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Der Untergang

Just went to see it and christ all crapping mighty its a good film. Recommend it entirely. Helps if you speak German though. Very powerful, moving film.

Posted on Sun, 16 January 2005 at 23:17

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allroy wrote:

Bruno Ganz really scares you as Hitler. he’s absolutely brilliant.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 00:18

Divers (Simon) wrote:

I’ve heard about this Film but sadly I have problems with speaking English let alone another language and If subtitles are added then that fucks me up worse. It’s a shame as i miss out on some good films. Maybe i should get my Cousin to translate do you think it’s worth it?

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 01:19

allroy wrote:

It’s definitely worth it. But your cousin would have a lot of work to do. ;)

For those of you who don’t know what this is all about: Downfall

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 07:19

Divers (Simon) wrote:

He’s a translater in the army so he is quite good at it i’ll make him earn his money, if it’s worth watching then he will have no choice.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 08:10

zipless wrote:

One of the best movies I’ve seen lately. Wasn’t too keen in the first place regarding all the critics. But it was GREAT. Bruno Ganz - what an actor. The bloke playing Goebbels was brilliant as well - scary.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 10:40

motherh666 wrote:

I thought the cast was amazing. The Goebbles Family, Hitler and Braun, Speer and some of the Generals were excellent in it. I can see an Oscar in line for this movie.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:04

zipless wrote:

An Oscar? It would deserve nothing but an Oscar. What category? It would be “best foreign film” or something, can’t see it making in one of the “major” ones…

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:25

allroy wrote:

zipless wrote:
It would be “best foreign film”

That’s what it’s nominated for.

By the way, thanks for Saints giving us Kasey Keller.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:28

jimmy wrote:

is this film out on dvd in the uk, does anyone know? cos i couldnt see it on amazon and its not on at my local cinema, when did it come out?

im off to see ray tonight as in ‘ray charles’
it looks quite good and i dont have to pay woo hoo!!!!

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:37

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allroy wrote:

The German dvd will be out March 15th, so be patient.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:43

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jimmy wrote:

allroy wrote:
The German dvd will be out March 15th, so be patient.

oh i am a patient man indeed!!!

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:47

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allroy wrote:

You’re at therapy(?) right now, so you must be a patient. ;)

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 11:52

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jimmy wrote:

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:00

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up_in_flames (Tom) wrote:

great movie, brilliant actors. Some of them even looked like the characters they played. bruno ganz as hitler is just amazing: the way he looks, moves and speaks: one could believe it’s the real one.

just one point of criticsm: if you’re not too familiar with history one could easily be tricked into feeling sympathy for the greatest villans in world history.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:15

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motherh666 wrote:

Thats the point though. It was almost two people.
Adolpf Hitler, the caring, quite charming older man and Der Führer, the crazy, jew-hating warmongerer.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:21

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allroy wrote:

This is what I like about it, Hitler depicted as a monster with a human touch, way better than the ususal black and white characterizations.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:31

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motherh666 wrote:

Absolutely. That’s why it is so much more believable. After all he was still human as were all of them. Screwed up? Yes, but noone is through and through evil. Everyone has something redeeming.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:50

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motherh666 wrote:

Screwed up might be an understatement :rolleyes:

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:51

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jimmy wrote:

motherh666 wrote:
Screwed up might be an understatement :rolleyes:

sure, the man had ‘issues’

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 12:52

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zipless wrote:

allroy wrote:
By the way, thanks for Saints giving us Kasey Keller.

Welcome mate, you want anyone else? Not sure, but Keller was still attached to Spurs? Or maybe a free agent? We just bought Quashie from Pompey. There will definately be some “issues” at the end of the month when the scum gets thrashed at StMary’s. Looking forward to it. A special no-go zone will be reinstated by the coppers again.

What happened to Jörg Stiel? I know he left the national squad, wasn’t sure about Borussia… not too bad a keeper, brilliant character:D

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 18:51

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motherh666 wrote:

How did we get from the fall of Nazi Germany to football?

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 19:25

#22

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

motherh666 wrote:
How did we get from the fall of Nazi Germany to football?

The usual: via allroy.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 21:49

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zipless wrote:

I know, I know, Allroy was thanking me as a Saint for their new goalkeeper Kasey Keller:rolleyes:

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 22:10

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allroy wrote:

This thread’s entitled Downfall, so I guess two people supporting teams fighting relegation shso talk about football here.

To cut it short: Keller belonged to the Scum, but we got him as a free agent. I think, Jörg Stiel retired completely from football though I’m not sure about it.

Posted on Mon, 17 January 2005 at 22:40

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motherh666 wrote:

HOOCH! He’s doing it again! Make him stop. :(

Posted on Tue, 18 January 2005 at 08:45

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allroy wrote:

It was just to finish that digression, Seb.

By the way, this is chit-chat. You’re even supposed to go off topic here. :p

Posted on Tue, 18 January 2005 at 08:57

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote: