T? reference in Offspring review on Wall of Mouths

T? reference in Offspring review

Started by Knives in General Therapy? Topics

In a review of The Offsprings new album Splinter, are reviewer for Humo described a song as ‘starting with a mediocre Therapy?-riff’.

So T? are now used by reviewers as a standard for other bands to live up to. :D
I’m glad they get mentionned, even if it’s in some other band’s review.

Posted on Thu, 1 January 2004 at 16:46

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Tightrope Walker wrote:

You mean they get used as a standard for other bands to fall down to, right? It’s one of the most negative ways I ever saw T? get mentioned!

That’s a bad thing, y’know…

Cheerz,
TW.

Posted on Thu, 1 January 2004 at 17:55

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prisonbreaker wrote:

i saw the review to,
i think it’s kinda positive like knives said, the fact that there is something like a T?-riff and that some millionsellers can’t write such a riff isn’t that bad i think

Posted on Thu, 1 January 2004 at 19:44

mr self destruct wrote:

I agree with Tightrope Walker. It’s pretty fucking negative.

Posted on Thu, 1 January 2004 at 19:57

prisonbreaker wrote:

you must know that humo loves therapy? and that the part where the T? reference was in was in the part were the few hilights of that terrible album were reviewed, so maybe it’s a little bit pulled ou of its context

Posted on Thu, 1 January 2004 at 23:21

soul doubt (an) wrote:

If humo loves therapy? so much, why don’t ever do an interview, the last interview they did was in 2001! And I even doubt they made a review of high anxiety!

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 09:45

Denim Demon wrote:

they did, and it was a positive review

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 09:51

sister wrote:

i read the offspring-review as well, and the fact that they mentioned therapy? wasn’t meant negative in any way i think, not at all.
and the review of high anxiety was indeed positive - very positive!

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 12:57

soul doubt (an) wrote:

I must have missed it… :o

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 17:40

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prisonbreaker wrote:

you should check it out on the wildsite, it’s one of coolest HA reviews i ‘ve read

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 19:47

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

aagh!! where ‘s the review exactly?? I can’t seem to find it… :(

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 20:49

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sister wrote:

type “anxiety” in “zoeken” and click on the link - there you go!

Posted on Fri, 2 January 2004 at 21:05

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

soul doubt wrote:
If humo loves therapy? so much, why don’t ever do an interview, the last interview they did was in 2001! And I even doubt they made a review of high anxiety!

I’m taking it all back! Great review!!! Humo loves Therapy?! ;)

thanx Gie

Posted on Sat, 3 January 2004 at 23:13

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Tightrope Walker wrote:

Knives wrote:
mediocre Therapy?-riff’.

I’ll quote smaller portions then! There is absolutely NO WAY that this can be taken in any positive way, c’mon! Mediocre says it all.

That’s the problem with a lot of magazines (not that I care and that they probably can’t do anything about it), there never is any continuity. How often do you read a very positive article about a band recording an album and a few pages later in the same magazine in the review-section that album gets axed! Magazines are not filled by one author. Maybe the guy who wrote the Offspring review can’t stand the fact that his magazine has been so positive about T? all the years. He simply doesn’t like’em and this is a very funny and nice way of bullying his collegues!

Same (continuity) problem with - a bit off-topic I know - the oscars. How the hell can a movie get Best script, best actor and best director BUT not best picture??? I’m talking Pianist vs. Chicago here…

Cheerz,
TW

Posted on Tue, 6 January 2004 at 15:38

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mightyscoop wrote:

I don’t think that the quote in question could be taken in a negative way…the reviewer stated that it was like a mediocre Therapy? riff…

I very much doubt that he was implying that Therapy?’s riffs are in any way mediocre…As it wasn’t a Therapy? review…it was an Offspring review…

Therefore when he said that it was like a mdeiocre Therapy? riff, he obviously meant that the Offspring riff was a mediocre version of a riff that Therapy? would play…

Also, possibly implying that this massive band like Offpsring…that sell millions of albums and are very rich men…can only come up with what sounnds like a bad version of a discarded Therapy? riff…despite Therapy? being a much smaller band with hardcore fanbase…and therefore obviously more talented than the millionsellers

Or something like that

It makes sense in my head

Posted on Sat, 10 January 2004 at 18:55

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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

It made sense to me too, cause that’s exactly what I thought :)

Posted on Sat, 10 January 2004 at 22:50

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Isness wrote:

Exactly. I don’t think it’s saying a riff by medicore Therapy?, it’s saying a mediocre version of a Therapy? riff.
I think.

