Wall of Mouths

This whole story raises some serious issues, it reminded me a bit in places of the Craig Charles ” Sex pestering” story.

For one thing I don’t think it’s right that somebody who is accused of a crime should be named in public, I know that he was accidentally “outed” on the Wright Stuff ( although I recall a journalist criticising Wright as they claimed this wasn’t the first time he’d done something like this in order to further his own career ), but I don’t think that if somebody is accused of something they should have their name divulged…mud sticks!

The whole story didn’t really portray the women accusing him of sex pestering in a good light..in fact it made them sound thick, basically it seemed to consist of ” John Leslie bought me drinks all night and when he invited me to his room I went…and then he expected sex” ( I know that this wasn’t the same with all the women who came forward, but certainly seemed true of the higher profile ones ).

The “unsavoury nature” of John Leslie verged on the ridiculous, so he took drugs and boasted of bedding loads of women..big deal, if any guy was honest and was in a similar high profile postition I reckon he’d do the same.. I know I would! This is the kind of behaviour the press celebrate rock stars for! Although I don’t think I’d knob Ulrika…

Speaking of her, I think that basically what she’s done is well out of order, apparently she blew her top at a journalist the other day saying that she hadn’t done anything and that people should leave her alone..what a cow! She was quite happy of all the attention when she had a book to sell.

On a final note, I thought he was long overdue a fall- although not quite on that level- he’s always struck me as being a smug bastard anyway, but I wouldn’t wish something like that on my worst enemy. I wonder if he tried sex pestering Fern Britten?

dano wrote:

This whole story raises some serious issues, it reminded me a bit in places of the Craig Charles ” Sex pestering” story.

He was damn lucky to get his career back after that!!

hoochalobster wrote:

people aren’t going to forget what’s happened and there’ll always be those who have doubts about him from now on.

Yeah people are always going to thinking maybe he was guilty.

Bad Karma wrote:

Craig Charles was very lucky that Robot Wars show seems to be a hit i watched it once but i didn’t really like it.

He also did another 3 series of Red Dwarf, which is what I’m more bothered about :D

Early Red Dwarf was great, it got a bit shit towards the end though - I think they should have stopped making it a lot sooner and gone out on a high.

From the John Leslie case to Red Dwarf in 7 posts :)

Back on topic, I think it’s disgraceful what happened to JL, and he deserves to sue the asses off every guilty party. The man nearly topped himself for Christ’s sake…

mr self destruct wrote:

From the John Leslie case to Red Dwarf in 7 posts :)

What do you expect? :D

mr self destruct wrote:

From the John Leslie case to Red Dwarf in 7 posts :)

Hey we always do go off topic lol

Now back to Leslie i’m just wondering how do you cope with all the stress and worry that your friends,family the people you work with and the general public all think you might be a sex offender?

Red Dwarf should be in production, but things keep faltering - money issues, Chris Barrie filming Tomb Raider II etc. I believe that the intention is still for the movie to come out at some time, but I think that interest will fade if they leave it too long.

John Leslie (and Craig Charles) should have had anonymity - whilst the full facts of their situations are clouded to say the least, the Hamilton’s case clearly shows that this would be a good thing and that the current situation assumes that the victim is whoever is making the claim - not a terribly just position.

However, the media blitz on Mr Leslie post the dropping of charges will hopefully help him rebuild things - I wouldn’t be surprised if, financially at least, he emerges better off from the whole thing.

I’m back btw. ;)

Citizen Erased wrote:

Chris Barrie filming Tomb Raider II etc.

How could he stoop so low?

It’s highly unlikely at present that the Red Dwarf movie will go ahead, there’s a stage in Shepperton where all the props and sets are currently stored, and they’re all taken from a low budget brit sci-fi flick. Robert Llewelyn has had a life cast taken from him for the new Kryten suit, but given his past history ( the effects guys kept having to expand the suit by an inch every season due to his reputation for partying ) they’ll probably have to start again if they ever get around to it..which seems quite unlikely at present!

Going back to the Craig Charles case, it was later admitted very publicly ( i.e- she sold the story to a newspaper ) that the “victim” had made the story up to make some money and further her modelling career. So Craig Charles lost 9 months of his life and very nearly his career because some woman decided to take advantage of the fact that she was his “friend”

The woman got a very nice wad of cash for selling the story to the paper, is this really a fair justice system?

I have to say that although the man gets on my nerves completely, I can’t blame John Leslie for what he’s currently doing by telling and selling his story to anybody and everybody who will listen..better yet..pay to listen. To look at it in a cold matter of fact way..he’s making up for lost revenue!

We’re all human, we all make mistakes..god knows, I’ve made enough of my own! But to have every single error scrutinised in public must be horrible..that said, if you put yourself out there in the public eye in the first place, I can see how people consider you to be an open target.

The irony of it all is that John Leslie will be forever portrayed as the victim- he has now become a household name, this will eventually make him an even bigger celebrity than he would ever have become.

Why do people find Ulrika attractive anyway? I always thought she was a bit of an overrated minger!

Bad Karma wrote:

I don’t find her attractive either.

Nor me. My mate’s mate shagged Lauren from Neighbours though.

This is just disturbing, you’ve moved from sex offenders to shagging the cast of Neighbours! :p