Wall of Mouths

I’m not quite sure what your point is (I’m guessing English isn’t your first language as well).

I’m not sure which pisses you off the most - that the band have had a song played on the radio or that soldiers are being ‘entertained’… Regardless of feelings towards the war, i think taking it out on the soldiers is a bit unfair, taking it out on the band is even worse.
Either way you kinda sound like an asshole.

I think this is a situation close to Andy’s heart as his grandfather died in WWII (buried in Gent, I believe), so be careful before accusing the band of being pro-war. They have continually berated Bush & Blair for their war, but at the same time have sympathy for the common soldiers used as pawns.

It obviously ain’t as clear-cut as you think, zero nero. I raised an eyebrow when I saw they had recorded a session for BFR, but it’s their own business and I’m not gonna start preaching on a message board about it.

I have a great deal of respect for soldiers, i dont have respect for the cause or reason their in some of this conflict but i cant fault the armed force members in any way. i know plenty of people who have left home to join the army and raf and a few people considering it and i consider them some of my best mates. your entitled to your opinion mate but sometimes when you have an opinion thats going to piss people off its best inside your head.

and to be honest if your going to be pissed off at a band for appearing on a radio show on the armed forces radio station you probably need to sort your priorities out. you should also stop watching most tv (if your a tv watcher) as alot of programs are donated to armed forces tv channel for free.

deadsetgav wrote:

I’m not quite sure what your point is (I’m guessing English isn’t your first language as well).

I’m not sure which pisses you off the most - that the band have had a song played on the radio or that soldiers are being ‘entertained’… Regardless of feelings towards the war, i think taking it out on the soldiers is a bit unfair, taking it out on the band is even worse.
Either way you kinda sound like an asshole.

This.
I read this while drunk and thought I’d come back to it, and yet made no sense. I don’t think the band made the radio station play it or whatever is being said here:s

back ronald. i havnt heard the interview, so i could be off track. But i dont respect ‘artists’ that go on tours for troops, go on radio stations for troops etc, especially when those troops do the bidding of governments that are imperialist and war mongers. over 500,000 civilians dead in iraq. a mess created by the US and the UK. Its amazing how people can pass such a situation off as ‘well i dont agree but i still support the troops’!?? support your troops and demand them home if u really care. and as for the soldiers, just doing their job…well i wouldnt and a few have had the balls and heart to say no. what was the song…’not in any name’…hmmm?? but like i said i havnt heard the interview so i hope i’m wrong

oh my mistake - quote ” stuff their fucking armies”, not “sod”

think about this one…

i’m a believer or fundamentalist that truly believes its the right thing to do to plant ied’s and ‘kill the infidel’ etc etc
or
i’m professional soldier who doesnt really care about the wrongs or rights, but fights whoever i’m asked to fight because its my job and i’m being paid…

which is wrong???

Both and its only media conditioning that allows us believe, ‘our boys are doing their best’, and ‘them other fella’s are savages’. (and yes the taliban are savages as are the british troops who forced iraqi men to jump to their deaths from a bridge in basra )
people very quickly in this world need to take responsibilities for their actions, Bush and Blair didn’t lead the charge over the top, so this ‘the troops are only pawns’ business doesn’t wash. The ‘volunteer’ is the murderer and the employee is the hero!??! Its all bloody murder.
You only get one life, make your own mind up and don’t end up in the murder machine, think of ww1 and the millions who went over the top because of two fucking uncles who had a spat and wanted to sort it out on the world stage, (and before u start getting into ww1 history, i know a bit about it…it was a pointless bloodbath)

Judge me and my posts by your own standards, but as u can probably guess i feel a tad strongly bout this, if i served in 2003 I would have put a bullet in Blair before i would have gone to Iraq. Maximum respect to the troops who objected and in many cases suffered with court martial and dishonorable discharge. That’s real bravery, but you don’t hear much about them do you?????

hang on, i despise the big four record companies and their agenda, but i dont hold it against the artists and bands signed to them, read that statement there and compare it to the armed forces and you get how i feel.

even if i hated soliders i still wouldnt hold it against the band, i believe in the freedom to think do and say whatever you want, if you dont like it fine, dont like it, but dont kick off at the band.

actually i just contradacted myself, go nuts, kick off at whatever, your entitled to your free speech, and i think if you wanna keep going on looking (in my opinion) foolish then go for it.

|~Gimme Back My Brainsaw~| wrote:

hang on, i despise the big four record companies and their agenda, but i dont hold it against the artists and bands signed to them, read that statement there and compare it to the armed forces and you get how i feel.

even if i hated soliders i still wouldnt hold it against the band, i believe in the freedom to think do and say whatever you want, if you dont like it fine, dont like it, but dont kick off at the band.

actually i just contradacted myself, go nuts, kick off at whatever, your entitled to your free speech, and i think if you wanna keep going on looking (in my opinion) foolish then go for it.

Fuck. I’m American. My best friend’s son died in Iraq.

What this has to do with T?’s music is way-Gee I’ve got balls since I’m online-beyond-me.

FUCK

I just didnt understand the post…moving on…

doesn’t matter where ur from…and what a pointless death…one of over 500,000 (thats including iraqis as much as the bbc and US tv etc likes to ignore them…should you not be angry? Fuck yes u should but with who? did someone put a gun to his head and demand he go there?? for the people that live there they didnt have a choice. They suffered the equivilent of 125 9/11’s
and i’d have this discussion in front of the world, dont give a shit bout online, paint it in whatever patriotic, flag wavingcolours u want. The losers are the civilians, and u’ll never hear they’re stories or have rememberance days for them.
Listen if therapy? want to play for the troops and by extension they’re actions and the actions of the UK US government, that’s ultimately their business ( and i count do a session for the radio station in question as playing for them). My interest is do i ever buy anything in future by the band. and by therapy? providing a message forum i reserve my right to make it know that i was surprised by their decision. Let them go at it, for those of you that agree, whoopie. I don’t, this is a message board, its not unknown on the internet for ppl to express views that sometimes causes disagreements. so yeah FUCK…??

it is the very worst thing to ignore and not dicuss. On this day above all! its vital that the madness of these war is discussed. Its not politics its humanity, cause and effect!
i’m not preaching hate. just personal self determination and respect

Dude.

Don’t think that those of us that hate this war don’t understand the total loss of life. And that we haven’t voted accordingly. (Thrice for myself)

But making light of my friend’s loss is pointless. As is War.

Don’t think that others don’t think exactly the way you do.

But also, with all respect, don’t think you know everything.

DUDE , what point was their in your friends son dying? u tell me that and i’ll shut up