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Started by Cairnz in General Therapy? Topics

I really like Therapy? and living in Belgium I saw them perform 11 times now. It’s not that I dislike their latest albums, but I prefer the Therapy? albums such as Troublegum and Semi-Detached. This is where Therapy? scores the best, everybody’s going crazy during live performances, during listening the cd at home… The latest albums are more hardcore and not so easy listening as before. Working with the producer of Troublegum and Semi-Detached made me feel happy, also as Therapy? promised to release the best Therapy? album so far… but as I listen to “Hey Satan, You Rock” on http://www.spitfirerecords.com/Therapy.htm I fear the worst. Yet another hard, non-therapy? album. So sad… There is no more drumming like Fyfe or Graham, there is no more guitar sound like in troublegum, there is no more fun in it, just straight rock… Shouldn’t Andy and co. realise that their fans keep following their work because they keep waiting for another troublegum, but get dissapointed time after time… I did not hear the other songs yet, but if they seem to be like “Hey Satan, you rock”, Therapy? loses a Belgian fan, and I will not be the first, neither the last…
Come on Therapy?, surprise us, with the greatest album ever, a real therapy? one, we keep hoping, but hope floats…

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 13:25

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#1

MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:

Everybody is not waiting for Troublegum II. I’m pretty sure that I really like the forthcoming album and really hope that it isn’t Troublegum part two. I’m not trying to kiss anybody’s butt but I have loved EVERY album they’ve done just simply because they are so different compairing to another. Well that’s what keeps me interested in Therapy? for 11 years. They are not predictible… Some how that Satan-song’s drumming kind of sounded like Fyfe’s drumming, especially bass-drum.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:31

#2

Alan wrote:

Honestly, Troublegum is the album that I least listen to. I think I put it on once in the last 3/4 years. The album I listen to most is Babyteeth, followed by Shameless.

That’s not me bullshitting anyone, it’s the truth. I don’t want Troublegum part 2, I think most of the fans who want that have stopped listening to Therapy? anyway. The fans who are left (most of them!) keep listening to the band ‘cos every album is different.

It’s no surprise that the 2 albums I listen to most, is the first and last records they’ve released. Change is good - look what’s happened to Green Day. They’ve gone stale ‘cos every album sounded the same.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:42

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mfgeorge wrote:

cairnz, while i respect your opinion, i don’t think it speaks for everyone… while i don’t think ‘hey satan’ is that great either, ‘suicide pact-you first’ is my fav. t? album, followed closely by nurse… in other words, doing another troublegum or semi-detached is not my top choice for musical directions i wish t? to follow… sure i didn’t care for the last album all the much, and who knows what this one will sound like… i don’t think we can judge it from one song… it would be like judging infernal love by diane, or semi-detached by tramline…

so i suggest to hold on and wait for the album… and if you don’t like it as much as the others, that’s ok, because when a band makes every album sounding different the chances are you’re not going to like every one of them… but that doesn’t mean you need to give up faith, it just means you wait ‘til the next one…

cheers!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:47

#4

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: woooooo !!!!!

canada george!!!!

so many old names from the old therapy?
mail list now live here.. WHEE!!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:51

#5

mfgeorge wrote:

Title: Re: woooooo !!!!!

timmytyronebob wrote:

canada george!!!!

so many old names from the old therapy?
mail list now live here.. WHEE!!

it’s actully matthew (george being my last name), but HI!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:52

#6

sull wrote:

Hello Cairnz! Fine to meet you, but sorry i am not really agree with you!
For example shameless wasn’t a sad album! Indeed “gimme gimme gimme back my brain” smelt “Beers and punk rock attitude”!!! This is fucking rock and fine, isn’t it!
It is true that “Suicide pact” was more dark and strange, but i loves it! Therapy is not a “one style band”! They are rock, punk, metal, pop, noisy…and good for that!
You see, in my opinion, semi detached suprised me when i listenned to it the first times : So much poppy. Nevertheless i really loves this album!
I would like to know what is your opinion on “nurse” and “caucasian psychosis”. These albums, like suicide pact, are not a punk rock album. They are more hardcore (Animals Bones, accelerator…), more noisy (Dancin’ with manson, nausea, zipless…), “dirter”!! The “Big Black“‘s offspring!!! Greaaatttt!!!!

Excuse for english…i’m french!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 14:56

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davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: Re: Re: woooooo !!!!!

mfgeorge wrote:

it’s actully matthew (george being my last name), but HI!

doh yeah i forget so easily. perhaps it’s
the drugs!

this is america-dave btw.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:04

#8

Dr. Bigjoint wrote:

I think the new album is really good.
I don’t think it’s OK saying about the album after listening only one track. If you could listen to the rest you could say something different.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:06

#9

Alan wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Re: woooooo !!!!!

timmytyronebob wrote:

doh yeah i forget so easily. perhaps it’s
the drugs!

this is america-dave btw.

America Dave, of Dave Switzer fame?

The guy with the never updated site!!! :-)

What took you so long to join this board?

