#61
Alan wrote:
Title: Italy
… too much hair, too little talent! What was Vieri up to with that last minute miss??? Even makes Ireland’s Kevin Kilbanes miss after Ian Hartes penalty miss against Spain look good! …and Kevin Kilbane is baaad - he collected ten tokens from Kelloggs to join the Ireland squad!
Posted on Tue, 18 June 2002 at 16:49
#62
opalmantra wrote:
Oh dear. This game is stupid.
How CAN you win? I really feel for Italy. They have been fucked. And I mean FUCKED!. Can Italy host the next World Cup? Just to settle things. (insert Vommit)
Posted on Tue, 18 June 2002 at 19:18
#63
Michael wrote:
Title: …And justice for all!
Yeeha!! What a game!! Most exciting game I’ve seen so far, with the better team winning! I’m sorry, but I’m really glad to see that a team that actually wants to play some decent soccer won for a change. Maybe it’s the influence of Hiddink, but I really enjoy watching South Korea. It’s time for Italy to drop the ‘catenaccio’ (?), wear decent shirts, cut their hair, come down from their clouds, and start playing real soccer!!
GO SOUTH KOREA!!!!
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 01:58
#64
TotallyRandomNick wrote:
Italy lost because of the way they play. They were on the backfoot defending after they scored which made them vunerable. It makes you wonder why they didnt attack in the second half, with the talent they have going foreward they would have wiped the floor with the koreans. They were scared to go and score a second and paid for it.
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 09:28
#65
opalmantra wrote:
TotallyRandomNick wrote:
Italy lost because of the way they play.
Huh? I really hate the way Italy plays, I must admit. They’re a bunch of Gigolo’s. But this is unjustice. A game must at least be FAIR! Fair rules and GOOD discisions. The FIFA is a corrupt mother fuckier. Ruining the game…
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 12:04
#66
infernalover wrote:
well,
we WON the match at the “golden goal” but somebody tought that was an offside (you ALL have seen it!)
we could win it with a penalty, but the referee kicked out totti for ?simulation?????
that wasn’t a match, it was a false show made by the home country..
i think referee was really well payed to do that…
if not, HOW COLD YOU SEND A MAN WHO CAN’T DO HIS WORK IN A WORLD CUP?
the reason is that the home country MUST pass…
we were totally SCREWED…
i hope somebody will pay for that!
for me the match finished with Tommasi’s golden goal, that was absolutely REGULAR…
For me (and for ALL the public opinion) ITALY WON the match..
there’s no excuses, we played our match in eleven (and then in 10), but corea had 12 men, yes there was also the referee with them…
let’s see what will happen with spain…
naaah, that was the fair play tomb
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 15:44
#67
infernalover wrote:
oh, i forgot
SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR JOB, PIECE OF SHIT!
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 15:49
#68
Alan wrote:
Infernalover, I agree Italys “golden goal” should have stood, but I think it was just another wrong decision which happens in every game - I doubt there was anything corrupt about it.
As for the home side “must pass”, I don’t really believe that. In 94, Brazil beat the USA in the second round and the USA could corrupt anything if they wanted to.
It has to be said - Italy were negative; playing for a one-nil win and not looking to kill the game off - that tactic very nearly cost Spain against Ireland too. At least Korea played attacking football.
Waht about that asshole chairman of Perugia (the Italian club who Ahn ,the Korean golden goal winner, plays for)? He sacked Ahn because he scored against Italy! What was he supposed to do, miss it on purpose??? Would Ronaldo be sacked by Inter Milan if he scored against Italy?? I hope Ahn takes Perugia to court and fucking cleans them out… talk about sore losers! I have no pity for the Italians.
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 16:38
#69
penn wrote:
wrong decisions also happened in the matches against croatia and mexico.
but italy went out for other reasons: the trainer really sucks.
he did all wrong, in all 4 the games they played.
about korea, i don’t think they corrupted anyone, but i think that some of the referees were influenced by directing the home team.
for instance i remember a match of the 1st stage (maybe korea vs poland , don’t ask me why i watch such shitty matches), korea was winning 1-0, the referee gave only 2 minutes to play after the 90th minute, and then he stopped the match after only 1 minute and 20 seconds.
does this happen in every match?
