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Infernal Love = best album ever

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Started by Michael A (Michael Ehh?) in General Therapy? Topics

There are a lot of great singers out there, there are a lot of great writers out there, there are a lot of great bands out there and there are a lot of great albums out there but seldom do all of those things come together like they do on Infernal Love. The raw emotion Andy was able to force out of himself and into his vocals and guitar is beyond belief. You feel every lyric, every chord. It all has weight and meaning. Fyfe’s drums and Michael’s bass are flawless and coupled with Andy’s guitar and vocals the whole is far greater than the sum of it’s parts. I’ve loved everything T? has done, but Infernal Love just hits me like a 20 ton sledge.

Posted on Sat, 1 October 2005 at 22:54

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

don’t know about best album ever. it’s up there in the top ten maybe. but it’s certainly my favourite T? album.

Posted on Sat, 1 October 2005 at 23:12

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interzone (What's up sucker !!!) wrote:

That’s just the truth ‘Infernal Love’ is among the Top 20 of the better albums all accross the world since Rock ‘n Roll started.
it’s true too in all T? career, this one is really exceptionnal. I think it’s apart of the others.

Three of these songs slaps me everytime,it’s ‘Moment of clarity’, ‘Me vs You’ and ‘Bowels of love’-have you fell how Andy sings on it?-

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 00:00

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

interzone wrote:

‘Moment of clarity’, ‘Me vs You’ and ‘Bowels of love’-have you fell how Andy sings on it?-

those would be my favourites off that album too. but that’s just because i’m a miserable bastard.

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 00:07

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Michael A (Michael Ehh?) wrote:

interzone wrote:

That’s just the truth ‘Infernal Love’ is among the Top 20 of the better albums all accross the world since Rock ‘n Roll started.
it’s true too in all T? career, this one is really exceptionnal. I think it’s apart of the others.

Three of these songs slaps me everytime,it’s ‘Moment of clarity’, ‘Me vs You’ and ‘Bowels of love’-have you fell how Andy sings on it?-

Misery is my favorite track on IL. I’ve been through my share of messy break-ups and “Fuck you waste my time” really sums it all up for me, and Andy’s knife like delivery of said line is the icing on the cake.

Me vs. You is a killer track. You can really feel that song in your bones. The bitterness, the anger, it all comes pouring out of the speakers.

30 seconds is also a great track, perfect ending salvo. You go through all the emotions of the previous 10 tracks and then 30 seconds shows up and remorselessly bashes your head against the curb. You couldn’t have a better end track for that disc.

There’s not one weak link on that entire album, and you don’t see albums like that very often.

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 06:21

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interzone (What's up sucker !!!) wrote:

This album is really perfect.
What do you think about ‘Bad Mother’?
Don’t you think guitar’s sound is very nice (this kind of reverb)?
And globally the IL’s sound is really good.
Whatever Infernal Love is a great album. :cool:

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 14:26

#6

Unrequited_lad wrote:

Infernal Love is my favourite album ever.

Just thought you should all know…

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 16:17

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marksims wrote:

Infernal Love is a fantastic album, any song that has the line “And you poured Eros maggots down my throat until I choked” has to be good.

Oh, and A Moment of Clarity??? PERFECTION!!!!

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 16:52

#8

Unrequited_lad wrote:

I once formed some theory that Infernal Love was a concept album with all the tracks out of order (and Nice Guys and Our Love Must Die were also part fo the plan)… but then I just decided to find a hobby to pass my time better.

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 16:54

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tokaarme wrote:

I think that IL is within top 3 of best TPY? albums and BM is the no 1 TPY? song!?! ever, period.. no bs!

Posted on Sun, 2 October 2005 at 17:24

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Matthias (Matthias Pfeil) wrote:

Does anyone know the story why Al Clay was choosen to produce IL?
I didn’t understand why they don’t work with Chris Sheldon again for this Album.

Any infos available?

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 05:12

#11

Bad Karma wrote:

I still remember when i first heard this album because i was so shocked it was actually very good.I’d heard a lot of bad things about it but i think its a very underated album.

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 10:20

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mooneycult wrote:

Hate to be the first misery guts but I don’t its amazing. It’s good, but a bit patchy and overblown in places.

How did people feel when Andy used to say he hated the album?

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 15:55

#13

mooneycult wrote:

ignore

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 16:05

#14

Alan wrote:

I used to love the album (in particular Me Vs You & Bad Mother). But gradually, over time, I went off it.

It’s a bit over-blown in parts, just not as good as it could’ve been because the songs are strong, but the execution wasn’t great.

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 18:53

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Duca wrote:

Infernal Love is really a specieal album. A Moment Of Clarity is pure emotion, no fake, no shit, right there. 30 seconds is also brilliant as ending track. Misery, Me vs You, Bad Mother, no need for an explanation.

