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Slayer’s “Unholy Alliance” Tour Down-sized

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Started by Dennis (Dudley Less) in Other Bands & Artists

As I have mentioned elsewhere, Slayer’s Unholy Alliance tour at the end of the month has been moved to smaller venues.

My local one, the Birmingham NEC (recently rechristened naffly as “LG Arena”) has been moved to Wolverhampton Civic Hall.

For me personally and financially this is good news (£8 to park at the NEC? FACK ORF! + I can get the bus to Wolvo and have a few halves of shandy) but I’m interested as to what people think of the reasons behind this. I mean, naturally poor ticket sales of course, but Slayer have a good reputation as a live band, lots of fans and Metal is back in popularity again, so why don’t they attract large enough crowds?

Too many tours?
Too many DVDs?
Too expensive?
Trivium are so shit?

any thoughts?

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 11:19

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KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:

I have seen Slayer live twice in recent years and I have to say that I found their performances half assed in both instances.

They looked like a tired band going through the motions.

I was disappointed and would never bother go to see them live again to be honest.

I still find it hillarious having a stanch Christian singing wannabe satanic lyrics…

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 11:54

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

yeah the lyrics were always the worst thing about Slayer.

I think it’s daft of Araya to stand there and sing lyrics he doesn’t believe in, but then even Kerry King says that he doesn’t believe in all the satanic stuff and he only does it to get a rise out of the Christians.

Mind, when you make the kind of music that Slayer make, your choice of lyrical themes is severely limited!

I agree that Tom’s looking tired these days. I would say that I can’t see them doing it for much longer, but then how many other bands carry on way past their sell-by dates?

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 12:06

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g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

hmm the cardiff shows still in the cia, but i bet theyll downsize it from the 7000 set up to the 5000 set up with the curtain at the back closing off the back of the arena

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 12:33

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

Brum, Glasgow and Manchester are the downsized ones. Sorry, I didn’t make that clear, but I bet you’re right about the curtain.

Apparently, at the first London one they’re doing the whole of Reign In Blood (yawn) and at the second one it’ll be a totally different set which will be filmed for a DVD.

I only saw Slayer once, at Download in 2004, and I had only just started listening to them. I hadn’t even realised Lombardo was back in the band so I didn’t pay as much attention as I maybe would have.

I could happily live without hearing another stoooopid Hanneman or King solo, but I’m looking forward to hearing those riffs nice and loud.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 12:56

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buffalo-boy wrote:

I have to say im surprised by this - Christ Illusion isn’t their best album but it did quite well sales wise. Its probably because people are spending their money on Metallica who were, and always will, be better.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 12:56

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

…unless they meant the whole of RAINING Blood, but then it’s hardly a long song as it is…:D

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 12:58

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

Maybe people just aren’t spending their money full stop. Maybe it’s cos they ain’t got any!

With a bit of luck, ticker prices (in the UK at least - I can’t speak for anywhere else) will start to become more realistic and will stop racing up. It’s like watching a petrol pump display sometimes with the price of these things.

At the same time as CD’s have been driven down in price, the live arena has gone the other way.

Don’t know that I’d say Metallica were the superior band…of course it’s all down to personal preference, isn’t it? but.. I think Slayer are the better musicians, leaving aside the godawful solos (mind I’d say the same about Kirk’s solos…) But then there’s a time and place for Slayer and sometimes I just don’t want to hear them whereas Metallica are the more accessible band. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up for debate, I guess.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 13:06 in reply to an earlier post

Last edited by Teethgrinder on Wed, 29 October 2008 at 11:02 (Corrected use of quotes)

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ChrisDavies wrote:

KJC Dublin wrote:

They looked like a tired band going through the motions.

My exact thoughts , Both times i’ve seen them they were completley blown off the stage by Slipknot and then by Lamb of God even, they did really look like tired old men.

Really once you’ve paid £35 to see Slayer once you never really need to see them again.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 13:41 in reply to an earlier post

Last edited by Teethgrinder on Wed, 29 October 2008 at 11:03 (Corrected use of quotes)

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Gav wrote:

I think it was an ambitious choice to beging with - Slayer are long past filling a stadium like that on their own. The last tour they had slipknot to draw the numbers - Trivium don’t have that kinda pull.

