#1
motherh666 wrote:
I think the result last night took the fight out of them :)
No just kidding, good thing obviously. I hope they mean it. But there will be a long way to go still.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 14:14
#2
mr self destruct wrote:
One less group of people trying to blow up another in this world has to be a good thing.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 14:14
#3
McKekS wrote:
that’s a good news, definitely. hope all of their activists will follow the guideline.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 14:36
#4
Dermot (The Derm) wrote:
motherh666 wrote:
I think the result last night took the fight out of them :)
The football thread was nestling nicely in the lower echelons of this page and you had to go and bring it up :mad:
;)
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 14:42
#5
Tubthumper (Scott) wrote:
You know, it sounds awful but to be honest, something good has come from the London bombings. I myself believe that they have influenced the decision of the IRA to put down arms because of the way in which the IRA have been compared to Al-Qaeda.
The IRA obviously feel that their cause can be fought without the use of needless violence, after seeing the way in which the country has pulled together to fight back at terrorism.
I’ve rambled enough, but all in all, it’s great to see a move like this.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 14:48
#6
motherh666 wrote:
Dermot, sorry I could not resist :D
It makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the British goverment going after the IRA a bit harder. I also heard the US were not going to take any shit from them either anymore last week. Is this a genuine want for end to hostilities, or are they just shitting it?
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 15:12
#7
Lola* wrote:
motherh666 wrote:
I also heard the US were not going to take any shit from them either anymore last week.
i hate the way the get so involved in EVERYTHING…
hope this is for real though…
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 15:16
#8
Jello Biafra wrote:
This decision has nothing to do with the london bombings or the US. This was coming anyway the IRA were always going to disarm. It’s a good day for the people of ireland. it is significant in the wake of the bombings though.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 16:03
#9
Dermot (The Derm) wrote:
Yep, if anything the London bombs held this up. The IRA always waits until their statements are sure to grab the headlines, so they had to wait ‘til the media frenzy died down a bit.
Sinn Fein have been preparing grassroots republicans for this day for a long time. Lets hope they did a good job so there’ll be no defections.
There’ll be a load of shit and hold ups in the peace process yet but it’s a good day for Ireland and Britain.
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 16:20
#10
ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:
but theyve not said they are giving up on other illegal activities.The are still using their”muscle” through racketeering, money laundering, counterfiet goods etc etc.
This is a step in the right direction.I just hope other groups follow…
Posted on Thu, 28 July 2005 at 20:24
#11
deadsetgav wrote:
I saw Iain Paisley on TV last night - I hate that cunt…
He has gone on for ages about not dealing with Sin Fein until they lay down their arms etc… then as soon as they say they are doing, he is kicking off again.
I’m sure that peace is the last thing that crazy old wanker wants… I think the process would have been a lot quicker had he croaked a number of years ago…
Posted on Fri, 29 July 2005 at 11:41
#12
Bad Karma wrote:
I hope this IRA statement is true and they will get rid of all their weapons(and hopefully all the other groups will do the same) and there’s not some Canary Wharf style bombing around the corner in six months time.
I think the reaction and attention worldwide (especially in the US where the IRA do a lot of fundraising) the IRA got from the Robert McCartney murder played more part in this decision than the recent terrorist attacks on London.
Criminality is going to be a big stumbling block in the coming months and i don’t believe all IRA men/women are going to give up their flash lifestyles,there’s a saying in Northern Ireland “that even the dogs on the streets know who these people are” and i’m sure some NI WOMbles will know of someone near where they live who is involved in groups like the IRA or UDA.
The IRA as well as their attacks on the Unionist/Prodestant community,soldiers/RUC(now the PSNI),the bombing campaigns in Britain etc have done a hell of a lot of damage to their own community who they were supposed to be protecting.
Most of the Politicians over here are annoying ignorant cunts deadsetgav this probably explains my apathy.
The DUP and Sinn Fein hate each other but they also have benifited very well from each others existance.It’s very scary they’re the two largest parties in NI now.In the last five years there’s been a shift in both communities and a hardening of attitudes where the extremes have now become the norm and the more moderate parties are being squeezed out.
By my very nature i’m cynical and sceptical being(i can’t help it’s just the way am…) i hope the IRA mean this statement but actions will speak louder than words and only time will tell.(If anyone knows any other cliches they’d like to add please feel free)
I just hope the ‘Real IRA’ don’t feel the need to prove something now because of this IRA statment.
Posted on Fri, 29 July 2005 at 12:47
#13
deadsetgav wrote:
I guess only time will tell. fingers crossed eh? :)
Posted on Fri, 29 July 2005 at 13:44
#14
Lola* wrote:
deadsetgav wrote:
I’m sure that peace is the last thing that crazy old wanker wants… I think the process would have been a lot quicker had he croaked a number of years ago…
i should have put him on my death race 2005 list…
Posted on Sat, 30 July 2005 at 17:55
#15
Bad Karma wrote:
deadsetgav wrote:
I guess only time will tell. fingers crossed eh? :)
Well i do think most people here want peace regardless of their political views or religion but there doesn’t seem to be the same mood of optimisim compared to when the first ceasefire was announced or when the Good Friday Agreement signed.
It’s only really been in the last few years that Ian Paisley and the DUP have come into any real power or influence,during the vote for the Good Friday Agreement they were against it because it on the grounds because it was letting terrorists out of prison and into goverment and most people voted yes for the agreement.
Trimble took a lot of risks with Sinn Fein and it led to his political demise and the downfall of the UUP.
Most Unionists here would rather have continued direct rule rather than have Sinn Fein in goverment again,especially in wake of the Northern Bank robbery,the spying at Stormont,gunrunning,Columbia,the murder of Robert McCartney and their various other criminal activies.
Here’s a link with lots of political reactions to the statement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4724505.stm
Posted on Sat, 30 July 2005 at 19:25
