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Started by Christian

Anyone here who likes their stuff?

I bought Spineshank`s new one some time ago cause “Smothered” sounded promising. For some odd reason, I went back listening to the height of callousness, and (this happens fairly often to me) realized that some songs which I thought were not really good aren`t in fact that bad (Cyanide 2600 comes to mind). Now I think that it`s their best album; the two B-sides that were included in a special edition of it are also very good imho.
I finally decided to buy their first one, Strictly Diesel. I´d now rate this one as their second best; the new one has some rather weak songs on it ( Self-Destructive Pattern for example, the usual mixture of melodic groove and aggressivness doesn`t fit well together here I think).

As for Amen, I just downloaded some of their B-sides and stuff from the join or die album (sold only on the UK-tour),and that was surprisingly good. I hope they put out something new in the near future. Heard they`re broke, and had various personal problems (drummer + guitarist left).

Posted on Mon, 22 September 2003 at 16:04

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RobbyVDH wrote:

I like them as well… I have the “Height of Callousness” album from Spineshank which is pretty good…

And I saw Amen on Earect 2001 a few years ago and they rocked as well ;)

Posted on Mon, 22 September 2003 at 16:31

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smurftastic wrote:

I think I’m going to see Spineshank in a couple of weeks time (they are one of the bands on the Roadrage tour I think). Not sure I’d buy their albums coz it sounds like so much other stuff to me. But I think it’s good in a club situation so hopefully should be good live. If I like them live I’ll be more likely to buy their albums, probably.

As for Amen, not really heard any of their stuff so cant comment.

Posted on Mon, 22 September 2003 at 19:55

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Bad Karma wrote:

I haven’t heard many songs by Spineshank but they remind me a little of Fear Factory.

I liked some of the songs on Amens debut album its been a while since i listened to them.They have had a line up change Chaos is the only original member left now and they were dropped by Virgin Records they did record a third album but they can’t release it because of some legal problems.They did record a show on their last UK tour for a live DVD release.Where did you download the tracks from the Join Or Die album kaazalite or from a website?

Posted on Mon, 22 September 2003 at 20:58

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Christian wrote:

Spineshank are fans of Fear Factory, and from what I read their first Album was regarded in some way as a rip-off, which was kinda frustating for the band. I don`t know many Fear Factory songs so I can`t make a really qualified commment on that, but the album does indeed not sound very original (If I remember correctly, Fear Factory`s singer even makes a guest appearance on the last song). Though I think that`s not the most important aspect anyway when it comes to music. I appreciate if someone tries to be innovative, but that alone doesn`t make music good for me.

As for Amen, the first Time when I heard them I thought something like “Uh, sounds like Korn playing Punk”. Well, should be no surprise, after all, Ross Robinson was involved.

Posted on Tue, 23 September 2003 at 09:29

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

I have The Height of Callousness and Self-Destructive Pattern and I think they are both great albums. It took me a little longer to get into the new one, but I like it a lot now after listening to it a couple of times.

Strictly Diesel is still on my ‘to-buy list’.

Posted on Tue, 23 September 2003 at 13:39

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belfagor wrote:

I’ve seen Spineshank live but wasn’t a fan, I was actually dragged by a friend who likes them. I bought “The Height…” for five quid and it’s got some very good tracks. A lot of albums are on my TO-BUY-LIST but I’m broke :(

I went to see Amen at the Astoria a couple of years ago. You wouldn’t believe me, they were playing with JJ72. Er, not at the same time on the same stage..

Posted on Wed, 24 September 2003 at 19:28

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Bad Karma wrote:

belfagor wrote:

I went to see Amen at the Astoria a couple of years ago. You wouldn’t believe me, they were playing with JJ72. Er, not at the same time on the same stage..

I think that was part of an NME Brats tour,i think Starsailor and Alfie were also on that tour.

Posted on Sat, 27 September 2003 at 10:20

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Astral Blood wrote:

I’ve never really cared for Spineshank. I have friends who like them, though.

Amen are great. They’re one of the few newer bands I really like. And their live show is intense.

Apparently, Casey has rounded up some new members to fill the slots of Sonny Mayo who joined Hed PE and Shannon Larkin who is now playing drums for Godsmack. So apparently, there will be a new Amen record at some point. It’s just a matter of when.

