Wall of Mouths

James Joyce surely wasn’t an english king, he’s one of the most well-known irish writers.
His opus magnum is ‘Ulysses’ which covers the events of one single day on more than a thousand pages of inner monologue.

See, the idea for the series ‘24’ isn’t that fresh. ;)

The title ‘jude the obscene’ is also a reference to James Joyce.

\literature lecture over.

up_in_flames wrote:

The title ‘jude the obscene’ is also a reference to James Joyce.

\literature lecture over.

:p I love the way you confidently enter debates with conclusive ‘facts’ - that are completely wrong :p

The one about the band Zyklon’s name that you came up with a while back was another one :D

mr self destruct wrote:

Have you shagged Andy’s sister yet though? :D

HAha, that’s why I made sure to put that bit in before the end of the sentence :o

I think you’ve heard wrong! It’s so obviously a play on the title ‘Jude the Obscure’.

I’m saying nothing - the band members sometimes read these forums :eek: ;)

Well, they might have got it from Suskind, but he would have got it from Hardy, so :p

It’s kind of like The Doors - they got their name from Huxley’s “The Doors of Perception” but he got it from a William Blake poem in turn

I don’t think the title Potato Junkie is necessarily a reference to the potato famine - I think it is probably just poking fun at the (accurate) stereotype that we Irish eat a ridiculous amount of spuds!

Cuchulain wrote:

Also think you’re far off the mark that Potato Junkie has anything to do with the famine and/or Irish politics ( esp The Battle of the Boyne ).

The 1690 reference is definately about the Boyne.

But, Andy says “how can I remember 1690, I was born in 1965” which basically says “fuck history, live in the present”. It’s a dig at the Loyalists.

Similarly, “you think that green’s the only colour on the atlas” is making a similar point, except this one’s aimed at the Nationalists.

Potato Junkie is a total piss-take of the Nationalist/Loyalist fued and Andy’s wish not to be a part of it - “I can see you, I can read you, I won’t be you” …

buffalo-boy wrote:

Thats all good. Now I just want to know the deep meaning behing Die Like A Motherfucker!!! Anyone know?!! :D

:D

Yeah man, some real deep lyrics there! Say, if, as Andy says, you live like a fucker you’ll die like a motherfucker, does that mean that if you live like a motherfucker you’ll die merely like a fucker?

well to be fair BB i think we need to set up some kind of system whereby we can actually witness each of the following:

A motherfucker dying like a fucker
A fucker dying like a motherfucker

Then you can take notes, weigh up the pros and cons, and make a decision as to which method suits you.

I’ve always kinda thought i’d like to die like a wheezy old bastard in my pyjamas, clutching my zimmer frame with the last bolt of strength i can muster before leaving this cruel place, but knowing there are other options out there i’d like to see whats on offer, y’know?

gimmebackmybrainsaw wrote:

The song is called Potato Junkie after a famine in Ireland (most Irish Farms grew potato’s) which infuriated the Irish people who still today reckon England sabotaged their crops

I don’t know anyone here who believes the English sabotaged our crops. The famine was not localized in Ireland, the potato blight was all across England, Scotland and Northern Europe, it’s only elevated to catastrophe status in Ireland because the majority of the population depended on them as the staple of their diet.