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I have only ever used Windows or a Mac and am thinking of getting a 9-inch laptop purely for word processing and internet browsing. The laptop in question comes with Linux Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it? Is it easy to use/get used to? I’m a little afraid of going from XP (is it just as easy as XP?) but would like to learn a new OS and Ubuntu seems good.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 20:42

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msd wrote:

I would much rather use Linux but I daren’t try and install it.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 20:48

#2

Auto_Surgery (Andy) wrote:

Yeah it’s very easy to use - it comes with the best desktop platform available for Unix/Linux, hence it’s very popular. If you can use a MAC then your sorted and OSX etc is essentially unix underneath

Get yourself Open Office and your laughing - is it an EeePC your buying?

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 21:06

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EclipseDeLarge wrote:

It comes pre-installed on the laptop.
I found a youtube video earlier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c) but I wasn’t sure if this was a modded version to the standard one. It looks very swish..

The laptop I was thinking of getting was:
(http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk& … &s=dhs) for £280
it’s stats are:
BASE Intel ® Atom™ Processor N270 (1.60GHz, 533MHz, 512K cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM Ubuntu 8.04
HARDWARE SUPPORT 1Yr Limited Warranty - Collect & Return
WEBCAM Web Camera NOT included
COLOUR CHOICE Black
LCD 8.9” WSVGA (WLED) Truelife Display
MEMORY 1024MB 533MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM
HARD DRIVE 8GB Solid State Hard Drive
GRAPHICS CARD Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator 500
WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY Dell 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Mini-Card
PRIMARY BATTERY 4-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (32 WHr)

Or I can get (http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/484318/ACER-AOA150-BB/tab/advice) for £280 and it’s stats are:
Brand ACER
Screen size 8.9 inches
Processor Intel Atom
Processor model number N270
Processor speed 1.60
Processor bus 533
Processor cache 512 kB
Memory (RAM) 1024 MB
Storage (hard drive) 120 GB

So they’re almost exactly the same apart from the Ubuntu comes with a MUCH smaller but Solid State hard drive (I don’t need much space though since it’s just word processing) but I might bump it up to a 16gig for a little extra. I’m basically wondering if it’s worth getting Ubuntu if the other is the same price, larger hard drive and an OS I recognise.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 21:17

#4

EclipseDeLarge wrote:

@AutoSurgery: Good call on the open office reccomendation. I don’t know what an EePC is however..?

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 21:18

#5

Ronald wrote:

Ok, sometimes I am a right numpty: I opened this topic because I thought the title would refer to some heavy metal band…

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 21:36

#6

Squall wrote:

OSX is the shit. Vista IS shit. I never want a PC. I’m going to get an iMac as soon as i can…

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 22:02

#7

EclipseDeLarge wrote:

Any information on Ubuntu though, Charlie?

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 22:19

#8

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

I love ubuntu. I cant use it though as it doesnt have support for my wireless adapter.

MrSD Ubuntu is the easiest operating system to install, before install it loads up a live enviroment so you can play around with the os before installing it, it then has an install wizard, its far easier to install than windows. and theyll even send you a few copies for free on cd, beats downloading a 700mb torrent, it comes with alot of key open source software thats just as good as its premium counterparts on windows.

OSX/Macs are shit for me, I mean you can barely make any changes to it once youve bought it, so much for a company that presents itself as ‘forward thinking’ then again I built and upgrade my pc myself so am bound to have this view. OSX crashes miles more than windows xp (in my experience) it just handles the crashes better most the time.

I despise vista, xp is alright.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 22:23

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Erik Schepers (Erik Schepers) wrote:

Viirkokka wrote:

So they’re almost exactly the same apart from the Ubuntu comes with a MUCH smaller but Solid State hard drive (I don’t need much space though since it’s just word processing) but I might bump it up to a 16gig for a little extra. I’m basically wondering if it’s worth getting Ubuntu if the other is the same price, larger hard drive and an OS I recognise.

I’d go with the Acer - you may not need all that disk space, but at this moment I’d choose a harddisk over solid state (or any sort of flash memory). The price per GB is significantly lower, and flash based solid state disks suffer from limited write cycles (which is even worse when using multi-level cells as opposed to single-level cells), and repeated writes to the same area of the disk (such as a swap file) will wear that area out quite quickly. To fix such problems flash based systems incorporate something called wear levelling but that simply delays the inevitable.

And since Ubuntu is free you can always ditch whatever OS the Acer comes with and simply download and install Ubuntu instead.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2009 at 23:31 in reply to an earlier post

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

I love ubuntu. I cant use it though as it doesnt have support for my wireless adapter.

That is something you need to watch out for with Ubuntu.
I had a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot system set up a while back, but that proved to be a hassle (mostly due to my limited Linux knowledge). If I had a second pc, I’d definitely give Ubuntu another shot, though.

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 11:49 in reply to an earlier post

#11

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

Im tempted to do a dual boot and use ubuntu for video editing, beats windows crashing every 5 seconds.

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 17:04

#12

EclipseDeLarge wrote:

mm.. I always wonder what people are doing to their pc’s to be complaining that it crashes so much.

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 18:15

#13

msd wrote:

I haven’t minded using Vista actually…it’s hardly crashed at all in a year

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 18:29

#14

Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

so far so good for me

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 18:44

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g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

Viirkokka wrote:

mm.. I always wonder what people are doing to their pc’s to be complaining that it crashes so much.

Rendering huge video files for a start, I mean i have 2 gig of ram and a 3.0 ghz pentium 4 cpu yet i still get lots of shit from windows.

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 20:37 in reply to an earlier post

#16

EclipseDeLarge wrote:

fair dooes, get a ram upgrade? you could bump it up to 4gig for not a lot, try crucial

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 21:30

#17

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

not when you can only use pc3200 ram which costs a bomb nowadays.

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 21:45

#18

Auto_Surgery (Andy) wrote:

EeePC is essentially a laptop with a ‘solid state’ drive rather than a traditional Hard Drive - I only asked as you mentioned it came with Ubuntu, due to the expense of Solid State memory Unix is generally the OS of choice with regards to the technology as it doesn’t require much space to install.

As it’s still fairly new, large solid state disks are still expensive - this is why Unix is chosen here as you can install an OS for a few hundred MB, where as Windows requires a few GB. I’m not sure how true this is but I’ve heard solid state drives draw more power, hence in a device like a laptop the battery may not last very long (they even require power once the laptop is switched off) - plus they wear out apparently after they’ve been read/written although this could take a few years…

You can download Ubuntu, burn the ISO file to DVD then boot any computer from the DVD and run the OS without the need to install it as you get an option to run from CD/DVD (doesn’t touch your hard disk), so you could try it for yourself before you take the plunge and buy the laptop:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

Posted on Thu, 12 February 2009 at 22:17

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