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Started by mfgeorge in General Therapy? Topics

before the days of the ‘wall of mouths & teethgrinder.com’ the therapy? mailing list used to have tons of people on it emailing each other everyday… i used to get at least 10 messages a day, now you’re lucky if you see 10 a year (right alexk?)…

anyway, years ago on this mailing list tons of people put there video collections together and we ended up with 2 tapes with a material… interviews, concerts, and videos… i think it had all the videos up to and including infernal love, but it was missing 1 or 2… anyway, one person made all the videos and we sent blank tapes and shipping money to that person to record copies for everyone…

here’s what happened: everyone on the North American format got their copies, but the person who was supposed to make the PAL versions took off with them… yes, for once North American T? fans got something everyone else didn’t, but the person that didn’t make copies took off with everyone’s money as well, so to this day no one got copies besides North American’s (to my knowledge)…

anyway, i still have my copy… i think it would be a really good idea if some one wanted to try to do this again, but adding the new stuff to it as well… problem is that it needs to be some one that:
A. is trustworthy
B. has time to do it
C. knows how to edit
D. can make video copies
E. can make both PAL & NTSC copies

anyway, this would be a HUGE undertaking not only for the person doing the copying, but also the people willing to send in their videos in order to have a complete collection… i think it may be to big to go forward, but i just thought i should throw out the idea anyway, seeing as a lot of people seems to have never seen many of the videos…

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 15:25

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Alan wrote:

Matt, I’ve done several videos for people around Europe, but alas, I can’t do NTSC copies. As far as I know I have all the videos (apart from Meat Abstract (which I have clips of) and the second version of Stories (of which I also have clips of)). I would be willing to do copies for people, if someone else can turn them to NTSC? I don’t know, just thought I’d mention it.
By the way, most of my videos are good but some are shit - eg, banned version of Isolation (is now b&w it’s been copied so much), Trigger Inside (very low sound), Turn (snowy picture, jumpy sound). Do you have better versions? What else is on that video you’ve got?

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 15:45

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mfgeorge wrote:

honestly, i haven’t watched them in a while… i’ll do so tonight and tomorrow night and give a full report…

as for making PAL to NTSC copies, i know that video transfering places can do it, but it costs money… i we went that route, then we’d have to think of a way to add that additional cost in…

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 16:15

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mfgeorge wrote:

also, in order from earlist to latest, what videos do t? have? (including banned and/or 2nd versions)…

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 16:17

#4

Body Bag Girl Iris wrote:

Rene is making the new OFFICIAL Therapy? website, maybe he can put some old video’s on there?

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 16:59

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Brendon wrote:

I’m definitely interested in a copy of these tapes. I have a tape of a concert in Texas that I’d be willing to add in as well.

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 19:32

#6

innocentx wrote:

i’ll send you a copy . i keep forgetting to

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 20:42

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Body Bag Girl Iris wrote:

I’ve got loads of Therapy? tapes (I think most are the same as Alan since we had the same one to trade with)… but I don’t have 2 video’s to copy them.

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 22:54

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Jaymz wrote:

OK, I’m interested too. I never saw any of the old clip. They don’t play them much at the musicstations over here…

Posted on Wed, 7 November 2001 at 23:24

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Alan wrote:

Okay, let me see what I have…
Meat Abstract (clips), Nausea, Teethgrinder, Screamager, Turn, Opal Mantra, Nowhere, Die Laughing, Trigger Inside, Isolation (versions 1 & 2), Stories (version 1, clips of version 2), Loose, Loose(Photek), Diane, Church of Noise, Lonely Cryin Only, Little Tongues First, Bad Karma Follows You Around. I also have the making of ‘Screamager’ and the making of ‘Church of Noise’. As for video gigs, I have over 40. I’ve also piles of clips from TV.
Email for a list if you like, or just take a look at the link in my profile (I did that page in 2 minutes so it’s shit, and hard to read).
I’m not interested in making money for from stuff - if anyone has anything I don’t have, I’m interested. Even if you can’t make copies yourself, if you send your tapes to me, I’ll work something out!

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 10:00

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Michael wrote:

If anyone has any doubts: Alan is very reliable, I traded with him, and nothing went wrong. So don’t worry about a thing (same goes for any of the WOM members that I’ve traded with…)

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 12:03

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mfgeorge wrote:

after 4 hours of viewing my 2 tapes last night, this is what’s on them:

TAPE 1
- Live in Dublin: St. Patricks Day (96? from MTV europe) 7 songs
- Die Laughing Video
- Teethgrinder Video
- Live @ Mega Music Rock Experience (94?) 2 songs
- Andy and Micheal hosting MTV show and showing their videos, which include: Nowhere, Loose (remix), Stories, Die Laughing, Opal Mantra, Screamager, Loose
- Live @ Brixton Academy (94?) 8 songs

