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Started by Isness

FUCK this is a great song. Every time I listen to Infernal Love, I always end up having this track on repeat about five times.
I really like both the song in the first couple of minutes and the wonderfully insane noise improv at the end. Genius.
What’s the board consensus on the song?

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 19:22

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JSar666 wrote:

Great great great :)

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 19:41

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prisonbreaker wrote:

i especially like that part where they sing about San Francisco and the blue lamp disco or something like that and the guitars in the first part are also fantastic, very sonic youth IMHO

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 20:30

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Andy D (Andy) wrote:

I look at this song in sober light.
It’s not Die Laughing but it’s alright.

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 20:31

#4

prisonbreaker wrote:

:D nice one

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 20:32

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richboy wrote:

don’t know about 30 seconds - it’s always been my least favourite track of IL, along with misery. have to admit i like it at the end though when it goes a bit chaotic and the bass line soars. like the drumming too. i can’t help feeling the song is a bit throwaway compared to the rest of the album (same with misery) though

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 21:55

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Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Epilepsy is my least favourite song of Infernal Love.

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 23:22

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Isness wrote:

It’s my joint favourite on Infernal Love, along with Jude the Obscene.
Loose is my least favourite.

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 23:29

#8

Shuff wrote:

Title: Loose is great!

Loose is a great song. It rocks, and it’s got that irony that only T? can do so well.

I never understood why that song never became a mega-hit. At the very least, it should have became a T? staple… but now it’s been long forgotten.

Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 23:59

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motherh666 wrote:

I agree with ehmm Shuff. Loose rocks the album to hell and back. YEAH!

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 08:44

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allroy wrote:

Totally agree with Shuff. In my ears, Loose is the outstanding track on IL, maybe ‘coz it must’ve been written at Troublegum times for they already played it live on the Troublegum tour.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 09:05

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Citizen Erased wrote:

30 seconds has a misleading title, bad Therapy?!

Misery & Jude would be my favourites.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 10:57

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Alan wrote:

I like the first 2 minutes of “30 Seconds” especially the “how did we get from the blue lamp disco to cracking up in San Francisco” line - classic Andy Cairns poetry!

But, I don’t like the 3 minutes of repetition that follows it… it just drags a bit.

I think the song with the most potential on Infernal Love was “Me vs You”. If you listen to live recordings of it from the Troublegum tour, it was already a classic. But they changed it slightly / slowed it down for the album, and it just didn’t work as well. It’s still a great song, but could have easily been THE song that people remember Therapy? by.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 11:25

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scotdamn wrote:

30 seconds really rocks especially the live version…

Buggered by a priest when you were seven years of age
The age of understanding came with blood and semen stains

brilliant

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 13:55

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Isness wrote:

Loose just seems… I dunno, annoyingly cheesy. I remember my friend having a copy of the single years ago, and never liked the song. Doesn’t fit on the album, either…

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 14:01

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RobbyVDH wrote:

Alan wrote:

I think the song with the most potential on Infernal Love was “Me vs You”.

I totally agree with you on this one… hearing it live during the Troublegum shows was brilliant but the version that appears on IL is quite disappointing.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 16:50

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richboy wrote:

me vs you is one of my favourite therapy? tracks - becasue it is so damn haunting and moody. and the lyrics are quite interesting…

what was the original like? the thing with it is it is so different to other therapy? tracks. if the original was more in their traditional style i don’t think i would have liked it as much.

it happens often that the first thing you hear is the favourite - a bit like with blur songs that i heard live first - ‘advert’ and ‘popscence’. to me they sound so much better than on the records. ‘it moved’ by joyrider was another one. still, if i’d heard them on record first it might’ve been different.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 17:05

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motherh666 wrote:

Just listened to Moment of Clarity there and I’m thinking of changing my earlier decision. the drumming onit is wall-melting and the lyrics are sweet.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 17:35

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efilnikufesin wrote:

Title: Infernal love

Just being reminded of all the cool songs on this album, i must re-purchase it tomorrow. A friend borrowed it because he said he liked Diane so much - he listened to it on headphones repeatedly when he went to bed at night! i’m starting to think he must some kind of serial killer.
I think this would be my second favourite album- wonderful mix of styles and songs, i think 30 seconds would be the most lively of the songs , if that makes sense , it has a lot of punky energy to it.Would Be an excellent moshing song.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 20:07

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Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Wasn’t Me VS You called This Disease during the Troublegum-tour?

My favourites of IL are Moment Of Clarity, Bowels Of Love, Bad Mother & Me VS You.

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 21:00

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3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

@ scotdamn: i agree

still, my fav. IL song is Bad Mother: “it’s a beautiful day, but I don’t see it that way, the sky’s too bright…”

talking about AJ Cairns’ poetry…

Posted on Thu, 5 February 2004 at 21:05

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Alan wrote:

richboy wrote:

me vs you is one of my favourite therapy? tracks - becasue it is so damn haunting and moody. and the lyrics are quite interesting… what was the original like?

The original had no cello on it. Every time they played it, Andy changed the lyrics slightly. Basically the overall tempo of the song was a little faster and more purposeful, aggressive and direct if you know what I mean? It was still very much haunting and moody, maybe even more so!

They did a fucking killer version of it at Reading 94.

Posted on Fri, 6 February 2004 at 08:20

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tokaarme wrote:

On Loose I specially fancy the part where Andy is singing “…Maybe you’re still lonely, but I love you, you’re my best friend..” The “high-end” on that sentence gives me *shivers*..

When IL was released I listened only that for couple of months. I totally forgot all my other albums and consentrated on IL; it was (still is!) soooo fuckin’ great..

Bad mother, Stories, Loose, A moment of clarity, Jude the obscene, etc.. you name it; they’re all masterpieces.. No weak links on that album!

Posted on Fri, 6 February 2004 at 11:43

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Cactus wrote:

30 sec has some of the lyrics from Human Mechanism repeated in it doesnt it? ‘I can screw my head back on’ etc. Always thought that was interesting for some reason. I like the whole album but have to defend Epilepsy, it seems to get slagged off a bit, its not my fave but I do think its in the classic T? killer opening track tradition, its a pretty weird song, hard to pin down really… also love the bit where Fyfe’s drums come back in, really manic drum fill… rocking!

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2004 at 13:10

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Isness wrote:

Mmm, I agree. I really like Epilepsy.

Posted on Wed, 11 February 2004 at 21:34

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