Posted on Wed, 19 June 2002 at 20:56
#70
TotallyRandomNick wrote:
I think by blaming a corrupt referee you are just trying to find an excuse for italy’s underachievement…
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 09:56
#71
maya l wrote:
I think this world cup should act as a wake-up call for the so-called “Great soccer nations”. Just because they have won in the past they take succes for granted. That’s why so many of them are out.
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 10:12
#72
infernalover wrote:
hey penn, for me trapattoni has done nothing wrong… we had a great team, the only mistake: well, he could change vieri cause he was really tired…
alan: so why moreno (the referee in itay-korea) now is returning to equador, his fucking home? i don’t think because he did his job well…
also, you can think what you want about italian gameplay, BUT we won the match, and nothing else matters… is not important how you play, the important is to win, and, FUCK, we DID it! WE DID IT!!!
as i said, let’s see what will happen in the korea-spain match, i’m really courious about it…
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 12:38
#73
Alan wrote:
Title: Korea vs Spain
I actually want Spain to win this match, mainly cos they beat Ireland. But also cos I wanna see a Spain vs Brazil final - now that would be deadly!! I think Korea will freeze on the big occasion against Spain - okay, beating Italy was a huge shock, but Korea were not expected to do it. Now there is expectation against Spain but I think Spain will have too much for them. For the moment though, I’m really looking forward to England vs Brazil - christ it should be good!
Infernalover - maybe the referee (the guy from Ecuador), is being made a scapegoat to help pacify the Italians? Let’s remember, he didn’t disallow Tomassi’s goal - the lineman did. I will admit though, the Totti sending off was harsh. I don’t think it was a penalty but I don’t think it was a total dive either.
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 16:26
#74
infernalover wrote:
ok, ok…
but, i bet korea to win with spain… it’s my sixth sense…
but at this moment i want to watch senegal winning the world cup!
if brazil will win, we won’t be able to make us equal to them in 2006, when we’re gonna win our 4th world cup…
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 16:32
#75
penn wrote:
in my opinion trapattoni made 2 big mistakes:
changing delpiero with gattuso (a defensive midfielder) when italy had all the chances to score a goal to put an end to the match.
not changing vieri with inzaghi or montella (a fresh player in that situation would have scored at 90%).
the referee stole us a goal, but our way of playing stole us many goals against korea (one of the worst team in this cup).
Posted on Thu, 20 June 2002 at 20:22
#76
Michael wrote:
No Carlo, Italy lost, and they totally deserved to lose!!! Why can’t you just admit South Korea outplayed Italy? And I’m not sure if Italy was worse off without Totti, he was really crappy throughout this tournament. This is nothing against Italy, but I’m glad the team that played attractive soccer and actually wanted to play some decent soccer won!
Oh, and I think in 2006 Germany will be coloured ‘arancione’ instead of ‘azzurro’, I’m sure our guys have learnt their lesson!
Posted on Fri, 21 June 2002 at 05:00
#77
opalmantra wrote:
Uhm. There’s a big difference between who deserves to win: the one who plays the most attractive/better soccer (Korea) or the one who scores the most goals FAIR and SQUARE (italy). If we want the first one, we must implement a Jury and decide who’s best.
If we want the seconde one, we need new ways of making the game FAIR.
I totally agree with you Carlo! If italy wants to play the way they do (fun to watch or not), so be it. The referee made ONE HELL OF A STUPID discission. Scapegoat or not. He’s the only one to blame and the Fifa with him, becuase of the conservative rules.
5 Seconds a look from the 4th official on a TV screen and Italy’s of to the next round. Like it or not.
If you want to see ENJOYABLE footbal go see your local little children’s soccer. They play nice.
Posted on Fri, 21 June 2002 at 08:33
#78
Michael wrote:
And you call yourself Dutch? I’d rather watch nice attacking soccer than watch boring defensive soccer such as Italy’s, even if you lose a match. There’s more to soccer than just winning, its actually meant for the public’s entertainment, although most teams seem to have forgotten about this.