Slayer are a good festival band - play their best stuff for 40 mins and then fuck off - I saw them play the NIA on the date where Pantera pulled out and 2 hrs of Slayer was boring as fuck

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 16:37

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Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

i’v had the misfortune of seeing slayer 3 times. the first time i went to see the was on purpose back around 98/99. thier fans are the worst really, still remember this meat head going out of his way to scream and give the finger to Fu Manchu who supported, the Fu guys just pointed and laughed at him.

saw them supporting Pantera in 2001 and at Oz fest in Ireland a few years back. Personally i can’t stand the fuckers or their fans for that matter. present company excluded of course, you know the fans i’m talking about

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 19:08

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

No I agree, some of the fans are just pathetic.

One of their DVDs has some footage of fans before/ after the gig and I must admit it put me off the band for a while cos they are such morons.

I am expecting a load of knuckle-heads that punch and elbow down the front, but then as a Motorhead fan I am used to seeing this minority of idiots who know fuck all of the band’s music but just come for a good scrum.

Wankers.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 20:12

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

Mind, I am 35 years old, so maybe I should be sitting down at a Daniel O’Donnell gig or something…!

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 20:12

#13

Squall wrote:

I hate oasis fans.

On the dvds theyre ALWAYS skin heads with cans of stella in hand with their tops off singing live forever BADLY out of tune, and when they see the camera they have to do SOMETHING and theyre so desperate to be on the dvd they just stand there and go ” fuckin…OASIS !!! ”

:p

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 20:46

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Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

Dennis wrote:

Mind, I am 35 years old, so maybe I should be sitting down at a Daniel O’Donnell gig or something…!

easy tiger, you’re nearly 35 not 65

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 20:55 in reply to an earlier post

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Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

you are 35. you knew that already

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 20:55

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fatboy wrote:

Slayer gigs being downsized?

Can’t say I’m surprised. I saw them in Cardiff two years ago, far from sold out and they looked bored and just didn’t want to be there. I had seen them two years before that supporting Slipknot and they blew the headliners off.

Funny what two years can do to a band.

Also, they’ve not released a decent album in years.

Roll on Priest in Feburary I say.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 22:14

#17

Squall wrote:

I hope next year I can finally go see Metallica.

Posted on Wed, 15 October 2008 at 22:40

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buffalo-boy wrote:

Slayer fans are nuts! At download this year there was a guitar hero contest and it was full of dudes who kept shouting for slayer and when someone did go for a slayer song they went mental! That was 1 moshpit i kept out of!

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:34

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Taunty Dan wrote:

Yeah, i recall being kkicked around the head by flying folk at a Slayer concert back in the early 90s. Nice people.

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:45

#20

Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

Ah a hard kick to the back of your head back in the 90’s…? Now it ALL makes sense…

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:51

#21

Taunty Dan wrote:

Lives in Dudley? Aaaahhh…that’ll explain it… :p

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:52

#22

Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

*looks as dumb as usual*

Gee, Lenny, I don’t get it…

:(

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:55

#23

Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

..tell me about the wabbits again, Lenny…?

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 10:55

#24

Squall wrote:

We’re gonna get a farm, with lots of animals and some alfalfa ( wtf is that anyway ? ) and a pettin zoo.

Not you though…youll be dead.

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 12:19

#25

RoyBatty (Steve) wrote:

Trust me. You don’t wanna know what alfalfa is. ;-)

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 14:51

#26

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

I thought george was the smart one not lenny

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 15:21

#27

Squall wrote:

I think you may be right.

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2008 at 15:29

#28

buffalo-boy wrote:

WTF??!!?

So er… back to Slayer then now, lads? I know what your talking about…honest!

Posted on Fri, 17 October 2008 at 07:13

#29

Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

Of Mice And Men - The John Steinbeck book.

They are right, though, it was Lenny that was the retarded one, not George. My bad.

But yeah, Slayer.

So, what do I have to look forward to, eh?

A pissed off band that has had to suffer the embarrassment of shifting to a much smaller venue when by all accounts they sound tired and past it anyways!

Yay!

Another 35 quid well spent by the Dave-meister!

Posted on Fri, 17 October 2008 at 11:00

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Taunty Dan wrote:

I reckon they’ll be brilliant at the civic, perfect sized venue for them i reckon. Or the wulfrun. Seriously!

Posted on Fri, 17 October 2008 at 11:03

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