TAPE 2
- Diane Video
- T? on some show (like top of pops, but i don’t think it’s it.. i don’t know, i’m from Canada!!!) (95?) 2 songs
- MTV news clip of Fyfe leaving band
- Live @ Mega Music Rock Experience (94?) 1 song, plus interview with Micheal and Fyfe after… (this is part of the TAPE 1 Mega Music…)
- Teethgrinder video (again)
- Live in Germany ‘94 2 songs Interview after show with Michael and Andy
- Live in MTV studio ‘95 2 songs
- info/interviews with Band sliced in with CUT videos of Isolation, Die Lauging & Nowhere
- Interview with boys at MTV video music awards, followed by their preformance
- Documentery on T? & Belfast called ‘End of the Tunnel’ Show in Dutch (i think) except when Andy being interviewed. Goes into live show @ pinkpop 6 songs interview with Michael after
- MTV interview with Michael and Andy about Infernal Love
- Nausea video
- T? interview on 120minutes, MTV America which includes interview with bands, Screamager video & Opal Mantra live in studio

so that’s what’s on the tapes. NO videos for both Isolations, Meat Abstract, Turn, Trigger Inside, Church of Noise, Lonely Crying, Little Tounges, Bad Karma, or Rehab (Andy w/ Manchild)… seems that if we want to put all the T? videos on one Tape for everyone as I suggested then we’d have to look to Alan as our resource… only problem with that is that he’s videos are in PAL, while mine are in NTSC… also, the quality of my videos are ok, but not great… I’d say B+ or A-, which is still pretty good… the live clips/interviews on my tapes are pretty good, but nothing better then most other live videos, etc.

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 13:00

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nice guys wrote:

All of that sounds so fantastic!!!

If I only had something to trade…
I really should have started collecting earlier!

Only two or three concerts that everyone might have (Bizarre)!

St.

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 14:28

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Fat Punk Doris wrote:

After being away for a bit it’s nice to see a good post, this has gotta be one of the best ideas in ages. Nice to know there are decent people still around…

Greetings to Iris

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 18:51

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Brendon wrote:

I think if we just copy what we all have and send it to one person, that person should be able to put together a pretty good compilation. I’ll bet we have 3-4 tapes worth of material between everyone and it would be nice to combine it all and send a copy to everyone.

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 19:41

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Billy Blue wrote:

That all sounds awesome! I’ve got a great Therapy? collection going but nothing on video at all.

I’d kill to have a copy of the compliation you are thinking of making, but I don’t think I have anything to trade (other than my 96 fan club CD but I’m keeping that!).

If I don’t think I have anything to trade are you guys saying people like me could just send you a video for a copy. I know you said you don’t want to make any money but I’d be more than happy to contribute to the running costs.

Let me know?

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 21:16

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mfgeorge wrote:

i think right now we are in the preliminary stages of planing a video… Alan seems to have every video except Meat Abstract, 2nd Version of Stories, Rehab (Andy w/ Manchild), and Gimme Back My Brain… problem is is that his collection is in PAL… DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THESE VIDEOS? WHAT FORMAT ARE THEY?

so far the only thing i can think of doing is the following: take the videos that Alan has that I don’t, get him to make a copy for me, then I’ll transfer that to NTSC and put all the videos together… that way I will have all the videos in NTSC format for anyone in North America… For everywhere else my guess is that Alan can make copies for trades/2for1’s…

as for the extra stuff I have on my videos, I could make a copy of it and send it to Alan, and if he wants to get it changed to PAL he can… all this will of course end up costing myself and Alan some money, but we could get people add a couple of bucks to each order so that we can make our money back…

this is the only idea I have in my head right now… i’m not crazy about it, but it could work… DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ON HOW THIS COULD WORK?

i also like the idea of T? having all their videos on their new site… that way it wouldn’t cost anyone anything and we wouldn’t have a problem with the 2 formats… Rene, can you look into this please???

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 21:45

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satanslittlehelper wrote:

The same goes for me. i’ve only seen a few videos and i would love to see all this great stuff, but dont have anything to offer. It would be REALY cool if you guys did this for everone! I have two players so maybe i could do some copies for people in the uk

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 21:52

#18

Body Bag Girl Iris wrote:

I’ve got the promo video of Manchild - Rehab also in PAL…

Greetings to FPD!!!

Posted on Thu, 8 November 2001 at 23:34

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innocentx wrote:

you can download most of therapy?’s videos at kazaa..i saw most of them on there

Posted on Fri, 9 November 2001 at 03:00

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Billy Blue wrote:

Well I’m really interested in getting all of this stuff down on to videos for everyone (especially PAL coz i’m in the UK!).

The only way I can think of helping is by copying them as I have 4 video players in the house. I guess it will take a bit of organising, but that’ll have to be sorted initially by the people with the actual videos.

Go on, do it, you know you want to!!!

Posted on Wed, 14 November 2001 at 00:01

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