#31
Dennis wrote:
and that, Squall, is the really tragic thing about Therapy?
- That they can release a great album full of attitude and edge but also TUNES and whilst it sells modestly to a loyal fanbase, Metallica shift bucket loads of copies of a stillborn piece of shite. :(
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 11:16
#32
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
1991 : Black album Vs. Nurse
:D
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 12:28
#33
Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:
nurse any day. Never got into the Black album, you can smell the money off that record.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 12:33
#34
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
But Im Sure we’d be happy for T? if their next album sold 20 million copies :D
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 13:43
#35
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
If they do it their own way - yes.
If they change their sound to please the masses - no.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 13:47
#36
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
Troublegum 2 then - cash in or fan pleasing ? discuss :p
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 14:31
#37
Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:
not gonna happen now is it? Its probably happend already and we never even noticed, HA was a bit Troublegummy. A man in his 40’s singin about his teenage years may not go down too well.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 16:18
#38
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
Jon Davis still does it :D
Mind you - Korn have ALWAYS sucked.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 17:41
#39
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
Squall wrote:
I cant even listen to OCFA a year on. It just sounds worse with each listen to me im afraid.
agreed. i was so disappointed with OCFA. to me it just “sounds” awful. i don’t dispute the facts that there are some cracking songs on it but the way it was produced makes it unlistenable to my ears. it’s a shame for me personally as i know i could have quite easily adored that album.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 19:07
#40
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
:rolleyes:
I´m not a damn producer (It seems that many of you are:)) so maby that´s why I dont still find anything strange or weak in the OCFA production. It sounds FUCKIN`EXCELLENT! Great beginning with Sprung and excellent ending with WTD. Between those songs are many songs that I include in their best songs. I promised myself to not take part in this disgustion anymore but I get really pissed off reading these comments about OCFA. What do people want: T? turning up to music like Metallica or what?! Some people REALLY aren´t satisfied with nothin`/anything:(
Yes, I hope they´ll bring out a rockin one album next year and I don´t want another IL pt2, TG pt2 etc. A different album like OCFA is would just be fine. That´s why I love the band so much, cause I never know what to expect! And they make such music which they love at the moment.PERKELE, SAATANA!
And yes, the last Metallica album was shit (couple of good songs) but Met is Met and T? is T? and we´re talking about T? here, right? Met is in the other forum:)
Think I get one ice cold Karhu now and cool down:D
I´s hotter than hell in sauna on the Fri evening and it seems to be hot here on the forum too, heh:D
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 19:31
#41
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
edit: I respect all opinions but if I´m not wrong, this was meant to be a home for all T? fans, maby I´m a wrong person here then when I´m preising the latest album. And we should all give our support to the worlds´s DEFFO BEST BAND! and I´m not licking anyone´s ass! those who know me, they know what I´m talkin´about and what I mean! Sorry my bad english, I´m a finnish guy who´s mainlanguage is finnish.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 19:56
#42
soul doubt (an) wrote:
I agree, Petri!
I’ve heard a million times (from the same people) that the production of OCFA sucks, please stop repeating yourself in every thread that mentions OCFA…
My only hope is that I’ll like it, I don’t care what direction they’ll go, as long as it rocks :)
So far they have never dissapointed me with any of their releases. I’m open for another surprice :)
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 20:02
#43
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
Thanxx An! There´s still hope here:) I won´t go away and hang myself:D
If Andy would sing Irish folksongs, I´d go and buy the record cause Andy´s voice…uuuhh,you know what I mean:)
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 20:12
#44
soul doubt (an) wrote:
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 20:14
#45
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
Squall wrote:
1991 : Black album Vs. Nurse
:D
WRONG!!! 1991 was babyteeth
1992 was pleasure death and nurse.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 21:35
#46
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
@ kossu: i am not doubting T? in the way they write songs. i know for a fact that most of those songs are fantastic. and no, i am not a producer of records or anything but i can tell when an album sounds like shit because of the production. as i said before, i could’ve adored OCFA but it’s just shit to listen to. the songs are good but it sounds terrible.
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 23:30
#47
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
sorry bud, but i agree
great songs= shit production
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 00:35
#48
Divers (Simon) wrote:
I’m hoping the new album is song based, with the band using some sort instrument and voice combination.