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:25

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Finnish_Fiend (Claus Rosqvist) wrote:

I’ve heard 2 tracks from new album (Satan, and If it kills me (live)). I think it will be one of the greatest records this year. I really liked the sound in Satan, and If it kills me has one of the greatest melodies I’ve heard for long time. Ofcourse we all have our own opinions, and I try to respect other opinions that aren’t exactly like mine.

I can’t even remember when was the last time I waited any album this much! Maybe last years Danzig 777…

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:29

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davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: woooooo !!!!!

Alan wrote:

America Dave, of Dave Switzer fame?

The guy with the never updated site!!! :-)

What took you so long to join this board?

fame? HAHAHA..

well yeah, .. my site was specifically
about therapy? in the USA… and ya
know what.. there is no therapy? in
the states!!@#…

I realized my time was better spent
hosting the usually dead mail list
(need to move to majordomo..) and
hosting stuff.. like alex’s suicidepact
site.. and what’s his name who never answers my mail but has 140 megs of
mp3s on my machine.. brainsawwww
daz it.

wow i’m insanely out of it. 3 hrs
sleep. YAY!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:31

#12

Citizen Erased wrote:

Am really looking forward to the new album, but probably would be even if I hadn’t liked ‘Hey Satan’ (cheery-pop!) and ‘If It Kills Me’ which I can’t wait ti hear live (as opposed to a live recording…).

It’ll sound like T? whatever, because of the basslines and Andy’s vocals, which is good, but it shouldn’t sound like the other albums, because, having got them, there’d be no point buying the new one.

Change is good thing.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 15:45

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mfgeorge wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: woooooo !!!!!

timmytyronebob wrote:

fame? HAHAHA..
well yeah, .. my site was specifically about therapy? in the USA… and ya know what.. there is no therapy? in the states!!@#… I realized my time was better spent hosting the usually dead mail list (need to move to majordomo..) and hosting stuff.. like alex’s suicidepact site.. and what’s his name who never answers my mail but has 140 megs of mp3s on my machine.. brainsawwww daz it.
wow i’m insanely out of it. 3 hrs sleep. YAY!

Dave Switzer? no shit! how the hell are ya?
whadda mean there’s no t? in the states… they were there in 2001 or something… i had to drive to cleveland to see them… more then i can say for canada… but then again, that’s problaby why my site hasn’t been updates in ages as well!

hey, does the t? list still work? i don’t remember the last time a message went out on that thing… i guess message boards are the way of the future… do you remember wouter in belgium who was on the mailing list? i still talk to him all the time…

well take care… nice memory lane visit!
cheers!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 16:09

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davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: woop

matt! si. tis me. or some nonsense.

yes, it supposedly works.. but i
just sent a note out and it didn’t
go anywhere.. and i can’t remember
my user password on that machine (doh!).

i’m seriously thinking this needs to
migrate to the machine that suicidepact.com lives on, and onto
a proper mail list software… would
be nice to see that old PoS list revived
somewhat…

tell wouter hey!!… it’s nutty we used
to actually have a little group on that
list… and now.. they’ve all left me..
sniff.. sniff..er.. damn i need more
caffeine.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 16:37

#15

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Its gonna rock, I can feel it

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 16:44

#16

Shra-Mee wrote:

I don´t think that Troublegum was “Easy Listening”, although I prefer other T?-albums.

And I think it´s useless to hope for another Pop-Rock-Album like Troublegum or Infernal Love. Therapy? have changed a lot concerning their sounding and will go on doing so, and for me that´s just fantastic!

Well, my favourite album is SP-YF: Great and inspired Noise-Rock!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 19:49

#17

Bad Karma wrote:

When it comes to new Therapy albums i say always expect the unexpected,thats why i love them so much each album they have made sounds different.I don’t think you can really judge the new album on the basis of hearing one new song.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 20:53

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Cairnz wrote:

Okay, I appreciate your opinions, maybe I expressed myself a bit to strong on the other albums, ‘cause I like them also, but I prefer (that’s a difference) troublegum. I get wild hearing screamager, trigger inside e.o.
Some of you talk about a great album (read: high anxiety)but the album is unfortunately still not released in Belgium. Is it anywhere else yet released? I’m gonna buy it anyway, even as it rocks as hard as SP-YF. But as said by some of you, it’s a matter of taste, and everyone’s taste is different. And that’s good. So thanx for your replies and maybe we meet at a T? concert, who knows… hope to see them perform at Rock Werchter, let’s hope…

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 20:57

#19

Bad Karma wrote:

High Anxiety hasn’t been released yet,I can’t wait to hear it.

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 21:00

#20

Sparky wrote:

Cant wait for the new T? CD! Hey Satan You Rock rocks!

Posted on Tue, 18 March 2003 at 22:56

#21

MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:

timmytyronebob wrote:

so many old names from the old therapy?
mail list now live here.. WHEE!!

I’m here…

Hello David and mfgeorge!

