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Ginger’s Valor del Corazon

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Started by Superunknown in Other Bands & Artists

As promised here’s a thread about Ginger’s new solo album.

Obviously my opinion on it has not been proven by repeated listenings, yet, but I think I can already say that this is the best collection of songs Ginger has released in a very long time, mostly because he’s not trying to be The Hellacopters or Gluecifer and just being Ginger. That means he sounds more like Cheap Trick than The Hellacopters again and it also means that you can hear his 80’s influences a little too well (“Yeah Yeah Yeah” is such an obvious “You Shook Me All Night Long” rip off), but it also makes Ginger’s music a lot more natural. And he’s really jamming a lot on this album, showing what a great musician he’s become over the years (“Ten Flaws Down”!).
It’s amazing that after loads and loads of songs he wrote for The Wildhearts, Clam Abuse and SilverGinger5 he still can come up with a double album! What’s even more impressive is that he wrote that stuff in such a difficult period of his life (see The Wildhearts Homepage for the details).

So, what do you think?

Posted on Sat, 28 January 2006 at 14:26

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#1

Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:

couldnt agree more the album is just fantastic i love everysong , simple as in my eyes ginger is the best song writer ever .

cant wait til the march tour its gonna be fantastic :D

Posted on Sat, 28 January 2006 at 19:16

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deadsetgav wrote:

I’m not totally convinced. I am a massive wildhearts fan and I think the album is slightly lacking.

I cant put my finger on it but I wouldn’t class it as his best work.

Posted on Mon, 30 January 2006 at 07:05

#3

buffalo-boy wrote:

Haven’t heard it all yet but so far i think its ok - not amazing. Maybe i’ll go see it live and my opinion will change.

Posted on Mon, 30 January 2006 at 08:30

#4

Billy Blue wrote:

I’ve just ordered it, I get the feeling its going to be a more subtle affair due to recent experiences Ginger has had. I’ve been following the Wildhearts for over a decade now so I think anything he or they release will mean something to me.

Posted on Tue, 31 January 2006 at 18:02

#5

Bad Karma wrote:

I ordered my copy yesterday so hopefully it will arrive tomorrow.I’m always surprised at how prolific Ginger can be.

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2006 at 22:01

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col wrote:

Ginger and Sonic Circus dates

24th March - Bradford Rios
25th March - Newcastle Legends
26th March - Wolverhampton Wulfrun
27th March - Nottingham Rock City
28th March - Liverpool Academy
29th March - London Academy

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2006 at 22:41

#7

Bad Karma wrote:

Who are Sonic Circus?Ginger’s backing band?

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2006 at 22:51

#8

buffalo-boy wrote:

they are! And i’m fairly certain Jon Poole is back on bass, not sure about ther others though or what songs they will be playing aside from the Valor…ones.

I wonder if ging will like me shouting for Inglorious all the way through the set?!

Posted on Tue, 7 February 2006 at 12:40

#9

Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:

the line up im pretty sure is

obviously ginger lol
jon poole - bass
jase edwards - guitar
steve spring - drums

2 backing vocalisits
rachael jones and sammy edwards

a one conny bloom made a guest appearance at the london gig a few weeks ago .

if anyone wants to know ginger put in a couple of suprises in the set with sonic shake and 29x the pain . dont know if this is gonna be a permernant thing though ginge might have just played sonic shake as conny was there . whatever he plays though you can garentee its gonna be fantastic.

Posted on Tue, 7 February 2006 at 16:38

#10

deadsetgav wrote:

And a new ‘Ginger Says’ on the site.

Posted on Tue, 7 February 2006 at 16:46

#11

buffalo-boy wrote:

New Ginger says! At last! I’m off to have a look!

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2006 at 09:12

#12

Bad Karma wrote:

My copy finally arrived today but i’ve not had much time to listen to it all yet but Ten Flaws Down on the first CD is a stand out song.

Posted on Thu, 9 February 2006 at 23:10

#13

buffalo-boy wrote:

I’m gonna see ‘em live then decide whether or not i want to buy the album. See you at Rock City? :cool:

Posted on Fri, 10 February 2006 at 08:36

#14

deadsetgav wrote:

The album has started to grow on me (not like a fungus)

Posted on Fri, 10 February 2006 at 09:18

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col wrote:

http://www.gingerandthesoniccircus.com/board/index.php

Ginger/Wildhearts forum

Posted on Sun, 12 February 2006 at 18:37

#16

Bad Karma wrote:

Ugly sounds like an outtake from Endless Nameless,i like the diversity of the album.The Man Who Cheated Death is a great song.

Which CD do you guys prefer?

Posted on Tue, 14 February 2006 at 12:21

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Billy Blue wrote:

Gotta be CD 1 I think, but why put 8 tracks on one, then 11 on the next?

Mother City is a great choon!

Ugly does sound like its from Endless.

I think its track 4 on the on CD 2, that goes on for ages and keeps changing direction and tempo completely, is reminiscent of Sky Babies.

I think its a pretty damn good album, with some serious social undertones. Hope Ginger has achieved some kind of therapy from making the album.

Posted on Tue, 21 February 2006 at 15:02

#18

Billy Blue wrote:

Damn, I just read about the misprinted version of Valor Del Corazon. I must have ordered my copy just to late to get that one!

Did anyone get it?

Posted on Tue, 21 February 2006 at 15:17

#19

deadsetgav wrote:

Billy Blue wrote:

Did anyone get it?

Yup!

Posted on Tue, 21 February 2006 at 20:53

#20

White Psycho wrote:

Booked time off work for Ginger & Sonic Circus, anyone else going to Bradford Rio?

Posted on Tue, 21 February 2006 at 21:07

#21

Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:

yeah i got it too , not that much of a big deal just a spelling mistake on the side of the album and a random v on the back of the cover , some lucky buggers who ordered 2 copies have made themselves a small fortune selling them from £30 upwards , ohhh the wonders of ebay :D

i shall be attending the london gig , was hoping for a welsh date but its getting less likley so couldnt risk not seeing ginger and got the tickets, it’ll be well worth the trip across the border im sure lol :D

Posted on Tue, 21 February 2006 at 22:58

#22

Bad Karma wrote:

Billy Blue wrote:

Gotta be CD 1 I think, but why put 8 tracks on one, then 11 on the next?

I prefer CD 1 as well,i think Ginger should have maybe cut the some of the song lenghts down or left a song off the album and made it 1 CD.I’ve never really been a fan of double albums.

Posted on Wed, 22 February 2006 at 13:26

#23

Superunknown wrote:

I never really saw the problem people have with double albums. It’s as if one would have to become more nitpicky just because they are longer.

The only song I don’t really like on that album is “Your Mouth”.

Posted on Mon, 27 February 2006 at 01:45

#24

buffalo-boy wrote:

[quote=Superunknown]I never really saw the problem people have with double albums. It’s as if one would have to become more nitpicky just because they are longer.

:D know what you mean!!

Although the Foos stretched themselves a bit far with theirs i felt…

Posted on Mon, 27 February 2006 at 08:33

#25

White Psycho wrote:

I like Your Mouth, puts a grin on my face. Also puts two names in my head. I asked my housemate to listen to it and tell me if any names pop into his head. The exact same names appeared. :D

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 10:48

#26

King Caffeinebomb I wrote:

I liked CD1 much better till I saw them live - the live experience is a big part of enjoying this album. They’re stunning live by the way.

I know could listen to them both back to back, but I wishthey’d left about 10 seconds off so they would both fit on the same disc.

I think VDC is one of the best things Ginger has ever done and it’s got a good chance of being my favourite album of the last 10 years

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 15:24

#27

White Psycho wrote:

If you rip the CDs to your computer, and get an 80 minute CD, using Nero you can fit all the tracks on a CD, provided you remove the 2 second pauses between the tracks

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 16:03

#28

King Caffeinebomb I wrote:

Why thank you - you are a cunning, resourceful and very clever person. Can I please kiss you?

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 21:44

#29

White Psycho wrote:

OK but tongue only, no phlegm.

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 22:15

#30

King Caffeinebomb I wrote:

*dries tongue on a towel and puckers up*

Posted on Sun, 2 April 2006 at 22:16

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