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#31

White Psycho wrote:

Crowdsurfing is all part of the gig! It is essential to the enjoyment of the gig!

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2000 at 19:01

#32

Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

Yeah, if you enjoy a broken nose, it is.

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2000 at 21:43

#33

Psychotherapy? wrote:

I go to concerts to enjoy the music. I can’t do that when some trottel decides to fly over me heed and issue me with a Doc Martento the temple. I’ve recently started punching upwards whenever people try to crowd surf on me, I won’t put up with that anymore.

Posted on Thu, 24 August 2000 at 17:53

#34

Therapeut wrote:

I am a crowdsurfer myself, I always get this strange feeling in the stumach at T? gigs, the last one being Rock Ternat where the Thera-dudes were headliner. I understand it may irritate some people but then again I don’t care much since I always stick to the golden rule of lifting my feet as high as I can so I can boot someone in the neck. Crowdsurfing is plain fun if you do it right for both you as for the girls & boys carrying you. I’ve had a lot of them in my neck as well so I know it sucks. As for those against moshing, no judgement there ‘cause it’s not my field, all I can do is quote Andy back in ‘93 at a Belgian gig: [announcing Teethgrinder] … let’s see you all pogo but ok safety first: old people, one by one at the door, people wearing a Nirvana t-shirt one by one at the door! This is called the grining of the teeth [you know the rest…].

Posted on Sat, 21 October 2000 at 13:22

#35

Therapeut wrote:

I am a crowdsurfer myself, I always get this strange feeling in the stumach at T? gigs, the last one being Rock Ternat where the Thera-dudes were headliner. I understand it may irritate some people but then again I don’t care much since I always stick to the golden rule of lifting my feet as high as I can so I can boot someone in the neck. Crowdsurfing is plain fun if you do it right for both you as for the girls & boys carrying you. I’ve had a lot of them in my neck as well so I know it sucks. As for those against moshing, no judgement there ‘cause it’s not my field, all I can do is quote Andy back in ‘93 at a Belgian gig: [announcing Teethgrinder] … let’s see you all pogo but ok safety first: old people, one by one at the door, people wearing a Nirvana t-shirt one by one at the door! This is called the grining of the teeth [you know the rest…].

Posted on Sat, 21 October 2000 at 13:22

#36

Therapeut wrote:

Doh, should have been: so I ‘CAN’T’ boot someone in the neck. I’m not a that big bastard :-)

Posted on Sat, 21 October 2000 at 13:24

#37

opalmantra wrote:

I think crowdsurfing is OK. As long as you do it the safe way.
Damn it’s fun. I think the timing is important as well. Make sure
that most people in the crowd actually SEE you, so no one gets hurt.
Anyway, If you’re in ‘da pit’ you must always keep in mind that you’re gonna get hurt. But I don’t mind the pain if the concert is
fucking great!

Posted on Sat, 21 October 2000 at 22:15

#38

Jude the Obscene wrote:

What are u all on???

Crowd surfing is very fun and great!
Look, I’m not a mindless thug, and I have seen situations get out of control, particularly at a One Minute Silence gig and, even worse, Sick of it all where some Skins decided a mosh would be good cover to beat up a black guy. In this circumstance, the band stopped and wouldnt play again until the skins got kicked out.
I am a big lad (6’ 2’ and 13 stone) and I am a pacifist- ive seen too much violence, but I love a good mosh and I love to surf. Stage-diving is a bit out of hand for me, I wouldnt do it personally, but wheres the fun of a gig if you cant let loose? Fair enough if you dont like surfers and dont wanna get hurt, just stay out of ythe pit! Its not too difficult you know, and most gigs ive seen have had two pits, thetame pit for you lot and the psycho pit, complete with punch-ups moshing and surfing, for the likes of me!

BANNING CROWDSURFING SUCKS! I thought Holland was liberal!

Posted on Sun, 31 December 2000 at 12:14

#39

Unbeliever wrote:

Well, to be honest I don’t really agree with you, but I don’t agree with MOJO either. I think crowdsurfing is ok, as long as everyone is nice and keeps the surfing within decent limits. I was at a Supergrass gig where it looked like as if there were more crowdsurfers than an actual crowd to carry them. Anyway, I think MOJO set these rules because they were partly bought up by a big American company. And I also agree with people who think crowdsurfers are annoying. Because they can be very annoying.

Posted on Sun, 31 December 2000 at 12:38

#40

Unbeliever wrote:

in some cases, they can be.

Posted on Sun, 31 December 2000 at 12:39

#41

deekoi wrote:

Mmmm I too am an avid crowdsurfer when I go to my one let out vent of the year, Reading Festival; but I’ve experienced being the person underneath, and so I’m always careful to lift feet up and not wear huge boots or anything. Moshing is fantastic, you could never ban it, it’s just kinda a natural reaction to a phat riff when you’re feeling good. I mosh everywhere, at home, at work, at college, in the high street etc, if there’s a good beat and I’m happy then why not?
BUT something I found out recently, which is a bit disturbing: Three people in England DIE from ‘moshing’ (as the broadsheets and tabloids alike write it, apparantly it’s a new craze) at gigs and venues to ‘heavy metal’.
There was a case in the Telegraph a while ago which is were I first read ‘bout this, sopme 17yr old had been on a few pills, drinking and speeding when he physically shook himself to death! D’uh! Of course he’s gonna fukn die if he does that! Don’t blame it on just moshing! Although I do understand about the Roskilde accident and what must have been terrifying, but those people diodn’t have so much of a choice as this one guy.
As far as violence goes, what most people call ‘slamming’, walking around swinging your fists etc.; that is something else you’re always gonna get. When Slipknot came on stage at reading, the vast majority of the 40,000 strong mosh pit were 16-17yr old guys, but were I was, just back from the front, they all looked big enough to look after themselves, and to be honest they shouldn’t have been so close if they can’t. There was on guy just next to me, dressed, like so many others, in a blue boiler suit and wearing a hockey mask. This guy was BIG, probably over 6’6” and built like an absolute mother of broadness, and he suddenly started to get violent with a few other guys who wanted some, but when he started throwing them into other members of the crowd, who had pretty much circled out of the way, me and my flatmat went in to take him down purposefully. I do not agree with violence but in this situation it was neede to stop this guy, we simple went over to him and _politly_ asked him to stop. He was not amused with us but he did stop as he should’ve.
At Rage however, there were so many people trying to get to the front that there was no other way of getting out than to crowdsurf. A couple of my smaller friends got lifted out, one of them had been knocked out and didn’t come round for a few minutes. There were people everywhere, and just behind the very front four or five people being pushed against the barriers, I was in a big line of people who just kept on falling over and over. There ws not much we could do about this and it was scary. However, everyone was aware of not only what was happening on stage but what was going on around them, and so when people were on the floor, they were generally picked up again very promptly. I actually got pushed over and fell on top a guy I went to primary school with and hadn’t seen for nine years.
Anyway, I’m sure you all have you’re own stories like this, so anyway, my opinion:
Crowdsurfind shouldn’t be banned, and neither should moshing, just make sure you’re aware of what’s going on, and don’t go in further if you don’t feel safe.

Posted on Sat, 3 February 2001 at 12:46

#42

Punkwak (Tijn) wrote:

i’ve been crowdsurfing the whole night.. No problemo.. :p

handgranates flying over my head but who cares..
there is a problem when misilles flying over my head..!!

cheers

Posted on Wed, 24 May 2006 at 21:49

#43

Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

when i went to see t? on friday night I had to duck when people where crowdsurfing it was rather scary i must say.

Posted on Mon, 29 May 2006 at 14:21

#44

Hanne wrote:

One of the reasons I don’t go to as many gigs as I would like to. Luckily Nottm Rock City banned it a few years ago and does throw people out for crowdsurfing, but still I often get the absolute shit kicked out of me when I go to a lot of gigs. It’s either stand at the back and see bugger all because I’m 5 ft ridiculous, or stand anywhere near the front or sides and end up with some wanker smacking me in the face or pushing me deliberately; I can hold my own pretty well but it’s the inconsiderate bastards who seem just to want to fight.

Whenever I go to gigs now I usually get to the barrier and a male friend stands behind me to protect from twats.

Posted on Mon, 29 May 2006 at 14:45

#45

Karl wrote:

Some really interesting view on here. Guess with being in my 30s now and having a family I don’t get to as many gigs as I used to, except T?, but there wasn’t any crowd surfing at Manchester on Saturday, saying that there was no security at the front so you would have been straight on the stage. The crowd surfers don’t worry me too much, as I am used to it being part of the occasion, but I don’t like the mosh pits, they are just fucking dangerous, even when you stay on the outside just trying to keep out of the way.
It was also good at a Slayer concert I was at a while back to hear Tom Araya say that if you see people go down , help them up.

I’ve never crowd surfed, and have only been pulled out once, during the Sep’s Chaos AD tour in Liverpool, now that was too much, felt like my ribs were caving in. I also agree with a lot of people who say the crowd surfing should be done for people who are ill. When I was younger and had a season ticket for the standing kop at Liverpool, the fans knew someone was ill and could get them down to the front for first aid quicker than the paramedics could cut threw the crowd.

As for stage diving, I would have loved to see this incident with Micheal’s attempt earlier in the tour, he wasn’t even tempted at Manchester

Posted on Tue, 30 May 2006 at 07:44

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