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Started by Bad Karma in Other Bands & Artists

Any fans of The Smashing Pumpkins here?,i use to be a big fan back in the day.I have just started listening to them again for the first time in ages.I don’t like Zwan (Billy Corgans new band) at all i think they are awful,their album Mary Star of The Sea was very dull and lifeless.All the songs sound the same and the lyrics are very dodgy.The Pumpkins were one of the most prolific and successful bands of the 90’s.My favourite album by them is Siamese Dream but i like all their albums.The Pumpkins gave away their last album for free Machina 2.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:06

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dano wrote:

I was never a fan of them in all honesty, I think Billy Corgan needs to cheer up as well! There’s only so many times you can appear miserable!

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:25

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Bad Karma wrote:

As much as i like the music Corgan never did himself any favours in interviews,everyone says hes mad as fuck,and how can you be miserable after 25 million album sales?

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:29

#3

dano wrote:

I have no idea, maybe being miserable is a monetary asset?

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:31

#4

Bad Karma wrote:

His new band Zwan are quite ‘happy sounding’ and most of his new songs are love songs maybe thats why i don’t like them.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:33

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dano wrote:

What, you mean you think he’s gone away from doing what he’s good at?

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:35

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

The smashing pumkins were/are great. Best album Melone Collie! Going to Glastonbury this year and hoping to catch Zwan there, although I’m not to keen on what I’ve heard.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:41

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dano wrote:

Do you think Glastonbury is a tad overrated?

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:44

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Bad Karma wrote:

dano wrote:

What, you mean you think he’s gone away from doing what he’s good at?

Well Zwan and the Pumpkins don’t really sound all that different,i just think his song writing and music is in decline.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:45

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

No. I’ve been to reading and other festivals and can’t stand the atmosphere - to many dick heads who are fucked up on speed. At least in glastonbury if you bump into someone chances are they’ll apologuise to you before you do to them.
And it a tokers festival anyway - so suits me :D

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:46

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dano wrote:

Heh! Never been, always considered it but most people I know who go say stuff like ” it’s not about the music” Well, for me it is..which is why I’ve never been!

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:47

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Man I am pure metal/rock through and through, every time I’ve been I’ve had so much trouble choosing who to go and see cos there’ll be two bands I like on at the same time. I’ve seen QOTSA (with Dave Grohl), Foo Fighters , Ash, Idlewild, Nine inch Nails, Lost prophits, Cypus Hill (amazing live!!) etc. there are loads of bands that you’ll like playing and plus there is so much to do there. :)

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:50

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Bad Karma wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

The smashing pumkins were/are great. Best album Melone Collie! Going to Glastonbury this year and hoping to catch Zwan there, although I’m not to keen on what I’ve heard.

I think Zwan might be playing Witness as well.

What do you think of the Pumpkins later albums after Mellon Collie?

Did you download Machina 2?

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:51

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dano wrote:

Mmmn..I’m almost tempted! Are there tickets still available? I know it sells out pretty fast!

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:52

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Bad Karma wrote:

dano wrote:

Heh! Never been, always considered it but most people I know who go say stuff like ” it’s not about the music” Well, for me it is..which is why I’ve never been!

I have just watched it on tv a few times.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:52

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dano wrote:

I’ve watched it on TV a bit as well, I nearly went just for Rocket From The Crypt a couple of years back, but decided against it!

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:53

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Did you download Machina 2?

If you’re reffering to have I heard the album the Yeah. Though that was a wicked mix of all there dfferent styles, great ending from a great band! :)

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:54

#17

Bad Karma wrote:

I thought it was cool the way they just gave the album away for free,apparently it was a fuck you to Virgin their record company who wouldn’t release it.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:57

#18

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

I thought it was cool the way they just gave the album away for free,apparently it was a fuck you to Virgin their record company who wouldn’t release it.

Wow, didn’t know that.

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 15:59

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Bad Karma wrote:

This is a great site for pumpkin info http://www.spfc.org

Posted on Sun, 25 May 2003 at 20:52

#20

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Cool. Ta :)

Posted on Mon, 26 May 2003 at 08:28

#21

Bad Karma wrote:

Heres another great site with loads of mp3s http://www.billy-corgan.net you should downlaod the Reeltime Sessions if you don’t already have them.The Reeltime Sessions are demos from before they made Gish,well worth checking out.

Posted on Mon, 26 May 2003 at 12:39

#22

Bad Karma wrote:

What if that guy from The Smashing Pumpkins lost his car keys?

http://www.stephenlynch.com/keys/

Posted on Sun, 22 June 2003 at 16:09

#23

Paranoid Android wrote:

Did any of you hear the news that Zwan have cancelled their entire European tour?

That means no appearances at Glastonbury, T in the Park and Witnness!! :mad:

I was so looking forward to seeing them at Witnness.

Posted on Sun, 22 June 2003 at 17:15

#24

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

I just want to do a dance of joy to Stephen Lynch, the man is a god. have you heard Superhero, BK?

Posted on Sun, 22 June 2003 at 22:45

#25

Bad Karma wrote:

Nope i haven’t heard it Hooch i had never heard of Stephen Lynch until yesterday.

Posted on Mon, 23 June 2003 at 17:49

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tatty seaside town wrote:

zwan is just a cheap copy of the pumpkins …
the orginal drummer from the pumpkins
(he is one of the best rock drummers i think … really itentional and hard and soft and everything a drummer needs to know … goes along with herb-tim alexander from primus and the drummer from soundgarden)

but look at the people playing in zwan … theres like in the pumpkins a girl on the bass and i chinese man on second guitar … looks the same to me … music is softer but i never liked the pumpkins, just their drummer :)

Posted on Mon, 23 June 2003 at 18:59

#27

prisonbreaker wrote:

I think they aren’t that bad, they don’t blow me away or anything, but they are just a decent rockband, with a hot bass-playster!!!!!!!! :D :D

Posted on Mon, 23 June 2003 at 19:22

#28

Bad Karma wrote:

I think Mary Star Of The Sea is a really bad album and yeah Paz is a good looking woman.

Posted on Mon, 23 June 2003 at 19:28

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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

Nope i haven’t heard it Hooch i had never heard of Stephen Lynch until yesterday.

You have to download some more, honestly he is the funniest guy! Superhero:

If I could be a superhero I would be Awesome Man
Flying around the world fighting crime
According to my awesome plan
And if I saw criminals trying to lie
Hurting other people and making them cry
I’d haul them off to jail in my awesome van
Cause I would be Awesome Man

If I could be a superhero I would be Drug-Free Boy
Telling the world of the evils of drugs and all of the lives they’ve destroyed
Well I’d take all the junkies he’s getting so high
With their needles and bongs and their sticks made of Thai
As I burned them alive I would squeal with joy
Cause I would be Drug-Free Boy

If I could be a superhero I would be Immigration Dude
I’d send all the foreigners back to their homes
For eating up all of our food
And taking our welfare and best jobs to boot
Like landscaping dishwashing and picking our fruit
I’d pass a lot of laws to get rid of their brood
Cause I would be Immigration Dude

If I could be a superhero would you be Justice Guy
Making sure people get what they deserve
Especially women who lie
Like if a wife left her husband with two kids and no job
To run off to Hawaii with some doctor named Bob
You could skin them and drain them of blood so they die
Especially Bob
Then you would be Justice Guy

Or you could be more subtle, I didn’t mean to be vague
Give her the mad cow disease, let him die of the plague
As long as they suffer for their terrible lies
Especially Bob
Then you would be Justice Guy

Yes then you would be
A superhero like meeeee

Heh heh heh

Posted on Mon, 23 June 2003 at 21:41

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