Posted on Sun, 28 September 2003 at 12:53

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Patrik_H wrote:

I like amen, price of reality is a great song, and we have come…is a pretty cool album, they have good albums all round really.
I dont like spineshank, i dont really know why, i just think their rather boring, never made anything i really liked or anything.

Posted on Tue, 30 September 2003 at 21:49

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Distorted wrote:

yeah Amen are really good. Casey is the only original member left, the rest left after the band got dropped as they had no money and some of them have families/kids they need to support.
larkin now plays drums for Godsmack of all bands. Paul Fig (guitar) is in Bluebird, Sonny and Tumour are in some other band but can’t remember off hand which one.
Heard a rumour recently that Amen were picked up by Darren from SOAD for his new label and as far as i know they are working on stuff at the moment.
great band, pity they are getting rightly fucked by the system.

Posted on Wed, 1 October 2003 at 12:55

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belfagor wrote:

Bad Karma wrote:

I think that was part of an NME Brats tour,i think Starsailor and Alfie were also on that tour.

Yes it was, but at the time of the show I just didn’t know anything about it and it felt strange to see fans of Amen and fans of JJ72 together because they looked so different.
By the way, have Alfie released any new stuff (I swear I’ve seen a review only a couple of weeks ago) and anyone knows if it’s any good?

yeah I know they don’t have much in common with Spineshank…:p

Posted on Mon, 13 October 2003 at 21:48

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allroy wrote:

belfagor wrote:

By the way, have Alfie released any new stuff (I swear I’ve seen a review only a couple of weeks ago) and anyone knows if it’s any good?

They have a new album out called Do You Imagine Things?
I’ve only heard one song of it, Stuntman, which sounds really good, maybe a bit too much flower power atmosphere, but nice anyway.

Posted on Tue, 14 October 2003 at 06:23

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Distorted wrote:

Amen have a new album coming out soon (finally) and are about to head of on a US tour. Hopefully they’ll be back here soon enough though.

http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/fpengine.php/link/1/templateid … 1/menuid/1

Posted on Thu, 16 October 2003 at 14:29

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Bad Karma wrote:

I just found an Amen fansite with the Join Or Die album

you can download it here http://www.refuse-amen.fr.st/

and for some more rare Amen MP3’s check out their official site they have a free music campaign. http://www.comaamerica.com/index2.html

Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 19:30

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JSar666 wrote:

I’ve got the new Amen album on mp3 and it’s good.. I don’t like it as much as the self-titled or We Have Come For Your Parents, but it is better than Join Or Die. Maybe after a few listens it’ll grow on me. I didn’t even like the first one straight off.

Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 22:09

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Christian wrote:

Title: wohaa…

many thanks, I was looking for the stuff from Join or Die since I only got a few mp3s.

Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 18:38

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Bad Karma wrote:

The only new song i have heard is the single Californias Bleeding which i think is alright.Christian i was looking for Join Or Die for months i just found that site by accident.

Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 19:02

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Christian wrote:

The Ministry remix of Coma America kicks ass.

Otherwise the stuff from join or die that I`ve listend so far is decent, I agree that`s it`s not as good as the self-titled and we`ve come…

I like the title track and “resurection fixed nothing” much, but especially the latter could have benefited from a better production I guess.

Is it just me or does that song sound indeed a bit like T?`s Nausea?

Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 19:11

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Bad Karma wrote:

I bought Death Before Musick a few days and have been listening to it a lot,i think its a good album,its virtually a Casey Chaos solo album because he played all the instruments apart from the drums. and Casey sounds very pissed off.There were lots of rumours last week that Amen were going to split up because they missed a date on their UK tour.

Posted on Fri, 16 April 2004 at 12:39

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

:) It’s just Chasey Chaos, and he’s going to split up? ;)

Posted on Sat, 17 April 2004 at 10:58

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Bad Karma wrote:

HaHa :D

No not quite after Amen were dropped by Virgin one by one the members left leaving just Casey and he worked on the new album before the new line up of Amen got together.

The Japanese version of Death Before Musick has some extra tracks which can be downloaded here.

http://dj-fedital.net/missle/dbmjapan/index44.html

Posted on Sat, 17 April 2004 at 16:31

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