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mrs h wrote:

The “divisive and enslaving human-made systems” don’t suggest anything to you about human nature then? All these people went out of their way to pursue power and wealth despite their nature and not because of it? men have always killed each other. Religion is yet another excuse, but it’s not a cause.

And I don’t mind sounding like a pompous arse, as long as I never agree with Brian Sewell.

Oh alright then. I’ll shut up if you do! :)

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 15:18

#32

mr self destruct wrote:

“men have always killed each other” - so it’s not humankind to blame, it’s mankind? ;)

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 15:34

#33

mrs h wrote:

I wasn’t blaming anyone, but since you mention it …

I think the fundamental difference is that you believe men to be benign, I don’t. I don’t think it’s possible to simply assert that division is caused by “human nature” until all the divisive and enslaving men have been stripped away. Then we can see how women really behave, what female nature really is. These men were not democratically voted into power by worldwide consensus, they were assisted by a few people (to further their own self-interests) and have somehow come to dominate the planet, even though they are encouraging people to destroy the planet and each other.

Tha works quite well, don’t you think? :p

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 17:15

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mr self destruct wrote:

Your feminist standpoint makes your tolerance/defence of religion even more puzzling. Strict gender roles, burkas and honour killings in Islam? Discouragement of contraception and the right to an abortion in Christianity? p

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 18:42

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mr self destruct wrote:

That was a :p

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 18:44

#36

mrs h wrote:

Strict gender roles, burkas and honour killings have nothing to do with Islam!!!! They may well be things you associate with Muslim countries but they have fuck all to do with Islam. And the Bible has terrible stuff in it, but Christians don’t just blindly and literally follow the text, otherwise disrespectful sons would be stoned to death by their families! You ar still using the word ‘religion’ to describe 10 different things and blaming the whole lot for the troubles in the world. I can’t understand why you think ‘religion’ is to blame when there are so many serious problems in the world, including terrorism, which come down to politics.

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 20:47

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mr self destruct wrote:

And all men aren’t bastards :p

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 20:58

#38

mrs h wrote:

Agreed :)

Posted on Sun, 9 March 2008 at 21:52

#39

mr self destruct wrote:

It was Zeitgeist day yesterday!

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/zdayevents.htm

Posted on Sun, 16 March 2008 at 12:17

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mrs h wrote:

and it’s St Patrick’s day today! :)

*banishes snakes from the WoM*

*lets Sammy back in again*

:)

Posted on Mon, 17 March 2008 at 21:42

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