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Started by Superunknown

This looks promising…

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384537/

And it’s at the top of the American Box Office this week.

Posted on Sun, 23 April 2006 at 22:50

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#1

mr self destruct wrote:

Read a bad review of this by someone who’s opinion I usually respect…and Sean Bean’s in it :)

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 09:35

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Taunty Dan wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

Read a bad review of this by someone who’s opinion I usually respect…and Sean Bean’s in it :)

…AND it topped the american box office. Not sounding so good really, is it? :D

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 09:51

#3

mr self destruct wrote:

I reckon it’s shaping up to be as lousy as Requiem For A Dream…

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 10:01

#4

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

:D Sam, just let it go… Move on. Follow your dreams. etc

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 10:13

#5

mr self destruct wrote:

:)

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 10:46

#6

hatchhell wrote:

i saw this on friday, if you love the game you’ll love and appreciate the film, its disturbing in some parts and atmospheric as fuck
dont read interviews by shady fuckin journos/critics
go see it now…

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 19:09

#7

Citizen Erased wrote:

Saw it yesterday & quite liked it - possibly not as much as I hoped as I loved SH 2 but definitely worth seeing.

Church scene at the end was a bit Hellraiser/Hellraiser II-ish though

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 20:37

#8

Charlie wrote:

Citizen Erased wrote:

Saw it yesterday & quite liked it - possibly not as much as I hoped as I loved SH 2 but definitely worth seeing.

Church scene at the end was a bit Hellraiser/Hellraiser II-ish though

The end kinda spoiled it - dodgy acting and constant ” burn the witch !!! ”

:o Half expected Terry Jones to come in and go ” How do you KNOW she is a witch ? “

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 23:26

#9

Idlevice2 wrote:

Yeah, relentlessly cheesy at some points.. ‘Look… I’m burning’.. it’s almost as bad as those fucking Silent Hill comics they made… and it’s inconsistant with Silent Hill theology, but a damn good yarn none the less. Best videogame-to-movie adaptation since Tron. Plus, the CGI and other special effects are amongst the best I’ve ever seen. I’d say the best… but Constantine was pretty good (for special effects, that is!).

Posted on Tue, 25 April 2006 at 15:37

#10

Hatham wrote:

I loved it. Good old entertainment if you ask me! Only gripe i have is that i had to sit through it with my mate who kept rubbing the sides of his face because he got scared :mad:

Posted on Tue, 25 April 2006 at 20:14

#11

josepholney wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:

Yeah, relentlessly cheesy at some points.. ‘Look… I’m burning’.. it’s almost as bad as those fucking Silent Hill comics they made… and it’s inconsistant with Silent Hill theology, but a damn good yarn none the less. Best videogame-to-movie adaptation since Tron. Plus, the CGI and other special effects are amongst the best I’ve ever seen. I’d say the best… but Constantine was pretty good (for special effects, that is!).

GOD YES!!!!

That thing that pyramid-head did on the church steps almost made spew popcorn into the lap of the people sitting in front of me. Some of the best GORE I’ve seen in AGES.

As I get older I keep finding myself saying “Is this really a 15!?!?” expecting it to be an 18…I am weak…

Joe.

Posted on Tue, 25 April 2006 at 21:50

#12

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

I’d seen the pyramid head scene already. I’m a massive fan of the games, was on the IMDB boards for months beforehand, and I finally saw it last night - I’d give it a 7/10.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 09:28

#13

mr self destruct wrote:

What’s The Bean’s performance like? :D

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 10:09

#14

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

What’s The Bean’s performance like? :D

I don’t want to put a scud on his chances, but I think we may have an academy award nominee on our hands here.

Nah, don’t worry, it’s surly and shite! ;)

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 11:40

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Idlevice2 wrote:

josepholney wrote:

GOD YES!!!!

That thing that pyramid-head did on the church steps almost made spew popcorn into the lap of the people sitting in front on me

Yeah, and for an encore, some barbed wire cunnilingus. Great stuff.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 12:23

#16

Charlie wrote:

I thought Sean’s acting was a bit better than the b-movie acting from Alice Krige or the lead female.

Alice Krige basically reprised her role from Star Trek First Contact.

Rose was waaaay too calm the whole time.

Having just been through hell she still like

” :) Can you help me find my daughter ”

as if nothing had just happened.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 12:50

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not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

josepholney wrote:

That thing that pyramid-head did on the church steps almost made spew popcorn into the lap of the people sitting in front of me. Some of the best GORE I’ve seen in AGES.