Holland may have lost the ‘74 and ‘78 finals, but everybody remembered them because of the way they played. I’ll never forget the way Holland played in the 2nd round of ‘98. So screw Italy, they got what they deserved!!
And may I remind you of the fact that it was the LINESMAN who made the mistake, not the referee, so he should be the scapegoat. And you can’t blame the ref for penalizing Totti, after all, the Italians are really famous for their acting on the pitch!
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 10:05
#79
Nitro wrote:
TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRASIL’S NEXT!!!!
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 13:44
#80
Nitro wrote:
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 13:52
#81
penn wrote:
i liked senegal very much, but turkey played better; now i hope they will win the cup (and find a decent referee against brazil).
what about the spain-korea match? i think they feel like the italians now…
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 14:57
#82
donVutz wrote:
damit, what’s wrong with this years world cup? it seems like the teams who play the worst football always kick the others out of the tournament. i mean turkey was good, but you have to admit that senegal was better. and do i have to say anything about germany? nah, forget it, maybe the final will be turkey - south korea, that would rock, but i think it’ll be germany - turkey, and in that case i’ll leave this country.
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 15:13
#83
Nitro wrote:
Senegal was better? Funny!
Turkey was better except Hakan Þükür. I think he must quit playing football.
This year’s world cup is so important. Because, it has shown us that noone can be favourite. People must start to live with surprises..
I don’t think we can pass Brasil. And I don’t want to think of playing the final or winning the cup. Because, tonight all the streets are crowded. Everyone’s drinking and screaming “Red - White - TURKEY!!!!”
In the 27 years of my life it’s the first time for me to say “I’m proud to be Turkish!”
Posted on Sat, 22 June 2002 at 20:02
#84
maya l wrote:
The referee in the match Turkey against Brazil is going to be Kim Milton. So far he has done very well… No goals “robbed” or anything. Very fair.
Posted on Sun, 23 June 2002 at 16:24
#85
opalmantra wrote:
Hurray!
Spain has been fucked too.
I’m not going to take this cup serious anymore.
“Fair Play”
Hahahahhaaaaaaa. My ass.
Posted on Sun, 23 June 2002 at 19:37
#86
infernalover wrote:
Title: …as I said… :p
korea won with SPAIN!
and like italy, spain WON the match at the golden goal… nedd to say more? nah, just like italy, now spain has a good excuse for its elimination, isn’t it? pppffffffhhh…
and, michael, yeah, our team wasn’t so good, but… it doesn’t matter! a team wins a match if it scores, not if it’s “enjoyable” to watch! (i HATE watching football match, but for the world cup i do it…) *AND* someone think that the totti red card may have been a penalty for italy…
Posted on Sun, 23 June 2002 at 21:00
#87
penn wrote:
maya, do you mean kim milton nielsen? he reminds me one of the worst directions i saw in the last year, i think it was juventus-leverkusen…
and about senegal-turkey, i also think that turkey played better in that match. but senegal played great football in the other matches.
i think turkey can beat brazil, because brazil’s not defending so well.
Posted on Sun, 23 June 2002 at 21:01
#88
Nitro wrote:
I hope Turkey will beat Brasil. But, I don’t want Turkey to play the final with Korea. Guess why
:)
Posted on Sun, 23 June 2002 at 22:26
#89
Michael wrote:
I hope Brazil - South Korea is going to be the final, and that Korea wins. But I’m a bit biased, because of Hiddink.
Also unbelievable how easy it was for Turkey to get to the semi-finals. The only serious opposition was Brazil (which they didn’t deserve to lose, I must say), but Japan and Senegal, China, and Costa Rica, come on!!?? At least South Korea won (controversially) against Portugal, Spain, and Italy, that’s some serious opposition. This World Cup is getting crappier and crappier by the day…
And Carlo, I’m addicted to soccer, so every now and then it’s nice to see some decent soccer. But the result is the most important thing for a team, you’re damn right about that!
Posted on Mon, 24 June 2002 at 03:04
#90
TotallyRandomNick wrote:
penn wrote:
do you mean kim milton nielsen?
isnt that the bloke that sent beckham off in 1998 against argentina?
Posted on Mon, 24 June 2002 at 10:06
