… The only thing I’ve heard that might suggest he planned a disappearance is that he withdrew two hundred quid every day in the two weeks before he vanished.
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 09:00
#80
Dennis wrote:
I also remember them mentioning that he read a lot of books about the “perfect disappearance”, a la John Stonehouse etc.
He certainly had (has?) the intellegence to think up something like that, the extremity of personality to carry it out and also a motivation - he had been very ill to the point of rehab of some sort, he had discussed leaving the band for his own health and yet he couldn’t just sit on the sidelines and write lyrics for them, he said it wouldn’t feel right, so a total overhaul of his life to reinvent himself may have been his answer (in his mind, at least.)
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 11:30
#81
Dennis wrote:
..”he certainly has the intellegence..”
:rolleyes:
Unlike myself, who can obviously not spell “intelligence” correctly…
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 12:08
#82
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
i don’t know what happened to him really. i just think the guy was incredibly shitty to his family and friends to just “disappear” or however you want to put it.
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 14:06
#83
romy wrote:
I don’t think he’s dead. Don’t ask me why. I think if he were, he wouldn’t have done it in secret.
Anywhoo, back to the new album…I agree, bringing the inverted R’s and the fairies back doesn’t mean th emusic will correspond to that, and after hearing Underdogs and the Nina Persson duet (which would have been cool 10 years ago, but NOT ANYMORE!!), I’m not very optimistic.
And the description from the website that you posted…all those comparisons - why the heck can’t they sound like themselves anymore, just like they used to?!
Plus:
Quote (author unknown):
Aerosmith’s ‘I See You Crying’
It’s “You See ME Crying” for Fuck’s sake. And that’s not even closely a punk rock song. Just as “Cryin’” isn’t one either. If that’s the shape of Manics to come, then thanks, but no thanks.
And I was so hopeful since James’ album*cries*
*goes back to listen to The Ark for glam and fairydust*
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 17:30
#84
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
Posted on Wed, 4 April 2007 at 18:20
#85
buffalo-boy wrote:
Me too!
I find being nasty towards the Mainics easy these days since they are now the old dinosaurs they said they’d never become but hats off to them for keeping going regardless. They have my respect for that. :)
And hey, what do they care? At the end of this tour they’ll have earnt the money to buy themselves a new house extension with room for a pony each! :D
Posted on Thu, 5 April 2007 at 07:24
#86
Superunknown wrote:
romy wrote:
Anywhoo, back to the new album…I agree, bringing the inverted R’s and the fairies back doesn’t mean th emusic will correspond to that, and after hearing Underdogs and the Nina Persson duet (which would have been cool 10 years ago, but NOT ANYMORE!!), I’m not very optimistic.
And the description from the website that you posted…all those comparisons - why the heck can’t they sound like themselves anymore, just like they used to?!
Plus:
It’s “You See ME Crying” for Fuck’s sake. And that’s not even closely a punk rock song. Just as “Cryin’” isn’t one either. If that’s the shape of Manics to come, then thanks, but no thanks.
And I was so hopeful since James’ album*cries*
*goes back to listen to The Ark for glam and fairydust*
I don’t get why they keep making silly mistakes like that when quoting legendary songs/albums. Nicky Wire misspelled “Quadrophenia” like 3 times on the website.
Anyway, them comparing their new stuff to other bands isn’t so bad after all. Therapy? always do the same when they describe the process of a new album coming together. I remember they were like “NANE sounds totally like Joy Division and QOTSA”. While you can hear those influences if you know about them, you would never say that anything off NANE is a QOTSA rip off.
Posted on Thu, 5 April 2007 at 14:55
#87
Taunty Dan wrote:
buffalo-boy wrote:
Me too!
I find being nasty towards the Mainics easy these days since they are now the old dinosaurs they said they’d never become but hats off to them for keeping going regardless. They have my respect for that. :)
oh mate mate mate!! you shouldn’t give folk credit for plodding on shitfully! give them credit after they’e fucked off for a few years and come back with something worth listening to!!!! :D If you have to hmmm and ponder over a song then fuck me, give up! if it don’t make you go “FUCKING HELL THIS IS AMAZING!!” then its probably not worth it. And this,dear wombles, isn’t. Its dull dull dull. But well done to jimmy bradfield for losing a bit of weight. :)
Posted on Thu, 5 April 2007 at 17:07
#88
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
And there you have Mr Taunty Dan, folks! Always able to find a silver lining in the greyest of clouds! :D
Posted on Thu, 5 April 2007 at 18:40
#89
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
Taunty Dan wrote:
oh mate mate mate!! you shouldn’t give folk credit for plodding on shitfully! give them credit after they’e fucked off for a few years and come back with something worth listening to!!!! :D If you have to hmmm and ponder over a song then fuck me, give up! if it don’t make you go “FUCKING HELL THIS IS AMAZING!!” then its probably not worth it. And this,dear wombles, isn’t. Its dull dull dull. But well done to jimmy bradfield for losing a bit of weight. :)
you have summed up the last ten years of the manics there for me. in one easily digestible paragraph. :)
but because i’m rubbish, i keep saying “oh but the next album will be great”. or the old cliche’d classic “but they’re ace live” (which they are).
Posted on Thu, 5 April 2007 at 18:52
#90
Lola* wrote:
Dennis wrote:
Mate, I am watching it on YouTube right now…Sweet Jesus NOOOOOOOOO!
i must admit though that charlotte church is far better than that crappy cardigans singer…she has a stronger less whiney voice.
Posted on Fri, 6 April 2007 at 09:39
