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two questions. maybe you folks can help.

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Started by antiamericanlegion (Guest)

that’s my question…any decent answers welcome.

Posted on Fri, 31 March 2000 at 22:53

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Dirty Sanchez (Guest) wrote:

James Joyce was an Irish author. I guess he was fucking with the sister by convincing her green was the only colour on the atlas — i.e. Irish nationalism.

or something

Posted on Sat, 1 April 2000 at 01:13

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antiamericanlegion (Guest) wrote:

ok…

..?

Posted on Sat, 1 April 2000 at 02:10

#3

Brendon (Guest) wrote:

James Joyce was an Irish author, responsible for works like Ulysees and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Of course, he lived in France, and died in the 30’s, so unless Andy’s sister is an old French whore, he didn’t touch her.

Brendon aka Mr. Scholar

Posted on Sat, 1 April 2000 at 03:55

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Mousie (Guest) wrote:

I don’t know what the connection between THE James Joyce and Andy’s sister is, but there used to be a lad called James Joyce that was fucking my sister. No shit. So maybe it’s as simple as that. I used to always get an extra kick out of the song because of that.

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2000 at 17:44

#5

Razorblade (Guest) wrote:

If it helps, my take on Potato Junkie has always been that it was a rant against Irish Extremism. Hence some of the references - 1690/green being the only colour on the atlas and the songs title.

However since I didn’t write the song and I’m not Irish I am prepared to be corrected on this.

One thing I was wondering is that rather than using Motherfucker, a common term of abuse in Hindi is Sisterfucker. Does Galic use the same term and is that why it crops up in this song.

Rz

Posted on Mon, 3 April 2000 at 15:20

#6

CUMGUZZLINBITCH (Guest) wrote:

james joyce isn’t fucking Andy’s sister he’s fucking me and my son Grant Hart.

Posted on Fri, 7 April 2000 at 11:43

#7

Power Chord Andy (Guest) wrote:

potato junkie IS a rant against the ridiculousness of irish extremism, 1690 is when the protestant celebrated battle of the boyne was, yes thats over 300 years ago, and green being the only colour on the atlas is a reference to say that the other side of the northern irish silliness are wankers as well, and i should know coz im northern irish and the place is full of stupid cunts, the whole lot of em

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2000 at 09:51

#8

The apostle (Guest) wrote:

I am from Northern Ireland I i am not a silly wanker!

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2000 at 11:05

#9

johnnyboy (Guest) wrote:

wow mousie
that’s a little disturbing
do you really get a kick when someone is fuckin your sister?
go away man!
trying hard to understand some song’s lyrics is a pointless business

Posted on Fri, 5 May 2000 at 14:37

#10

johnnyboy (Guest) wrote:

most songs mean something but there are always some lines
that don’t mean anything except finding somethin that sounds good
or making a good rhyme or PROVOKING DISCUSSION

Posted on Fri, 5 May 2000 at 14:41

#11

deekoi (Guest) wrote:

ever wondered how amusing Potatoe Junkie would sound sung in a cornish accent?
Oim biddr
Oim twestd
James Joyce be fuk’n moi sistr. R!

Posted on Sat, 6 May 2000 at 12:32

#12

deekoi (Guest) wrote:

Surely the fact it’s called POTATOE Junkie might be a clue to it being about Ireland?

Posted on Sat, 6 May 2000 at 12:33

#13

johnnyboy (Guest) wrote:

the fact it’s called potato junkie could be a hint it’s about germany

Posted on Tue, 9 May 2000 at 13:20

#14

tony montana wrote:

Title: two questions. maybe you folks can help. (merged)

sorry about the test. anyway…

i like therapy?.
i like james joyce.
i want to know what potato junkie is supposed to ‘say.’ what’s the message, the point, or whatever you want to call it. why couldn’t it have been ‘samuel beckett is fucking my sister.’ i’m not doing an interpretative study of t? music or anything; it’s just always bugged me.

also. anybody know any other bands (the less famous the better) that sound like the t? of babyteeth/pleasure death. i want big guitar noise with techno beats and attitude. and don’t tell me the fucking prodigy.

thanks. i like the message board a lot.

Posted on Fri, 1 February 2002 at 16:22

#15

Brendon wrote:

Try Manchild. Kind of the dark-core house sound of Prodigy without the MTV glamor.

Posted on Fri, 1 February 2002 at 17:44

#16

say10 wrote:

Atari Teenage Riot.

