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Started by Charlie in General Therapy? Topics

Why does everyone rate it next to Troublegum and Semi Detached ( and now High Anxiety )…

I really liked it at first but the muddy production is a bit annoying after a while…

I think the best albums are the ones Chris Sheldon has been involved in.

:cool:

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 13:00

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mooneycult wrote:

better than semi and (almost) on a par with troublegum.

the thing about suicide pact is that it was never intended to be a prefect 10/10 album, its not as consistant as troublegum but i just love its “fuck you” style attitude and its originality.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 13:12

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Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

Semi detached? Gimmie Infernal Love any day.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 13:12

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up_in_flames (Tom) wrote:

the muddy production is the thing I love the most about sp-yf. in fact, the perfect and clean production of the above mentioned albums takes so much, hrmm.., power from the songs, which still kick ass, no doubt about that. but for me the production of a rock album should be muddy and dirty!!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 13:56

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mfgeorge wrote:

Title: Re: Suicide Pact

Squall wrote:

Why does everyone rate it next to Troublegum and Semi Detached ( and now High Anxiety )…

I really liked it at first but the muddy production is a bit annoying after a while…

I think the best albums are the ones Chris Sheldon has been involved in.

:cool:

sp-yf is by far my fav. therapy album… hell, it’s in my top 5 albums of all time by anyone… there is no better album ever made that just says ‘fuck you’ all over it… it gets me so pumped when i feel like shit, and i just want to go out and destroy something… but since i’m a responsible person, the album gets that feeling across without me actually having to go to jail!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 14:26

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dano wrote:

I love Suicide Pact.. but I didn’t really like it when I first got it! It was like “huh?” Then after about 9 or 10 listens it was like..”fuck yeah!” Mainly due to the fact that when I first got it my girlfriend at the time wasn’t particularily impressed with me playing it loud, so giving it a hefty dose of volume really brought it out for me.

The double whammy of Little Tongues First and 10 Year Plan is great..it’s a shame that Fat Camp wasn’t on there as it sits perfectly amongst these 2!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 14:37

#6

Denim Demon wrote:

You gotta love ‘Whilst I Pursue My Way Unharmed’, it’s effing brilliant !!!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 14:48

#7

dano wrote:

I’ve mentioned this a while back on another thread, the drum and bass line on that song is awesome!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 14:50

#8

opalmantra wrote:

Nice idea! It would have been stronger with Fat Camp and Bad Karma on it. It’s not an album I can just pick up easily and spin it around 20 times. :D

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 14:53

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ianrauk wrote:

Title: I’m with you on this one brother

Kill_Hill wrote:

Semi detached? Gimmie Infernal Love any day.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 15:02

#10

dano wrote:

I prefer Semi to IL!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 15:03

#11

Bad Karma wrote:

SP-YF is a great album,i must admit it took me a few listens before i really liked it.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 17:38

#12

TotallyRandomNick wrote:

some albums are like that though arent they. dont click straight away but a week later its a classic…

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 17:41

#13

Michael wrote:

I still don’t like SP-YF, and I don’t think I’ll ever get used to the sound. Little Tongues First and Wall Of Mouths are great tracks though, but that doesn’t compensate for songs like God Kicks and Hate Kill Destroy.
On the other hand, I totally love Semi-Detached, I already loved it at first listen.
Well, there you have it, a thousand people, a thousand different tastes!

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 17:44

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Shra-Mee wrote:

up_in_flames wrote:

the muddy production is the thing I love the most about sp-yf. in fact, the perfect and clean production of the above mentioned albums takes so much, hrmm.., power from the songs, which still kick ass, no doubt about that. but for me the production of a rock album should be muddy and dirty!!

Yeah, that´s my opinion, although I wouldn´t say that the production is “muddy” .
I think it´s raw, direct and powerful.
Even though I like Semi-Detached and Troublegum, I think that they are a little bit “overproduced”, there no edges, if someone knows, what I try to say…
;-)

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 18:41

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opalmantra wrote:

I think Troublegum sounds very direct…no crazy studio stuff on there. Infernal Love has more tricks.
Production wise SP-YF is pretty good. But it has some real fuzzy guitars on and lots of noise. The bass is quite deep also, Wool-y a bit…The cymbals/high-hat seem to be mixed more in front than the rest of the drums also…
But it in the end…its the songs that count.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 19:13

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Bad Karma wrote:

Denim Demon wrote:

You gotta love ‘Whilst I Pursue My Way Unharmed’, it’s effing brilliant !!!

Its such an insane track i love it.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 19:17

#17

TotallyRandomNick wrote:

…and elephants also… :D

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 19:18

#18

Bad Karma wrote:

Thank you for Vietnam…:D

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 19:20

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Chump Change wrote:

Suicide Pact is great! I love the album and all the tracks well minus ‘God Kicks’ but Big Cave In I think personally is one of Therapys? best ever tracks! Six Mile Water also.

As for Semi and Infernal I would take Infernal, but only just.

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 21:10

#20

Egon Spengler wrote:

Anyone else notice the main riff to ‘Wall Of Mouths’ is almost exactly the same as the one on ‘Nub’ by the Jesus Lizard?

Subconscious theft?:D

Posted on Tue, 13 May 2003 at 21:16

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mooneycult wrote:

Egon Spengler wrote:

Anyone else notice the main riff to ‘Wall Of Mouths’ is almost exactly the same as the one on ‘Nub’ by the Jesus Lizard?

Subconscious theft?:D

dunno about that, but the same riff resurfaces on the next album on “body bag girl”.

Posted on Wed, 14 May 2003 at 08:23

#22

Bad Karma wrote:

Does anyone else think SP-YF is T?’s equivalent of Nirvana’s In Utero?

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 17:38

#23

Flo wrote:

Semi-detached is my least favourite Therapy? album. Anyone else thinks the same?

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 18:16

#24

RobbyVDH wrote:

Flo wrote:

Semi-detached is my least favourite Therapy? album. Anyone else thinks the same?

Probably yes, but not me…

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 18:22

#25

Michael wrote:

Me neither, it’s one of my faves actually.

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 18:48

#26

Knives wrote:

RobbyVDH wrote:

Probably yes, but not me…

Michael wrote:

Me neither, it’s one of my faves actually.

Have to agree …

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 19:23

#27

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Michael wrote:

Me neither, it’s one of my faves actually.

Me toooooo

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 19:37

#28

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Semi Detached, Suicide Pact and Nurse are my current top 3 (not incuding HA cause I need more time to decide on that!) :)

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 19:58

#29

Superunknown wrote:

“Semi-Detached” is my No. 1 lately.

It’s strange how long it took me to like “Suicide Pact - You First”. I guess I was sceptical at first because I thought Therapy? would go on doing albums like that exclusively. Escpecially after Andy told a friend of mine at a gig that they would “keep going in that direction.”.
Apparently “Suicide Pact - You First” was a one time thing (much like every other T? Album) and I actually think it’s a damn good album, one of T?’s best!

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 21:13

#30

Bad Karma wrote:

Can you imagine if they had continued the sound of SP-YF and made a whole album that sounded like Whilst I Pursue My Way Unharmed.

Posted on Thu, 15 May 2003 at 22:39

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