Guitars
Started by Neck_Freak (Guest) in Musicians (Gear, Tabs & Lyrics) on Wed, 12 July 2000 at 11:20
Brendon wrote:
Naboth, I think the general consensus of posters on this topic would agree with you. I know I certainly would. There’s certainly no reason to limit yourself to inferior equipment for the sake of creativity, since they it really has no bearing on it.
Posted on Wed, 19 July 2000 at 21:55
messiah wrote:
Let’s get this straight? To sound good? what the fuck are you talking about? the more you compare cars and motorcylces to guitars the more ridiculous you look and the more i feel the less you know what you are on about…
go to a guitar shop and play the same type of guitars and one is going to sound better than the other … same with amps… so what are you going to do next? picking them out with serial numbers… you see how dumb that sounds?
my point was i know what i’m capable off so does it matter what guitar i use to do what i want? ABSOLUTELY NOT. and please dont give no shit about walmart guitars any idiot can figure what will last long or what wont…
i stuck to what i said.. but what i find really offensive is people turning back and saying i can make any guitar sound good that is bullshit… this is something you pick up when your starting out .. you either give a fuck or you dont give a fuck.. you either care what you use or you dont… there are no two ways to it… i dont care what i use but nowhere did i say i like to use broken guitars but what i said was that i’ll use any as long as it works… there’s a big difference between the two..
and please dont give me this bullshit , many people freak out when they dont have thier exact same set up and many people think they’ll improve if they have the latest equipment … obviously the people about whom this is true are responding to my posts…
which brings me back to … if someone is true about ‘making any guitar sound good’ then a good answer to what i should buy would be ’ anything but make sure it’s not broken’ not fender this fender that…
the thing is that when someone asks this it gives some people to get their ego’s working out and talking big with brand names .. the naive questioner then goes ‘wow ’ and says this guy knows what he’s talking about but in reality they’re both full of shit.. it’s all about talking big…
creativity cannot be confined to brand names nor should you feel yourself limited if you dont have all that. (read that carefully nowhere have i said that you have to use broken instruments to be creative). that’s my main point. i’m sticking by it. if you wanna argue with that go ahead…
jimi hendrix used to repeatedly smash his guitars on stage .. he didnt care thats was why he was so good…no big deal what he did was because of what was inside him not because of a fucking fender stratocaster.. which makes me think that that’s the reason why they’re so many light weight guitarists out there today.. they confine themselves to and baby sit thier equipment and talk big… fucking get over it… it’s what i am capable of doing not which fucking guitar i’m using… end of story…
and go back and read what i said in my earlier posts i said ‘i can use any guitar to do what i want’ . i NEVER said i can ‘make any guitar sound good’. that’s a very dumb thing to say as the defintion of ‘good’ could be ‘bad’ to another. and most people who talk about how good they are are always the ones that are insecure as some are over here…
Posted on Wed, 19 July 2000 at 23:14
Brendon wrote:
The original poster made no mention of his playing ability, thus I am not going to simply tell him to ‘buy anything as long as it’s not broken.’ I’m not going to recommend that a first-time buyer purchase an inferior product, because the headaches caused by inferior quality will ruin the pleasure he’d get from it. A guitar is an investment. People who play tend to play every day. You don’t need to be a Rhodes Scholar to realize that if you’re going to use a certain piece of equipment every day you might as well buy a quality piece of equipment.
My first guitar was (and still is) a piece of junk Epiphone acoustic. The craftsmanshift is pretty poor, there’s a few nicks and dings in the wood and the bridge is starting to come loose. It served its purpose and I can still write nice music on it, but every time I go to the guitar store, I can’t help but pick up a nice Seagull or Takamine acoustic in order to appreciate the difference in quality.
A good guitar doesn’t make the player any better unless the player has a solid foundation to start with. And no matter what you think, neither I nor any of the original posters were trying to say anything to the contrary. Stop trying to pass off your opinion as being the only right one, especially when the people on this board directly answered a direct question.