Posted on Fri, 1 February 2002 at 19:25

#17

trigger wrote:

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Posted on Fri, 1 February 2002 at 19:55

#18

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Hia Tony

Good question. I’ve been wading through piles of old interviews (it’s really bugging me now!) but the only thing I could find about Potato Junkie is as follows:

(Andy) ‘There’s a line in ‘Potato Junkie’ - which is the only political thing I’ve ever written - and it goes ‘How can I remember 1690? I was born in 1965’.

1690 was the date of the Loyalist victory over the Catholics. Why are people still clinging to this old bollocks? It means nothing anymore and it’s time people woke up to these kind of things. I hate seeing people, their culture and their opinions and their personalities strangled by their upbringing. It’s such horrible, dated bollocks.

It’s such a small country and there’s so much hatred there. It needs to be re-educated. There are too many people clinging to these old cultures.

It would be so easy for Therapy? to write a song like ‘Across The Barricades’ and I think that’s something the media expect. They want a ‘Free Nelson Mandela’ for Ireland and I couldn’t do that. I don’t really believe in it, cos the whole problem is too complex. And sadly, I don’t think there’ll be any kind of a solution before the end of my lifetime’.

(Melody Maker, 11th June 1994)

I don’t know much about James Joyce, but he was raised as a Roman Catholic. Another line in the song is ‘This business is pointless, to think that green is the only colour on the atlas.’ Green being a reference to Catholicism I assume.

I think the line in question is probably there for shock value more than anything else. I suppose it could be saying that the past is still affecting everybody in Northern Ireland on a personal level (James Joyce being a historical figure and the sister representing the modern day - it being his ‘sister’ indicating familiarity).

I wouldn’t like to venture anything further as I don’t know enough about Andy’s politics. I think I once read that he was Catholic and Michael was Protestant but that could have been the other way round, which doesn’t really help!

Anyone else want to have a go?

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 05:57

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irishlady wrote:

as far as i know michael is a catholic and andy is a protestant.
andy told it on some festival to the crowd… that they are best friends anyway!!

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 11:39

#20

Christian wrote:

As far is I know, James Joyce is an Irish Writer. Andy said in an interview, that ’ it’s okay if we make a little fun out of him since everyone had to mess with him in school’. Something like that.
So I guess it’s really an irish-thing.

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 12:16

#21

rocking roxy wrote:

three famous writings from James joyce are:

~Ulysses (probably the most famous one, but very diffecult to read)
~the dubliners
~Finnegan’s Wake

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 12:30

#22

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

A lot of Joyce’s books like Dubliners and Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man were written around the time of the Easter Rising of Republicans in Dublin (1916). Therefore a lot of the themes in them ask questions of what it means to be an Irish national etc. Andy seems to be saying ‘fuck that’.

1690 was the date of the Battle of the Boyne, and the motto of the Orange Order is ‘Remember 1690’ but how can you remember something that happened over 300 years ago?

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 14:49

#23

never_say_never wrote:

I think the title ‘Potato Junkie’ could also be a reference to how Ireland is stuck in its past and the days of potato famines and sectarian issues. Being a potato junkie is possibly some kind of analogy to being too closely linked to past events.

Posted on Sat, 2 February 2002 at 20:06

#24

barnabus11 wrote:

If u lived in Ireland, or Northern Ireland u’d know, but in fairness…

Posted on Sun, 3 February 2002 at 03:55

#25

barnabus11 wrote:

Sorry, but we dont need to be reeducated, there are, as in any country, a lot of idiots

Posted on Sun, 3 February 2002 at 04:01

#26

oscott wrote:

Wouldn’t it be possible that ‘Potato Junkie’ should be seen as ‘Poeto Junkie’? This could be a man who wrappes the girls around his finger, using sweet words, maybe as it James Joyce did in his writings.I am really not sure, ‘cause I don’t know anything about him.

Posted on Sun, 3 February 2002 at 20:13

#27

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Hi Barnabus11

The thing about being re-educated wasn’t what I was saying, it was what Andy said.

Sorry if we misunderstood each other here, I wouldn’t suppose to really know much about the troubles in NI at all, let alone lecture on solving them!

Posted on Mon, 4 February 2002 at 02:57

#28

Unbeliever wrote:

http://www.dotmusic.com/live/webchats/therapy/transcript.asp

Here is a question I asked about Potato Junkie in a webchat with Micheal and Graham once.

Posted on Tue, 5 February 2002 at 17:15

#29

Christian wrote:

‘Roni from Israel asks: Have you been visiting any therapy? pages on the net?’

‘Michael: We do. We know what you’re saying about us. And Ronald in Holland. We know about your bootlegs’

Lol!

Posted on Tue, 5 February 2002 at 17:37

#30

barnabus11 wrote:

no probs,

Posted on Wed, 6 February 2002 at 19:37

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