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Theo van Gogh was shot…

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Started by Flo in Chit-Chat

Theo van Gogh was a Dutch film maker who was also very direct (sometimes very rude) about basically everything, also about Muslims and their beliefs.

He was stabbed and shot to death on Tuesday by a Muslim man who thought that Theo had to shut up about the Islam.

Theo was rude about muslims but he didn’t deserve to die, everybody is entitled to have their opinion, that is democracy…

It is so wrong to kill somebody just because you don’t like his/her opinion. You can argue or shout at each other but you can never kill someone…

Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 19:31

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Citizen Erased wrote:

I suspect that most Muslims will, despite what they think about his films, be pretty outraged about (presumably) someone doing this supposedly in the name of their religion. At least I hope they think that…

Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 19:35

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RobbyVDH wrote:

It’s a sick world :(

Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 19:41

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Flo wrote:

Theo van Gogh was not a rascist or something, Actually I didn’t even like him that much but he liked to shock people.

Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 19:46

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allroy wrote:

You just show what democracy is about, to stand up for someone regardless of your feelings towards him, just becaus he deserves it for the benefits of free speech.
Respect.

Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 22:23

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Ronald wrote:

I live in the Netherlands, in the city centre of Rotterdam amongst loads of foreigners,peoople who look different from me, have other beliefs than me and shit, but I refuse to become racial after this murder…but you can feel the tension in the streets…sick world indeed!

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 03:19

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marja (sinner) wrote:

Citizen Erased wrote:

I suspect that most Muslims will, despite what they think about his films, be pretty outraged about (presumably) someone doing this supposedly in the name of their religion. At least I hope they think that…

a fundamentalist will think the murderer did a great job. But I hope there are more moderate muslims out there.

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 11:07

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3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

This killer was an extremist, with probably no idea at all what the Koran says about killing people. If he had been a real Muslim he wouldn’t have killed Theo van Gogh during the Ramadam.

I really hope that this brutal murder on an artist will open the eyes of many people. We must never tolerate that anyone gets killed because of what he stands for, no matter what their ideas are.

Like Flo I often disagreed with van Gogh’s ideas, but I will always defend the right of free speach. More now than ever!

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 12:08

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3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

What I just realised; the three books that caused most dead people, oppression, torture, poverty, persecution and misery are the torah, the bible and the koran.

Still, I’m against book burning.

Religion itself is harmless, untill you start using it in an irrational way by saying that your religion is the only true one and if you don’t believe it either you should be destroyed.

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 19:00

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Citizen Erased wrote:

There is enough religion in the world to make men hate each other, but not enough to make them love each other.

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 20:36

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3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

You said it man, and it makes my heart bleed, even though I’m not religious myself. Religion causes a lot of harm, almost as if the devil’s behind it.

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 20:40

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Citizen Erased wrote:

3ddo-on-the-balcony wrote:

You said it man, and it makes my heart bleed, even though I’m not religious myself. Religion causes a lot of harm, almost as if the devil’s behind it.

<embarrassed> Actually, it was the devil that said that, in Angelheart, um…

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 20:42

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3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

You mean the movie with Mickey Rourke and Robert de Niro?

Posted on Thu, 4 November 2004 at 20:55

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Citizen Erased wrote:

That’s the one. Read an interview with T? once where the writer said that she thought Michael looked like he looked through Mickey Rouke’s eyes in Angelheart - have no idea what she was on about then, as hadn’t seen the film at that time, and still don’t, although did quite like it when I finally did see it.

Posted on Sat, 6 November 2004 at 12:27

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