Wall of Mouths

Yeah, I know what you mean. I’ve no idea if you’re right, though.
I’m going to be spending the next week checking the calendar to see if it’s saturday yet. ;)

I’m pretty sure that the Face of Boe’s secret isn’t unveiled until next season. RTD said that when they knew they’d get a third series, he took something out of episode one, to save until then. So I’m guessing it’s whatever Boe was going to tell the Doctor.

Good point about the cop-out at the end of last season though. I hope this all has a decent resolution.

hmmm. thing is, i have this horrible unshakeable feeling that torchwood is going to be absolutely crap. did you see confidential tonight..? it didn’t fill me with confidence. :o

that bit on the website saying “she’s not rose tyler, not any more” was a paraphrased line from tonights episode. roses mum said it to her when she was saying all that stuff about how she’s changed and blah de blah. as to how she’ll change, given that there are cybermen involved, maybe she’ll end up as a cyberman somehow. in that case then she could always come back somehow (i.e the doctor in the 4th new series comes across the cybermen again and somehow works out that rose is one and does something to get her back). but i agree with what bad karma said, i don’t think she’ll be properly dead, and if she is, they’ll find a way to get her back somehow (if piper is still interested in doing it). RTD obviously knows how to make things emotional… as far as i can see there is absolutely no reason for jackie tyler to be in these last two episodes other than to watch her daughter inevitably come to some kind of “end”.

bearing in mind that a lot of the viewing audience of these new series are young, it’ll be strange to see how the next series works given that the two original main actors (ecclestone and piper) will have gone.

still, i think tennant is the far superior doctor. ecclestone got on my nerves a bit with his over acting all the time. and he had big ears.

Haha, yeah, I did notice that. Made it a weird experience. (When you said ‘the Eastenders theme’, for a moment I thought you meant that the music was playing, too! :D:o)
In that terrible Children in Need special years ago, the Doctor went to Albert Square. Now _that’s_ fucked up.

As for the quote on the website, I did think of the conversation with her mum, but I wasn’t sure if those words were actually spoken(?). If it’s only paraphrased, then I’d have guessed the line would come up properly later on.
The Doctor’s had loads of comapanions, and a few have died, but none of them have ever come back from the dead (unless you count the Paul McGann movie). Doesn’t mean it can’t happen now, of course.

I think the ‘death’ is going to be more symbolic than anything, a la the conversation with her mum. ‘She’s not Rose Tyler anymore.’ Have you heard the other rumour about what happens to her? It’s really implausible, (but then I didn’t believe the Daleks would be in this episode either), and might be a spoiler if it’s true.

Lol, yeah, ok. I was thinking of the original series. His death/resurrection is very much like Grace’s and Lee’s in the Movie.

well it’s all over now. i thought it was a good way to end the series. very very emotional, especially at the end. but then again, i am a sissy.

i liked the idea of the genesis ark being a prison ship. i was wondering what the hell was going to be in there and then when tennant said the line about “time lord technology… it’s bigger on the inside” it became evidently clear that it was going to be full of daleks.

how come tracy ann oobermans character was fighting against the cybermen even when she was turned into one?

and please please don’t tell me that that was ACTUALLY catherine tate at the end.

right, well see you at christmas then.

Misanthropologist wrote:

Oh, and I loved the way the Daleks were basically taking the piss out of the Cybermen

yeah, that was good actually… “you are only superior in that you are better at dying” or something like that :)

and the other bit was something like:

cyberman “you believe you can defeat the cybermen army with 4 daleks?”
dalek “we could defeat you with one”… classic stuff. :)

not_that_kind_of_guy wrote:

cyberman “you believe you can defeat the cybermen army with 4 daleks?”
dalek “we could defeat you with one”… classic stuff. :)

And then the follow up to that, where Rose remarks that the Daleks aren’t bothered by a planet full of Cybermen, but with the Doctor here, they’re scared.
Again: :cool:

Why is she working at Touchwood? What is so special about the shopping centre in Solihull…?

I have never seen a single episode of the new Doctor Who, since it came back, and I saw the last half of this one and thought they’d done a fairly good job. Still…flying daleks?! NO!!!!

Fatboy: The full story for Love and Monsters goes:
Blue Peter runs a competition to create a monster. Some eight year old wins with the Absorbaloff. Peter Kay writes to RTD and says, ‘I like Doctor Who, can I be in it?’ RTD says ‘sure, ok, why not, it’s not as if I have a whole nation of real actors queuing at the door for their chance. You can be the fan in this episode coming up.’ Mr Kay replies: ‘Fuck that. I want to be a monster.’ RTD says ‘ok, you can be this Absorbaloff thing.’ The end.
So you see, it was all very well thought out, and done for the best of artistic reasons. ;) Still, I did actually quite enjoy that episode (except for the end… :eek: )

Bad Karma wrote:

I thought it was a brilliant episode apart from the last ten seconds(i hate Catherine Tate i don’t find her funny at all so i’m not really that bothered about the next Christmas special).

Just read the first paragraph of this, it made me laugh:
http://tachyontv.typepad.com/waiting_for_christopher/2006/07/bothered.html

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i wonder if all the Cybermen were sucked in as well because not all of them were from the alternate universe what happened to the one’s like Tracy Ann Ooberman’s character that are from Rose’s earth?

Yeah, that’s a good point. Unlike the escaping Dalek, I’m not sure if it was a plot ole, or deliberate way of leaving it open for the Cybermen to come back. Still don’t know why we can’t just have ‘our’ Cybermen, though.

Dennis: Flying Daleks: Yes! Would have been nice to see some Dalek Hoverbouts, though (those one-Dalek miniature spacecraft/platforms) They’re cool.

You’re certainly not alone, and I don’t blame you. Was that episode any good? Arguably no. Did I enjoy it? Yup. :)

Hmm, yeah. I realy liked it, mostly, and nothing was as bad as Boomtown from last year, but there was slightly more sub par stuff, I think. Naturally I’ll be buying the box set when it comes out, though. ;)
Someone needs to give RTD a slap, though.

sorry to drag this thread back up, but has anyone seen torchwood yet? i think the first two episodes have been rather good. certainly better than i expected anyway…

Unfortunately freeview isn’t available where i live so i have to wait until BBC2 show Torchwood on wednesdays.I thought the first two episodes were alright.I enjoyed the two girls kissing :D, i liked the references to the Doctor especially the severed hand.I think Torchwood will get better as the series continues, John Barrowman was great again as Captain Jack.