Nice to see that David finally joined this community.

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 07:26

#22

Citizen Erased wrote:

Of course, it would be <quite> nice if there was another Screamager/Nowhere type song on it. And as there was no Diane/The Boy’s Asleep/Six Mile Water type on Shameless, a slow one would be cool.

And a side order of fries

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 09:35

#23

Shra-Mee wrote:

Well, “Wicked Man” was kinda slow…

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 13:50

#24

donVutz wrote:

and a song that’s make you wann go running wild with your pants down and your face painted over red with strawberry-jam like “dancin’with manson”, “straight life” or “little tounges first”.

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 14:03

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Citizen Erased wrote:

Ugh, think of the bees, at least the strawberry jam,’s on your face though.

Wicked Man admittedly started and ended slowly, but the middle bit really rocked (although I can’t make out the words of the secind verse), in joi-de-vivre (?) kind of way which made ‘one’ wind down the car windows and frighten people at traffic lights with one’s singing. Possibly.

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 14:16

#26

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

We have to remember that the recipe for the new T? album has changed yet again, with a new Drummer etc. I heard loads of demos for shameless and ‘This Ones for You’ was the best one I heard, and I heard that at Camden town Live. When I got the album I thought it was well over produced and it was well to laid back for T? + the best songs were still ‘This Ones for You’ plus ‘Stalk and Slash’ with the others being avarage. That was a major suprise for me cause there wasn’t ever much I didn’t like by T? before, er when I think about it there was nothing.

I’ve heard two songs from the new album and I reckon that they both sound great. They’re sharp, catchy and most importantly they make me wanna headbang. Even if the album don’t stand the hype, when they come to a town near you they’re gonna blow your socks off…

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 14:29

#27

Bad Karma wrote:

Citizen Erased wrote:

Of course, it would be <quite> nice if there was another Screamager/Nowhere type song on it. And as there was no Diane/The Boy’s Asleep/Six Mile Water type on Shameless, a slow one would be cool.

Yeah i would like a slow song with lots of cello.

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 19:57

#28

Michael wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

… ‘This Ones for You’ was the best one I heard, and I heard that at Camden town Live. When I got the album I thought it was well over produced and it was well to laid back for T? …

You’re abso-diddly-lutely right about This One’s For You, it’s overproduced on Shameless, it could’ve been much better!

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 20:46

#29

trigger wrote:

Title: Re: What’s to be expected of the new album?

Cairnz wrote:

I really like Therapy? and living in Belgium I saw them perform 11 times now. It’s not that I dislike their latest albums, but I prefer the Therapy? albums such as Troublegum and Semi-Detached. This is where Therapy? scores the best, everybody’s going crazy during live performances, during listening the cd at home… The latest albums are more hardcore and not so easy listening as before. Working with the producer of Troublegum and Semi-Detached made me feel happy, also as Therapy? promised to release the best Therapy? album so far… but as I listen to “Hey Satan, You Rock” on http://www.spitfirerecords.com/Therapy.htm I fear the worst. Yet another hard, non-therapy? album. So sad… There is no more drumming like Fyfe or Graham, there is no more guitar sound like in troublegum, there is no more fun in it, just straight rock… Shouldn’t Andy and co. realise that their fans keep following their work because they keep waiting for another troublegum, but get dissapointed time after time… I did not hear the other songs yet, but if they seem to be like “Hey Satan, you rock”, Therapy? loses a Belgian fan, and I will not be the first, neither the last…
Come on Therapy?, surprise us, with the greatest album ever, a real therapy? one, we keep hoping, but hope floats…

to be honest, i dont cite troublegum as T?’s best album. any pre ‘94 release will do for me. but i will agree that the late releases do not sound like T? at all. and i can relate to
SPYF and the two tracks off the retrospective because the sound is different but the attitude and edge is still there. what i can’t relate to is half of the shameless album where T? sound like a third division Turbo Negro or Ramones wannabe band. hey satan you rock must be one of the worst T? songs ever and if it is supposed to be one of the highlights of the new album then i am afraid that T? and me will have to part ways.

Posted on Wed, 19 March 2003 at 22:04

#30

mooneycult wrote:

Title: Re: Re: What’s to be expected of the new album?

trigger wrote:

hey satan you rock must be one of the worst T? songs ever and if it is supposed to be one of the highlights of the new album then i am afraid that T? and me will have to part ways.

have to agree here am afraid, am not impressed at all by hey satan you rock. i kept thinking i was just getting a shitty download of it but no, i appear to have the real thing. reminded me strongly of gimme back my brain - punked up riffing with comedy lyrics.

its the comedy aspect that worries me the most - in the past what i’ve loved about T? is that they tackled serious issues but always maintained a black sense of humour (who else could wite a lyric like “masturbation saved my life” and still have the song taken seriously?), whereas on shameless there was too much humour and not really enough substance, though overall the album was still great.

i still have high hopes for the album but that song hasn’t reassured me…

Posted on Thu, 20 March 2003 at 09:04

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