All in all whatever they choose to do will be fine with me… maybe they should produce it themselves and then use the money they would have spent on a producer to get someone decent to mix it.:)
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 02:45
#49
Fuzzeh (Jack) wrote:
I was thinking about OCFA and it’s production when washing my hair this morning as I do every morning (not think about OCFA)…
Thinking about it one year on with an (ahem) unbiased opinion I think I know where the problem lies for some of you guys. I some of you want the rawest of the raw production, what you see as the “NANE” and “Babyteeth” production. Some of you on the otherhand want T? to get cleaner and more mainstream (mainstream isn’t negative here) ala High Anxiety and S-detatched, and trouble gum (maybe).
I think the production of OCFA strangely tries to pamper to both needs and there lies the problem. To do both isn’t easy.
I hope that shed’s some light on the situation.
Oh and before I get any aggro I like OCFA (especially 2 tracks deluded son and walk through darkness… actually they are head and shoulders above the rest imho)… I also love all the other albums I mentioned.
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 09:08
#50
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
Man, you´re talking sense here! It´s hard to please everyone:) Like I said last nite, I respect everyones opinions, thank god this is a free world.
I´m not on crusade here or anything like that, I just love that album, it´s has already brought me lot´s of lovely memories from the past year and this going year and everytime I put in the player and turn the volume loud, I feel sooooo goood:)
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 09:40
#51
french headbanger wrote:
soul doubt wrote:
I’m open for another surprice :)
I’m ok with that. I don’t care the direction of the new album. I’m just waiting for it, hopping they’ll still rock during a long time
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 10:18
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Tue, 29 January 2008 at 10:45 (Corrected use of quotes)
#52
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
Hey, just listening to this album again recently (OCFA) and I love it even more so. And too be honest I couldn’t give a pickle about production values when a band such as T? have enough strength in the songs themselves already.
Having a different production gives, to me, every album that they’ve released - a whole new character.
Each to their own but this is what I feel about the subject :)
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 13:11
#53
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
But i’m not convinced by the songs either…:(
HA & NANE = Great.
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 14:23
#54
Lenny wrote:
My hope is that they may come and play a headline Irish show…
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 17:58
#55
Shade wrote:
Power to you Kossu. What people should realize though is that one man’s ‘poor’ production is another man’s good one. Maybe it’s just a spin to roll the album out like it did? Doesn’t work for everyone, but then that’s also T?’s theme, with the possible exception of their punk poprock heydey. Enjoy your bearbeer. :>
For the next album I have no specific hopes other than that the band themselves enjoy it and found new ways to reinvent themselves. And trippy lyrics maybe? A good cover that makes me get immersed into an exploratory stare? Liner notes with free LSD stamps?
Posted on Sun, 22 July 2007 at 08:19
#56
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
My favourite 3 therapy? albums all have black covers :D
Troublegum ( Hmm - more dark green but its black inside and on the back :D )
Suicide Pact
Nane.
Posted on Sun, 22 July 2007 at 09:59
#57
Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:
One cure fits all sounds fucking fine, stop complaining
I used to have a slight problem with the drum sound but ive grown to like it now
I agree with sould doubt and Lossu if t? release a new record it doesnt matter what they do it’ll be good.
I wouldnt mind something expiremental like infernal love or suicide pact, but looking at the situation i forsee it being another quite poppy album (though with t? they usually do different to what you excpect i find :) )
Posted on Mon, 23 July 2007 at 09:24
#58
Dennis wrote:
Fuzzeh wrote:
I think the production of OCFA strangely tries to pamper to both needs and there lies the problem.
Wow..now that is a very perceptive point - I never would have seen that myself, but I totally agree.
Personally, I love some of OCFA but there are just a few too many songs that I skip - all down to the songs not the production. I can put up with a duff production if the basic song underneath is good enough.
That’s not to say it’s a bad album by any means, just one of my less favourite T? albums.
Posted on Mon, 23 July 2007 at 09:51
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Tue, 29 January 2008 at 10:46 (Corrected use of quotes)
#59
fatboy wrote:
Squall wrote:
Troublegum 2 then - cash in or fan pleasing ? discuss :p
That’ll be fan pleasing rather than cashing in. T? have never made the same album twice.
Posted on Mon, 23 July 2007 at 12:18
#60
Punkwak (Tijn) wrote:
Posted on Mon, 23 July 2007 at 15:50