Posted on Thu, 20 July 2000 at 00:34
messiah wrote:
once again your ignoring what i said. how about trying to answer my points? i’m not passing off my opinion as the only right one, if that’s what you think then it’s your insecurity showing, you want yours to be the only right one. you should go back and read what i said. once again my main points: i said it doesnt matter which guitar you use it has nothing to do with how well you can play it- its in you that matters not on the fucking guitar. and once again i never said use broken instruments etc (you wish i said that so that you could use it against me). if you are capable of something then the brand of the guitar becomes an absurdity. point made. then i said that dont think that just because you get all the latest equipment it’ll improve you as a player, obvioulsy for those who this is true they are responding to my posts. point made.
and who the fuck are you the one to talk about pleasure? i can turn back and say the battle is the pleasure( which it is).
and then i said you either care about equipment or you dont there are no two ways to it. it’s funny how people who care want to say they dont care. i dont even know which year my guitar was made in , no big deal.
so the main thing is what type of guitar you use has nothing to do with how well you are as a player or how well you could be. there is no relationship. it’s all about big talk ang ego exercises…
jimi hendrix use to repeatedly smash his guitars on stage he didnt care thats why he was so good.. it was in him that was magic not in the fucking fender stratocaster if you could understand this you wouldnt even be arguing with me as i never said you have to use broken guitars to be creative( something you wish i said so you could use against me)… all i said was what type of guitars you use has nothing to do with the magic( if you have it that is..) that is inside you… point made.
Posted on Thu, 20 July 2000 at 02:53
Sabotage wrote:
messiah,
I’m certainly not taken in by named equipment.
In actual fact ‘brands’ piss me off to some extent.
The name does help when it comes to
quality in some (maybe most) cases, but not always. I agree that.
My Bass is Fender. Best that I’ve tried and the most important
piece of kit.
My amp is home made. It sounds good to me.
My cab is Trace Elliot, which I got from a mate rather
than search out the name itself. It could have been anything
at this stage.
Posted on Thu, 20 July 2000 at 13:35
Power Chord Andy wrote:
if you want a half decent and affordable setup, u could do worse than try this, ive got an epiphone sg although i would kill for a gibson, put through a fender princetone 65 amp, not too expensive and gigable for smaller venues, also at the moment im using an electro harmonix big muff fuzz pedal for heavy stuff instead of channel switching, it sounds cool as fuck, everyone should go out and get their hands on a big muff
Posted on Sun, 30 July 2000 at 16:18
Jwas wrote:
I ‘ve got a Paul Reed Smith and I fuckin’ love
that guitar.It’s the best one you can get,and
if you want a guitar for a lifetime take one of
‘em.Sure there are lots of great guitars and also
a lot of trash,the best thing to do is to go into some
shops and try which one fits you best.
In amps I like Marshalls(Jcm 800)and the Hughes&Kettner
Tri-amp.
Posted on Thu, 19 October 2000 at 20:06
Jude the Obscene wrote:
If you are looking for the souind- THE SOUND- T H E S O U N D !
then go for a Gibson SG1 ran through a Torque T100R on a clean setting for excellent celan tone- and for distortion, link up a BOSS Xtortion XT2 pedal, and rip it up- You will not, cannot and shall not find a better tone this side of Marshall Stack w/SG1.
Oh yes indeedy do.
Posted on Sun, 24 December 2000 at 20:17
Idlevice2 wrote:
Just go and see what feels right at the shops, then buy that, or another model of that, or something that has been described as similar but better/cheaper depending. That said, check out Parker guitars, if you’ve got the money, because I don’t, and I want one! That said i’m very happy with my ‘GIBSON VOODOO SERIES FLYING V- LIMITED EDITION, NOT MADE ANY MORE’. Sorry, I like to broadcast that.
Posted on Wed, 23 June 2004 at 17:27
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