Posted on Sun, 11 January 2004 at 12:24

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Tightrope Walker wrote:

Well, this discussion is starting to get funny. I think it’s time to contact the guy who wrote the review…

I’m not even gonna explain why I think y’all wrong, because too me it’s too damn obvious (and I don’t mean in a arrogant way),

if most people take things written about Therapy? this way the band sure had a lot more positive press than I assumed. Hey, why not read through some ol’ NME’s, maybe I can find some more insults that I can see as a compliment all of a sudden, after this thread that is,

Cheerz,
TW

Posted on Mon, 12 January 2004 at 17:51

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Don't Call Me Honey wrote:

Tightrope Walker wrote:
Hey, why not read through some ol’ NME’s, maybe I can find some more insults that I can see as a compliment all of a sudden

easy now - you know the NME has never said a kind word about anyone who’s been around for more than five minutes (even if they were praising them to the high heavens for the first three).

with other magazines, some doubt, benefit of-type arrangement may yet be possible.

Posted on Mon, 12 January 2004 at 20:04

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Citizen Erased wrote:

Title: That’s me in the background on track 1!

So what do people actually think of Splinter then? Anyone else heard it?

Posted on Mon, 12 January 2004 at 20:24

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mightyscoop wrote:

No offence Tightrope Walker…but I think you missed the point of the review…it wasn’t written about Therapy?, it was written about The Offspring…it was stating that the riff was like a mediocre Therapy? riff…which isn’t a slur against Therapy?…in fact it’s probably a praise…as in the best that The Offspring could come up with was a riff that Therapy? would discard…as in Andy Cairns would think it was mediocre and bin it.

As much as I hate NME, they did, i think, quite a bit for Therapy? in the early days…They, if my memory serves me correctly, describe Therapy? as one of the most exciting and important indie bands since Nirvana and The Pixies in 1992…or something to that effect…But you can’t really blame NME…as they’ve all done it Kerrang, Metal Hammer, NME, Melody Maker, Select…etc…etc…They’ve all loved Therapy?…all hated Therapy?…and all been indifferent towards Therapy?…

Because at the end of the day, these magazines are business…it’s their job to sell magazines…and if that means ignore truly talented bands and praise “the next big thing” or whoevers cool at the time…and that’s what it takes to make big profits then they’ll do it…but i doubt Therapy? care…these guys are a band who made it through hard work and not because they dressed like The Strokes…and that’s something that we as fans should be proud of…the Therapy? guys never sold out…always made consistently fantastic albums…From hearing Nurse the first time…through buying troublegum on day of release…and then buying Infernal Love on the day of release…and being overwhelmed that this band were so truly amazing and awe-inspiring…to the fact that Andy Cairns donates mediocre riffs to The Offspring is even better

I think maybe thats the point…maybe people are too biased and can’t comprehend Therapy? making a mediocre riff…so therefore were offended by the piece…the review just proved to me that despite not recieveing mainstream and commercial success anymore…the band are still critically acclaimed

Posted on Mon, 12 January 2004 at 20:32

#22

motherh666 wrote:

I think this thing is simply a half-full/half-empty glass thing. Only the reviewer will (maybe) know what he meant. We shouldn’t concern ourselves with some jumped up music-“Journalist”. Fuck him either way :D

Posted on Tue, 13 January 2004 at 11:15

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sister wrote:

maybe to rephrase it in a simple way, i think this is what the reviewer meant:
therapy? have brilliant riffs
compared to therapy?, the offspring only have mediocre riffs

Posted on Sat, 17 January 2004 at 17:58

#24

Alex wrote:

An interesting, but slightly different T?/Offspring link.

Offspring are doing a UK/Irish tour soon.

With special guests.

My mate swears he heard on Dublin radio that the guests in Dublin will be Therapy?.

Anyone know if this is true?

DOes it apply to the whole tour?

NOt that I care, seeing how I live in Dublin…

Posted on Mon, 26 January 2004 at 22:10

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Citizen Erased wrote:

T? and Offspring? That would be a good night out. Have tickets for the London Offspring gig, but didn’t know they were playing Dublin - do you have a date? Might be able to get over there on work, but am guessing it’s not going to happen so really hope T? play the whole tour.

Posted on Mon, 26 January 2004 at 23:21

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

hoooo man that would be a wicked gig, seen offspring live and they kick arse, seen T? live and they kick arse. Shit, someones gonna get stomped big time. What the fuck am I talking about?

Posted on Tue, 27 January 2004 at 09:54

#27

Alex wrote:

Seen Offspring, but only at Reading - -never at their own headline gig.

The Dublin date is Mar 14

Posted on Thu, 29 January 2004 at 19:49

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Citizen Erased wrote:

Saw them at Reading in 99 and 01 - which years did you go, we may have been in the same crowd. Offspring seem to make a lot more of an effort to have a good time that certain other bands there.

Anyone any ideas who’s playing Reading this year?

Posted on Thu, 29 January 2004 at 22:46

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Reverend Savage? wrote: