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Life on Mars CONTAINS SPOILERS!

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Started by Charlie

Anyone know how it ended ?

I never watched it - I just wanted to know :D

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 17:22

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#1

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Yeah, I know. :p

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 17:24

#2

Charlie wrote:

Then reveal :D

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 17:55

#3

mrs h wrote:

That would be cruel. One day you’ll want to watch it and the whole 2 series would have been ruined for you.

Anyway it’s too hard to explain!! :p

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:00

#4

Charlie wrote:

I dont care - i dont wanna watch it. Coma ? Alien Abduction ? time travel ? Insanity ? :D

I just wanna know out of curiosity :)

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:05

#5

mrs h wrote:

But the end would make no sense at all. It would be entirely meaningless to you and would ruin the whole thing when you do decide to watch it - as you most certainly will.

You could tell me what happens at the end of ‘2001 A Space Odyssey’ if you like though? Every time I have tried to watch it I fell asleep halfway through, and believe me I have tried. It must be the most boring film ever made - I even fell asleep when I first saw it at the pictures! :S

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:11

#6

Divers (Simon) wrote:

Squall wrote:

Anyone know how it ended ?

Some sort of credits i would imagine… i’m taking a stab at rolling ones.

If not then the butler did it, they always do…the bastards, why people still employ them is beyond me?

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:13

#7

mrs h wrote:

You’re the only person I know who does still have a butler! :p

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:14

#8

Divers (Simon) wrote:

Well old Giles is pretty much part of the furniture, we can’t get rid of him… no serious since his arthritus has got worse we use him as a coffee table and we are too tight to buy a new one.

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:17

#9

Charlie wrote:

mrs h wrote:

You could tell me what happens at the end of ‘2001 A Space Odyssey’ if you like though?

he disables the supercomputer then becomes the universe.

But painfully slowly.

Your turn now.

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:18

#10

mrs h wrote:

How rivetting :rolleyes: I knew it must be something really tedious. Thankyou :)

@Divers - isn’t he also your grandad?

edit: @Squall

He realises what the problem is, his strength is sorely tested and he is forced to make a rather unusual decision. But astonishingly quickly :)

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:20

#11

Divers (Simon) wrote:

No both my grandads died about 22 years ago… one is now a hatstand the other we attached wheels to and use as a hostess trolley.:)

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:22

#12

Charlie wrote:

2001 is EXCRUCIATING.

How people love it is beyond me - there is one scene where is just flying over canyons and they keep changing colours. I think it goes on for 45 minutes or so…

FUCKING RUBBISH.

In my Opinion. Kubrick has done ONE good film. The Shining.

His films are all the same. LOUD MUSIC LONG SHOTS PAINFULLY SLOW SECTIONS.

Tedious. Clock work Orange is Abysmal too.

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:22

#13

mrs h wrote:

I see. And is it true that your grandmother is a curtain pole?

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:24

#14

mrs h wrote:

LOL :D Sorry Squall - that was for Divers! :)

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:25

#15

Divers (Simon) wrote:

mrs h wrote:

I see. And is it true that your grandmother is a curtain pole?

Yes that is true.. but she complains about it what with her still being alive and in good health… old people hey, they just always have to have something to moan about:rolleyes:

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:27

#16

mrs h wrote:

That’s not true. Old people never moan, it’s just that young people don’t know how to do anything properly :mad:

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 18:31

#17

Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

Having stipulated that the programme would only run for two series, the writers had to write an ending bringing together all threads from the two series. The final episode centres on a plot by coal miners, who, backed by hardened criminals, and led by a psychopathic convicted cop killer, aim to steal a large quantity of money from a train. Frank Morgan, introduced in the previous episode as a Police Officer more akin to Sam’s style of policing, plays a central role. Early in the episode, Sam comes to believe that Frank is the surgeon in the future, who has been talking to him through the television, telephones and in his head. Sam is told that a tumour in his head is keeping him in a coma, and thus in 1973. Sam surmises that Gene Hunt is the manifestation of the tumour in his dream state because Morgan tells him that he must destroy Gene in order to complete the ‘operation’ and come home. Morgan asks Sam to collect evidence to convict Hunt of gross professional misconduct.

Sam therefore tapes a variety of instances of Hunt abusing his power, including the beating of a suspect and the planning of an illegal sting to stop the train robbery. Sam meets with Morgan, presenting his evidence, and Morgan tells him that he is, in fact, not from the future, that the year is 1973, and that they both are part of an operation codenamed M.A.R.S. (Metropolitan Accountability and Reconciliation Strategy), the purpose of which is to secure better policing for Manchester. Morgan tells Sam that he is undercover inside Hunt’s A-division in order to bring his illegal activities to an end. Sam does not believe him, but Morgan tells him that, after his accident, his mind closed down, and he now suffers from amnesia. He tells Sam that his name is really Williams and that he has replaced this with his undercover persona. He shows Sam the graves of his ‘mother’ and ‘father’ and then ‘Sam Tyler’, all of whom have been dead since the 19th century. Disillusioned, he then looks at his police file and sees the note on his record about his transfer, signed by Morgan.

