#151
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Slight correction,
They claim to be going back to being Metal giants - or do you mean St. Anger? I hope not.
Remember, St. Anger was also hyped by the little troll as being a return to form - he lied then also.
Listen, I am not buying into anything until I hear this new album, as far as I am concerned they are still a bunch of washed up sell outs that live off their past glories.
They are however still great live - I will not argue against that.
You want to see Metal Giants, check out Megadeth. Musicianship that destroys Metallica.
Posted on Tue, 29 May 2007 at 08:02
#152
Dennis wrote:
Metallica’s problem is that once they were ahead of the pack and now they are playing catch up. It happens to a lot of bands that hang around for a long time, but you can either stick to what you do and watch it drift in and out of fashion (e.g. Iron Maiden) or you can constantly change and experiment (e.g. David Bowie).
Problem is, if you stick to one sound for years and years, and then decide to change and experiment, it smacks of desperation.
Posted on Tue, 29 May 2007 at 09:51
#153
Charlie wrote:
Now Kirk is bigging up the new LP.
” Its the best album we’ve done for 15 years. Heavy, really fast, the guitars are tuned back up to E Standard. james sounds like he did in the 80’s again. - Its what our 6th album should have been. ”
Everyone will say ” thats what he said about st anger ” but if memory serves - the only thing I remember said about st anger was ” it was really agressive and more like justice on account of the length of songs ”
I never heard anyone say St Anger was a return to form.
Posted on Thu, 31 May 2007 at 13:36
#154
(FIN) King Alcohol (Sami) wrote:
And I think St. Anger was a big disappointment for Kirk not to shoot his solos out there anywhere. :D
Maybe ‘tallica is coming out with a melodic trash album (that’s what I wished for St. Anger). Trash is the best thing they can do. And nothing else matters. ;)
Posted on Thu, 31 May 2007 at 14:46
#155
(FIN) King Alcohol (Sami) wrote:
St. Anger wasn’t a return to form it was ONLY A FUCKING THERAPY RECORD to bring the band back together. Case closed and locked up tightly and I swallowed the keys.
:)
Posted on Thu, 31 May 2007 at 14:49
#156
Dennis wrote:
St Anger was a good argument for the fact that you should only write music when you are inspired, when you have something to say or express and NOT just cos, well, we should do an album, been a while since the last one…etc
Posted on Fri, 1 June 2007 at 10:02
#157
Taunty Dan wrote:
For me if a band has to really struggle to write/record an album then why do it? Metallica could crawl out of the wodwork every couple of years and do a decent tour with the songs they already have, so why struggle to put out yet more mediocre ones? I don’t understand why people are even talking about them to be honest.
Posted on Fri, 1 June 2007 at 11:53
#158
buffalo-boy wrote:
What, like yourself?? :D
I think St Anger (although it went wrong commercially) was the only album they could have made at that time. They were letting people get inside a period of their lives, not just making an album. I’d rather be happy doing what I like and having no-one like me, than try and please others. I know from experience that no-one will give a fuck!!
Posted on Fri, 1 June 2007 at 15:00
#159
Taunty Dan wrote:
Yes, like me! :p
No but i stand by my point, why do folk still care? Must be sheer desperate hope! :D
Posted on Fri, 1 June 2007 at 15:07
#160
buffalo-boy wrote:
Us ‘Tallica fans can dream can’t we?! :)
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 07:24
#161
Charlie wrote:
Metallica have only really done ONE bad album.
A band is allowed to make music if they want to !
After 5 albums whcih people regard as classics, two albums which were perfectly fine in their own right and one album which was a mess but still not as bad as people make out…
:) Its like saying why does Megadeth carry on ?
Why shouldnt they ? :D
The Rolling Stones on the other hand…:o
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 10:47
#162
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
You seem to be missing the point,
The problem is that Lar$ is a two-faced lying douchebag. This is the same guy who during the Load era told fans of classic Metallica to grow up and that they would never play that type of music again - i.e. mocked those who helped him get where he is today.
St. Anger was hyped as a “return to form” - what a fucking lie, and now this new one has a “Puppets vibe”. Seems like they have realised that there is not market for the 3 - not 1, pile of crap albums that are there most previous releases - it has been over 10 years since they have done anything worth mentioning, let alone metal
Megadeths low point was “Risk”, after that Dave Mustaine said “fuck this” and said that he was going back to thrash metal again - he, unlike the little troll, kept his word - check out United Abominations - Metallica can only dream of creating something that comes close by this point.
Who do Metallica have to save them when it comes to song writing - no more Burton, no more Mustaine, only Hetfield. Kind of a coincidence that this band started running out of ideas after Justice???
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 10:58
#163
buffalo-boy wrote:
Mustaine writes better riffs and more poetic lyrics AND has better song arrangements but is very blinkered in his views. Megadeth have beeen out of date for some time now - Metallica made the Load albums and got a whole new fanbase while Megadeth plodded along - and Risk is one of the worst rock albums ever created - far crapper than St Anger IMO.
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 13:24
#164
Dennis wrote:
Personally I cannot take anything Mustaine does seriously.
His voice just sounds so fake, it’s like a little kid trying to do a “scary” voice.
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 13:39
#165
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Yeah? Well, he thinks you sound like a poopoo head.
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 14:00
#166
Taunty Dan wrote:
:D
Trouble is we all think that. ;)
And while i’m here i’ve got to say something cos its killing me: what the fuck is all this “‘Tallica” crap?? Is it so hard to add the “Me”? its actually not even “Me” its more “M”. Jesus.
I’m off to listen to some ‘Erapy?,and maybe some “Gadeth.
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 17:11
#167
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
buffalo-boy wrote:
Mustaine writes better riffs and more poetic lyrics AND has better song arrangements but is very blinkered in his views. Megadeth have beeen out of date for some time now - Metallica made the Load albums and got a whole new fanbase while Megadeth plodded along - and Risk is one of the worst rock albums ever created - far crapper than St Anger IMO.
A fan base of EMO kids and Nu-Metal heads - big whoop.
I am looking forward to seeing the “out of date band” play a sold out gig next weekend in Dublin.
Posted on Mon, 4 June 2007 at 17:18
#168
buffalo-boy wrote:
Not really… nu metal and emo weren’t around in the mid nineties when the Load’s came out!
ps there’s no need to take it personally… I was being nice about megadeth, i just mentioned the fact that they’ve been doing an Iron Maiden and stuck to the same formula. I even had a ticket to go see them in London in a couple o weeks but can’t make it which i’m a bit annoyed about.
‘Unty Dan, what are you talking about? :p
Posted on Tue, 5 June 2007 at 07:29
#169
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Hi There,
I am not taking it personally - I will however admit that Metallica in general just pisses me off of late. I guess seeing the some kind of monster movie just made me realise what a twat Lar Ulrich is.
Nu Metal was started by Korn, and as far as I am aware both them and the Deftones had albums out in the mid-90’s.
I remember the time, and general masses jumped on the band wagon calling Load and Re-Load metal.
It eventually inspired Metallica to have no Guitar solos, like on St. Anger.
I am a big fan of thrash metal, Megadeth currently falls into that category, Metallica haven’t since Justice.
Point taken though.
Posted on Tue, 5 June 2007 at 12:48
#170
paulpryor wrote:
justice is the album for me.
i bought that on tape when it first came out, i was 13 and wore the thing out in my walkman within a month.
puppets is great too though.
anyone heard the justice demos? got them here, quality is ok. funny to hear james singing wa nanana instead of the final lyrics and slightly different solos from kirk
Posted on Tue, 12 June 2007 at 18:28
#171
Dennis wrote:
I loved the song St Anger, but the album was rubbish.
On their website, it says something about their new recordings along the lines of “Lars has remembered to put the snare on his snare drum and Kirk has recorded guitar solos!”
Sad to see a band back-pedalling like that in an attempt to get back on-side with fans.
As for thrash, I think they should leave that to Slayer and head back towards a Black album-era sound. I think that is what Metallica could do best now. Not to say it is the best they have ever done, but with what they have left in the tank, I think Black Album style music is the one thing they could still pull off.
Posted on Wed, 13 June 2007 at 08:40
#172
Charlie wrote:
Quote (author unknown):
Sad to see a band back-pedalling like that in an attempt to get back on-side with fans.
Or they realise it was a mistake and are assuring everyone it wont be happening again.
Posted on Wed, 13 June 2007 at 12:04
#173
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
And the difference between that and back peddling is…
:p
Posted on Wed, 13 June 2007 at 19:47
#174
Charlie wrote:
Well, they might have thought it was good at the time.
Just because you release something you think is good, you might change your mind later.
They were probably just stoked to release ANYTHING at the time.
But now they look back on it they realise it wasnt that great…?
Posted on Wed, 13 June 2007 at 21:34
#175
buffalo-boy wrote:
I think that is the case. I don’t care… i think it’s alright!
Posted on Fri, 15 June 2007 at 07:26
#176
(FIN) King Alcohol (Sami) wrote:
Taunty Dan wrote:
:D
And while i’m here i’ve got to say something cos its killing me: what the fuck is all this “‘Tallica” crap?? Is it so hard to add the “Me”? its actually not even “Me” its more “M”. Jesus.
I’m off to listen to some ‘Erapy?,and maybe some “Gadeth.
And don’t forget Irons! Or QOTSA. :)
It’s not ‘erapy? it’s T? ;)
It’s way much shorter to type ‘tallica. I’m too lazy to type the bands full name, one letter too much. :D
But hey,hey,hey..the worst song by ‘tallica is Disappear. Why the hell they wrote that kinda shit!?
Posted on Thu, 21 June 2007 at 08:27
#177
Charlie wrote:
I dissapear is good.
The Worst Metallica song ever is All Within My Hands.
Posted on Thu, 21 June 2007 at 12:42
#178
buffalo-boy wrote:
Interesting opinions. I like both the above songs - the worst Metallica song would have to be ooh… Thorn Within perhaps? or Mama Said even.
Posted on Fri, 22 June 2007 at 07:35
#179
deadsetgav wrote:
Ronnie is Metallicas shittest song by far.
Utter fucking crap
Posted on Fri, 22 June 2007 at 11:31
#180
Charlie wrote:
Ronnie isnt as bad as Poor Twisted Me.
I also prefer ReLoad to Load.
And Justice For All is my least favourite :D
Controversial I know !
Posted on Fri, 22 June 2007 at 14:01
