#61
Divers (Simon) wrote:
Well Load/reload was sort of a double… with some very heavy clearing of the chaff, it would have made really good one.
But double albums in general I can only think of one that doesn’t need trimming and that is Physical Graffiti. The new RHCP album is albout fifteen songs too long same with the smashing pumkins, SOAD’s albums could have made one great one. I love the white album by the beatles but that could have been halved in all honesty. It’s great that a band are creative enough to write enough for a double… but don’t be so arrogent/ignorant to think that every song is amazing..pick the good ones for FUCKS SAKE!!!
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 15:14
#62
Dennis wrote:
What you said.
*nods in agreement*
Back in the days when a band could fit 8 or 9 reasonably-sized songs onto a vinyl record, fair play that some chose to expand it into a double - but that would only be the equivalent of a single CD now.
I have numerous CD’s in my collection that are 13, 14 tracks long and should have been trimmed down to 10.
God only knows why anyone would want or need 25 plus songs from the same band in one sitting, nice as it is to get new material from a band you love.
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 15:39
#63
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Now there is a good double disc.
As for Metallica doing one, let us hope that Lars does not visit WOM and get more silly ideas into his head!
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 15:47
#64
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
KJC Dublin wrote:
“and justice for all” sounds like there was no bass guitar whatsoever.
thats because there isnt any bass at all :D
it may say jason newstead on the credits, but there is no bass on the album.
Posted on Sun, 25 March 2007 at 23:16
#65
Charlie wrote:
There is bass = its just really quiet :D
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 00:15
#66
LunacyBooth wrote:
Jerry Cantrell’s Degradation Trip - the 2CD version and not the trimmed down Road runner release is a fantastic double CD!
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 11:23
#67
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
Squall wrote:
There is bass = its just really quiet :D
nope, there is absolutely NO bass at all.
metallica were being presseured with the cd, and jason newstead knew all the parts but was unable to record them as they were pressured with the cds release, fact.
seeing as everyones doing this i might as well do it:
kill em all - good
ride the lighning - good
master of puppets - classic
justice - brilliant
black - very good
load - good
reload - good
garage inc - good
s&m - brilliant
st anger - very good
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 12:59
#68
Dennis wrote:
Graeme, bless you mate but it is not a “fact” that there is no bass guitar recorded on ..And Justice For All!
It is just a really bad mix.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 13:10
#69
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
it could be a bad mix, but i am pretty sure that theres no bass at all tho, but if i can find proof that there is no bass at all ill send it here, but so far there is none :(
ill take back the fact bit. although i am 80% certain about it tho.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 13:17
#70
buffalo-boy wrote:
There is bass on it just turned down. It has been admitted by various band members at various times. Read The Truth About Metallica, it has quotes in there.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 14:25
#71
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 14:31
#72
Pip (Philip Kelly) wrote:
Graeme55? wrote:
it could be a bad mix, but i am pretty sure that theres no bass at all tho, but if i can find proof that there is no bass at all ill send it here, but so far there is none :(
ill take back the fact bit. although i am 80% certain about it tho.
You’re wrong James and Lars co-produced the album so they put there insturments up really loud and because Newsted was only new in the band he didn’t want to cause any hassle plus they never took Newsted seriously that’s one of the reasons he left the band.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 14:49
#73
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
i have heard about that, but its what ive been hearing,
if they didnt take newstead seriously, why was he in the band for 15 years? funny that.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 15:22
#74
Charlie wrote:
Jason rocked. he was without a doubt my favourite member.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 15:39
#75
deadsetgav wrote:
Of course there is bass on that album… and if you know one end of one from the other then you can hear it on the album (if you listen really hard…)
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 17:16
#76
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
lol, i aint listened to the album in a while so i think ill start listening a bit more.
do u think maybe, just maybe, all the bass sounds might be coming from the guitars, im just saying, im just looking at all the possibilities here.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 17:42
#77
deadsetgav wrote:
I’ve been playing bass for 12 years so I kinda know what I am talking about and can kinda pick the sound out (plus when I was 16-17 I learned most of the songs off that album).
I have a fucking kick-arse stereo, Trust me ;)
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 17:51
#78
Divers (Simon) wrote:
If you’re talking about AJFA then i can hear the bass… the song “One” is a clear example where it is audible.
EDIT: thrash and music like that, has the bass lock in with the guitars so are never going to be playing anything too off from the main riffs, which wont help seperation.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 18:18
#79
deadsetgav wrote:
If you dont believe me listen again. The bass lines for the album are pretty boring, for most of the time it is playing the root note of the rhythm guitar… but in the few rare times where it doesn’t.. if you listen very carefully, you can hear it.
If you are listening to a compressed mp3 file through shitty pc speakers, you aint gonna be able to tell the difference between shit and chocolate… so stick the cd on.
If you still dont believe me, watch the ‘year and a half…’ or SKOM… you will see how long those anal bastards spend making a record - they are hardly likely to turn round at the last minute and go “hang on, on second thoughts, just release it without the bass tracks…”
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 18:22
#80
deadsetgav wrote:
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 18:23
#81
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
fair enough, im not saying u dont know what ur talkin about, ill have another listen.
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 19:29
#82
deadsetgav wrote:
Ah - ney-bother! it is there somewhere :)
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 20:47
#83
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
to have the bass volume lower than an old ladys tits, is pretty stupid, if it were louder then this record will be a lot heavier
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 21:19
#84
deadsetgav wrote:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the album was originally to be produced by Mike Clink (who did Appetite for Destruction) but at the last minute they changed back to Flemming Ramussen who did Master & Ride…
I think
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 21:31
#85
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
appetite for destruction is shit,
while were on the subject of bassists, i saw rob trujillo master orion, by hell, he was amazing, newstead who?
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 22:00
#86
deadsetgav wrote:
No way - Appetite is a classic!
Posted on Mon, 26 March 2007 at 22:16
#87
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
maybe for some people, but i think its shit
Posted on Tue, 27 March 2007 at 00:51
#88
deadsetgav wrote:
Far be it for me to point out that you are wrong, but… :D
Posted on Tue, 27 March 2007 at 08:19
#89
Charlie wrote:
deadsetgav wrote:
I’m sure I read somewhere that the album was originally to be produced by Mike Clink (who did Appetite for Destruction) but at the last minute they changed back to Flemming Ramussen who did Master & Ride…
I think
I heard James and Lars mixed and prouduced it, but they made such a mess of it, everyone wanting to be loudest, they got Flemming in to save what he could of it !!!
Posted on Tue, 27 March 2007 at 14:09
#90
Divers (Simon) wrote:
It was a bit of both as far as I remember, Mike Clink did start the sessions but I think there was a bit of a clash between producer and the two big egos. The only bits kept from these sessions were a few drum tracks as credited on the album. Another fact that Lars only admitted resently is that when he played drums on Dyers Eve he couldn’t keep up the pace so they slowed the tape down by 10bpm and he played to that and corrected the speed and pitch later.. the big gay!
Oh yeah..AFD by GNR rules!
Posted on Tue, 27 March 2007 at 14:21