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 19:05

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Evilbeast (Dany Brillant) wrote:

I love pretty much that album but not my favourite one.It was almost entirely composed in the recording studios so they may have lost a lot of energies and concentration by rehearsing each song loads of time,it could have been a better Album.Concerning,Al Clay,I read an interview of the band on a French musical magazine (“Rock Mag”) a few years ago and they told this about him: Before begining to recordings of “Infernal Love”,He put on a wall of the real world studios a poster of a Ferrari car and told the guys:”That’s what I want to buy with the money earned thanks to that forthcoming album” :mad:

Posted on Mon, 3 October 2005 at 21:37

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realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:

Definitely my favourite T? album, and definitely one of my favourite albums my any band. I likes it!!

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 00:29

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

I love it, it’s a great album, not the best ever, not even their best, but it’s got quite some very strong songs on it!

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 07:16

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McKekS wrote:

perfect album. :cool:

i wound say that it shares no. 1 spot with few other T? records.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 09:37

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Nausea wrote:

i totally agree.. one of the best albums ever made. t?’s best album definately. i love the david holmes effects between the songs too.. it makes it even more special.

about ‘30 seconds’.. wasn’t the lyrics originally like this:

“there is NO light at the end of the tunnel” instead of “there is A light..”?

i remember that i read somewhere that Andy changed the lyrics for some reason.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 18:25

#21

RobbyVDH wrote:

Because there was piece in N-Ireland at that time.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 18:46

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Michael A (Michael Ehh?) wrote:

I always thought he changed the lyric after the producer and the label said the album was too negative already and they wanted something a bit more positive in there.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 19:25

#23

Bad Karma wrote:

Nausea wrote:

about ‘30 seconds’.. wasn’t the lyrics originally like this:

“there is NO light at the end of the tunnel” instead of “there is A light..”?

Those lyrics are in the acoustic version and then Andy finishes the song with “There is a light at the end of the tunnel”.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 23:39

#24

Michael A (Michael Ehh?) wrote:

To tell the truth I like “There is no light at the end of the tunnel” better. It fits the album more.

Posted on Tue, 4 October 2005 at 23:45

#25

Bad Karma wrote:

I prefer that lyric as well.

Posted on Wed, 5 October 2005 at 00:04

#26

Gemil wrote:

Title: You have to admit that most of us would be able to empathise with…

.. “Fuck, you waste my time…” and “fucking you got boring when it didn’t feel so wrong…” at some point in your life.

If you haven’t, you’re very fortunate.

I have, and these songs mirrored by mental state and my anger towards the girl in question.

IL was a kind of concept album, with the David Holmes musical skits weaving the songs together seamlessly.

I love the way the ‘disease’ lyric from Me Vs You fades out before Holmes’ bridging sample, and then the positivity of Loose kicks in.

I also think the battles sounds before Misery kicks in are very clever, mimicking the battleground of love.

In my opinion, T? have done better albums, but not many.

Oh yeah, one other thing about IL.

Someone may be able to correct me, but I thought the lyrics to Loose were changed, too; I seem to remember a radio session before IL was released (or maybe I heard it live(?), I can’t remember), and there was a totally different tone to the song.

Mayb I’m imagining it, I don’t know.

Posted on Wed, 5 October 2005 at 13:36

#27

Alan wrote:

Gemil, you’re right about the lyrical changes to Loose.

In fact, I’ve heard early live versions of Loose, A Moment Of Clarity, Misery, Bad Mother, Me Vs You & 30 Seconds (all from 1994 gigs), and they’ve all had different lyrics.

Same is true from gigs in 1997 when they played early versions of songs from Semi Detached.

Posted on Wed, 5 October 2005 at 13:59

#28

Gemil wrote:

Title: Cheers Alan…

.. I’m glad you’ve soothed my paranoid mind!

Posted on Wed, 5 October 2005 at 14:09

#29

FNYANKEZ wrote:

Don’t know about #1 all time, but it’s a damn fine album.

Without a doubt the most complete ALBUM Therapy? has ever done. It may not have songs as strong as Troublegum (screamager, brainsaw, nowhere, unbeliever etc.) but as an album (not just a collection of songs) beginning to end it is one of the best I ever heard without being a trumped up “concept album”. Also I think it’s probably their best produced album. Really clear, and elaborate without being “Over-Produced”. The must stood on it’s own with just enough studio tricks to help enhance the mood and work as links between the tracks.

I’ll definetly put it up in the Top 10 Most Underrated and Overlooked albums of all time though. A&M should rot in hell! for how they completely ignored this album.

Posted on Wed, 5 October 2005 at 16:08

#30

Gemil wrote:

Title: On the strength of this thread…

.. I listened to IL in full for the first time in a long while last night.

It was a joy to behold, subject matter aside :D !

Posted on Thu, 6 October 2005 at 08:50

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