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Started by Morlock in General Therapy? Topics

When Andy mentioned that Graham suggested sounding like the Strokes or Radiohead, I kinda wondered if suggestions like these are what inspired the line

“But I’m scared of giving up and being a psychedelic peace creep”

You know, I always had that Radiohead association while listening to that line (I am a big Radiohead fan), so it just clicked when I read Andy saying that.

Thoughts?

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 07:46

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Kyle Bovine (Kevin Boyle) wrote:

when and where did andy say that graham suggested that??
was it in an interview or something??

to be honest, it would be very difficult for therapy to sound like radiohead or the strokes, its a completely different sound. and i dont want therapy to change!!!

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 08:34

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mr self destruct wrote:

I don’t see why you associate that line with Radiohead when a ) their music isn’t psychadelic and b) they’re not “peace freaks”?

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 12:23

#3

White Psycho wrote:

I can see what he means, radiohead are big into peace protests, they marched on anti-iraq stuff. Thom Yorke was in a march to a nuclear plant to protest

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 12:48

#4

tokaarme wrote:

Thom is creep - maybe there’s the connection :D

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 17:54

#5

mr self destruct wrote:

White Psycho wrote:

I can see what he means, radiohead are big into peace protests, they marched on anti-iraq stuff. Thom Yorke was in a march to a nuclear plant to protest

Thom is anti-militarism and anti-imperialism, but he ain’t a pacifist. There are shitloads of ‘threatening’ lyrics in Radiohead songs.

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 18:45

#6

Citizen Erased wrote:

There’s 5 people in Radiohead, T? went from 4 to 3, so I think they’re moving in the opposite direction. Lose one more and they could be Milla Vanilla/Kylie & Jason/Chas & Dave/any other duo you care to think of…

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 19:07

#7

mr self destruct wrote:

Citizen Erased wrote:

Milla Vanilla

Milli Vanilli, you buffoon!

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 19:37

#8

Morlock wrote:

http://www.salzburg.com/jugend/musik02/stories/therapy.html

It’s in German, but here is the article where Andy says it.

Also, the “creep” reference. I don’t say that this is a definite Radiohead line, but it always reminded me of Radiohead.

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 20:16

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allroy wrote:

This is the passage from the link Morlock posted:
Für den früheren Mann hinter dem Schlagzeug, den „Karrieristen“ Graham Hopkins, findet Cairns keine lobenden Worte. „Er fragte, ob wir nicht wie Radiohead klingen können oder wie The Strokes.“ Hopkins habe die ganze Zeit versucht, cool zu sein. Darum gehe es bei Therapy? aber nicht, die Band ziehe seit langem ihr eigenes Ding durch. „Wir wollen uns nicht wie andere Leute kleiden oder Musik wie sie machen.“

A rough translation:
Cair has no words of praise for former drummer and “careerist” Graham Hopkins:
“He asked whether we couldn’t sound like Radiohead or The Strokes.” Hopkins tried to be sool all the time. But Therapy? is not about that, the band’s doing their own thing for ages. “We don’t want to dress like other people or makmusic as they do.”

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 21:04

#10

Isness wrote:

Kyle Bovine wrote:

i dont want therapy to change!!!

Even though they change their sound (sometimes drastically) from album to album?

Posted on Thu, 21 October 2004 at 21:14

#11

mr self destruct wrote:

allroy wrote:

Hopkins tried to be sool all the time.

I don’t know, that Hopkins, always trying to be sool…guy didn’t deserve to ever play in T?

Posted on Fri, 22 October 2004 at 06:14

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Kyle Bovine (Kevin Boyle) wrote:

Isness wrote:

Even though they change their sound (sometimes drastically) from album to album?

No, what i mean is that i wouldnt want Therapy to change just for the reason to stay with the ‘in’ bands…
The way therapy change their sound from album to album is great, but to change their sounds to be like the critically acclaimed bands of the moment is well, selling out.
But thankfully i couldnt see therapy becoming like the strokes or radiohead, or more particularly like the many shitty pop-punk bands around e.g Good Charlotte

Posted on Fri, 22 October 2004 at 23:53

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Muskeg (T.M. O.M) wrote:

Therapy? have arguably released 6 TOP NOTCH albums

Troublegum
Infernal Love
Suicide Pact
Semidetached
High anxiety
Nane

Radiohead ?

:rolleyes: well, bends and ok computer are good, hail to the thief is alright and amnesiac is utter shite.

Nobody can tell me that amnesiac is anywhere near as good as Bends or Ok Computer because no matter how much you like Radiohead, that album sucks. END OF.