Meanwhile, work is progressing on the sting and Sam is disowned by A-division when he tells them that he is working undercover for Morgan. However, he must take part in the sting for it to be a success. Sam and Ray go undercover as security guards on the train, with Chris and Annie posing as BR staff. Gene is undercover as the previously-arrested gang member. Sam takes with him the radio Morgan gave him to call in backup. At the worst possible moment, the radio starts to crackle and falls out of Sam’s pocket, where it is seen by the gang members. Gene slams the door revealing his true identity. The gang members open fire on the train trapping the team inside. Sam tries to use the radio to call in Morgan, but without success. He then leaves the train to try and find help. In a tunnel he meets Morgan, who tells him that he would be content to let Ray, Annie and Chris die in order to bring Hunt down. Sam argues, but then is called into a bright white light calling him home. As he leaves, Gene, Chris and Ray are hit by fire from the gang members. Annie screams for help.

He wakes in his hospital room where Morgan tells him he could not remove all of the tumour, but that it was benign. Sam leaves the hospital’s Hyde Ward, room 2612 - explaining the references to ‘Hyde 2612’, and returns to his life as a 21st-century DCI. However, he quickly finds that he cannot relate to any of his colleagues, and even accidentally cuts himself without knowing. Remembering Nelson’s earlier observation that “You know you’re alive when you can feel,” he goes up onto the roof of the station. After looking out over Manchester, he takes a running leap from the roof, and appears back in 1973, just in time to gun down the gang leader, saving his colleagues, but subsequently ending his life in the present day. In the pub afterwards, Sam makes up with Ray, Chris and Phyllis, and goes outside in search of Annie. He asks her “What do I do, Annie?” and she says “Stay” (echoing their conversation at the end of Episode 1 of the first season). As they finally kiss, Hunt drives up with details of a new case. As they drive off, Sam hears, over the radio, voices in his native time, saying they are losing him. He changes channel, and, as the car drives off, Hunt and Tyler bicker as usual. At the very end, children run past and the girl from Test Card F follows them onto the screen, stops, and looks directly into the camera, before reaching out with her hand and “switching off” the television. It is debatable whether or not this signifies Sam’s death, or simply the end of the television series (the writer Matthew Graham has indicated the latter in an interview,[37] although the former has widely been inferred).

Ultimately the viewer is left with ambiguity as to which to emotionally accept as real: Sam’s life in the present day or his life in 1973. Has he really reawoken, and then thrown himself off a high building, presumably to his death? Writer Matthew Graham suggests so.[37] Or, as actor John Simm suggests, might this too merely be another one of his coma dreams?[37]. Back in 1973 Sam can still hear the voices that suggest he is in a coma – but now he chooses to ignore them, possibly because he either thinks they’re symptoms of his delusions or because he doesn’t want to wake up. Either Sam concludes he had been suffering from delusions and paranoia brought on by amnesia and that his life in 1973 was real, or that he prefers to live in his imagination, or he doesn’t care which is real, only that he prefers 1973.

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 20:44

#18

Charlie wrote:

So in conclusion ? :D

Posted on Wed, 11 April 2007 at 22:20

#19

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

I thought the ending was pretty good, but I was as confused as ever at the fact that houses in 1973 had satellite dishes on the side of them :D

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 09:10

#20

mrs h wrote:

I thought it was great!

I didn’t notice the satellite dishes, but if he was back in a coma that would be a good way of showing it wouldn’t it? Given their previous faultless attention to detail…

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 09:14

#21

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Continuity has never been one of the BBC’s greatest assets though I suppose

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 09:20

#22

Cuchulain wrote:

Life on Mars…

…and police brutality in Camberwick Green: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRYQwOY0xw

Great series , although the end was a bit of a letdown imo.
Have the first series on DVD and will get second as well.

Rumours that there will be a spin off show with DI Gene Hunt , set in the 80s with a female from the present transported back into it.

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 12:49

#23

mrs h wrote:

I thought the end was disappointing at first, but I’ve come round to the idea that it was the best thing they could have done. But I do think they copped out a bit on the test card girl …

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 13:39

#24

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Why?

Posted on Thu, 12 April 2007 at 15:14

#25

mrs h wrote:

I just would have liked to know why it was that every time she showed up it was really scary - I thought she was going to turn out to be someone relevant in his life or something - like a little sister that died, maybe.

But probably that’s because I didn’t find her very believable as the test card girl. I remember the test card girl very well. She had wavier hair and a squarer jaw…

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:35

#26

mrs h wrote:

I just would have liked to know why it was that every time she showed up it was really scary - I thought she was going to turn out to be someone relevant in his life or something - like a little sister that died, maybe.

But probably that’s because I didn’t find her very believable as the test card girl. I remember the test card girl very well. She had wavier hair and a squarer jaw…

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:35

#27

mrs h wrote:

I just would have liked to know why it was that every time she showed up it was really scary - I thought she was going to turn out to be someone relevant in his life or something - like a little sister that died, maybe.

But probably that’s because I didn’t find her very believable as the test card girl. I remember the test card girl very well. She had wavier hair and a squarer jaw…

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:35

#28

mrs h wrote:

I just would have liked to know why it was that every time she showed up it was really scary - I thought she was going to turn out to be someone relevant in his life or something - like a little sister that died, maybe.

But probably that’s because I didn’t find her very believable as the test card girl. I remember the test card girl very well. She had wavier hair and a squarer jaw…

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:35

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mrs h wrote:

I just would have liked to know why it was that every time she showed up it was really scary - I thought she was going to turn out to be someone relevant in his life or something - like a little sister that died, maybe.

But probably that’s because I didn’t find her very believable as the test card girl. I remember the test card girl very well. She had wavier hair and a squarer jaw…

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:35

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mrs h wrote:

Jesus! Well I have no idea how that happened :S

*shakes in boots*

Sorry test-card girl, just kidding!

Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 07:48

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