Posted on Mon, 25 October 2004 at 19:37

#14

sister wrote:

you forgot Kid A, which is good too imho

Posted on Mon, 25 October 2004 at 19:53

#15

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

*cough* Pablo Honey is the only decent album they’ve ever done. *cough*

Posted on Mon, 25 October 2004 at 20:20

#16

Isness wrote:

I love Kid A. Was a big fan of the others for a while (except The Bends, which I’ve always hated). Now I can’t really be bothered with them. But I still love Kid A.

Posted on Mon, 25 October 2004 at 21:34

#17

motherh666 wrote:

Wait a minute people. What are you doing?!?! This is turning into a Radiohead thread. So I’ll keep it going:

And I’ve always liked The Bends a lot. :D

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 07:47

#18

MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:

Let’s try to keep discussing about Therapy? becoming Radiohead in a civilized way… (?) ;)

I think we can figure out what way Graham wanted T? to go by listening to Halite’s first album… No offence, but that is totally crap, music that you can hear in elevetors, absolutely no meat’n’bones in it.

I just realised that it was good that Graham left if that would have been the direction he’ll would like T? to lead in… It’s good that Andy & Michael has brains.

Don’t get me wrong I USED to love Radiohead, OK Computer is a masterpiece but my opinion is that they lost the plot after Kid A…

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 08:04

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allroy wrote:

I just rediscovered Radiohead with Hail To The Thief. I also don’t like Kid A and Amnesiac.

But it’s good that T? aren’t going their way and have averted that by parting company with Graham. If you have musical differences with some members of the band (it seems to have been the same with Martin) it’s better if the ‘less important’ ones (when it comes to songwriting) leave just to remain true to your style.

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 08:09

#20

Isness wrote:

MarkoJii wrote:

I think we can figure out what way Graham wanted T? to go by listening to Halite’s first album… No offence, but that is totally crap, music that you can hear in elevetors, absolutely no meat’n’bones in it.

I didn’t think it was all that bad, to be honest. That said, I’m not that huge a “rock” fan. I’d love for Therapy? to do an album most similar to Infernal Love next, I suppose… loads of weird bits, slow tracks, electronic sections etc.

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 12:06

#21

Citizen Erased wrote:

Never that keen on Kid A or Hail to the Thief, but really quite like Amnesiac.

I’m so misunderstood :(

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 17:11

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sonofjaguare wrote:

Isness wrote:

I love Kid A. Was a big fan of the others for a while (except The Bends, which I’ve always hated). Now I can’t really be bothered with them. But I still love Kid A.

Wow how can you hate The Bends?I think they lost it after OK Computer but then again I liked the harder edged Radiohead.I bought Kid A,didn’t buy Amnesiac and got Hail To The Thief and can’t listen to it.Their turning into another REM and that to me is very boring…but hey it’s my opinion…

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 20:16

#23

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Well I like REM, Radiohead as well as Therapy?

Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 20:44

#24

Isness wrote:

sonofjaguare wrote:

Wow how can you hate The Bends?

One of them most hideously dull albums I’ve ever heard. Really uninspired melodies, flat production, average arrangements. Doesn’t do anything for me.
I don’t think they lost it after OK Computer. I don’t think they “had” it before then to lose. They lost it with the release of Hail To The Thief, which is a hideous mess of a record.

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 17:39

#25

mr self destruct wrote:

Isness wrote:

One of them most hideously dull albums I’ve ever heard. Really uninspired melodies, flat production, average arrangements. Doesn’t do anything for me.
I don’t think they lost it after OK Computer. I don’t think they “had” it before then to lose. They lost it with the release of Hail To The Thief, which is a hideous mess of a record.

Man, this has to be a wind-up!

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 18:11

#26

Citizen Erased wrote:

Andy doesn’t have a wonky eye.

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 19:12

#27

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Yes but he’s shaving his ‘tash and forever changing his image is concerning :D

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 20:14

#28

Citizen Erased wrote:

andys gibson sg wrote:

Yes but he’s shaving his ‘tash and forever changing his image is concerning :D

If he showed that he’d shaved something else, I’d be more concerned…

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 20:56

#29

sonofjaguare wrote:

Isness wrote:

One of them most hideously dull albums I’ve ever heard. Really uninspired melodies, flat production, average arrangements. Doesn’t do anything for me.
I don’t think they lost it after OK Computer. I don’t think they “had” it before then to lose. They lost it with the release of Hail To The Thief, which is a hideous mess of a record.

To each their own…

Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 22:32

#30

AdamNewcastle wrote:

I’ve never quite understood Radiohead; where is the logic in making music that makes your audience want to kill itself? Surely that is counter-productive, not to mention irresponsible.

Sorry folks, but I’ve heard a good few of Radiohead’s records and I’m yet to hear a good one.

Paranoid Andriod and Airbag had bitchin’ riffs but they really should sack that whining twat of a singer.

Posted on Fri, 29 October 2004 at 20:56

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