As I get older I keep finding myself saying “Is this really a 15!?!?” expecting it to be an 18…I am weak…

Joe.

i saw it this afternoon and those were the two things that kinda stuck out for me too. when pyramid-head first grabbed hold of the girl i kinda thought “is he going to do what i think he’s gonna do” and when he did it was truly quite horrific despite it being so clearly CGI. i also thought “how come this isn’t an 18?”

could anyone indulge me by explaining the plot though? i didn’t have a fucking clue by the end of it.

Posted on Mon, 1 May 2006 at 19:00

#18

Idlevice2 wrote:

not_that_kind_of_guy wrote:

could anyone indulge me by explaining the plot though? i didn’t have a fucking clue by the end of it.

OK… spoilers (for the film and the game) and pretentious, obsessive analysis coming up.

The town of Silent Hill was origionally settled in by pagans many years before the film was set. There worshipped a demon (whose name has been lost to the ages) and there were also sub-demons. The one snag is, that the cult were absolutly right, and the demon was in fact God (well, not in a neolithic sense, but stick with me). When the Christians came, their beleifs worked their way into those of the cult and it became an entangement of theological beleifs- the demon became simply ‘God’ or ‘The Holy Mother’, the sub-demons became Angels (in the eyes of the cult). The purer members of the cult, less influenced by christianity became the victims of the witch-hunts that were rampant in America at the time, and as you saw in the film, very little had changed by modern times, where those failing to abide by the cult’s rules were burned as witches. The God, however was still with them, and in different times used the emotions of one of the townspeople to facilitate it’s arrival into the human realm. It used that persons emotions to nuture itself and would then be born into the world of mankind, ushering in a new dawn for all of humanity. Now, this plot doesn’t work, because it is a misinterpretation of the plot of the silent hill games. In the film, there is no reason for Sharon to exist, and basicly everything that happens in the film has bugger all to do with the main plot.

In the games, the cult took on a much different role. Dahlia was the leader of the cult of Samael. The demon takes the emotional content of the person that it is being birthed through; the cult wish for the destruction of mankind (“the begining… the birth of paradise despioled by mankind”- Claudia, Dahlia’s daughter) and so wish for the God to be a Demon of hatred and mass destructive force, hence they give it the name Samael (an old fashioned name for Satan). For this, they need the person who will birth Samael to also be full of hatred, pain and suffering.

In order for a person to birth God, the ritual of the Holy Assumption is used (bringing the God into the person; this is one of the steps. There are three steps, or ‘cycles’ in all. The Holy Assumption brings the God into the person, the second releses the person from their human body and creates a new world based on their emotional state, which is the ‘otherworld’ visited in the games, and the movie, and the third is The Birth of the Holy Mother, where the God comes into existance in our world). For the person to complete the ritual of the Holy Assumption, they must die in our world- the God will be birthed in their new world, which is tied to our world, and also the world of the Gods.

Dahlia burned Alessa in order to complete the ritual, the pain and suffering nuruting Samael into existance. Problem was, Alessa survived and her soul was split- one half was reborn as Harry Mason’s (that’s Rose in the film) daughter Cheryl (that’s Sharon), the other remained Alessa, who later died and indeed created a new world based on her emotions of hatred and suffering. So, the cult lure harry and Cheryl back to Silent Hill in order to rejoin the halves of the soul and birth Samael. Samael is born, and Harry kills it with a hunting rifle (never really understood that bit- but I geuss they just needed an end boss).

My main problem with this otherwise flawless theory (there is plenty of evidence to support it) is that Silent Hill 2 and the movie make absolutly no sense whatsoever based on it. I can only assume that there was a different writer for SH2, and that the guys making the film didn’t take the time to work ou what was ACTUALLY going on in the source material.

long story short- no, the film doesn’t make any sense.

Glad you asked?

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 10:39

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Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

To be honest, I found the film strangely unsatisfying but not because of it not exactly following the source material - I can’t quite put my finger on it.

Anyway, all the cult stuff from SH 1, 3 and 4 didn’t really grab me - my favourite by far was SH 2, cos it’s basically the classic story of going through hell to find your love (I know there’s a lot more to it than that but let’s not get into it now!)

Seeing as you seem to love these games, you should check out a book called House Of Leaves - it definitely rewards over-analysis ;)

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 10:59

#20

Idlevice2 wrote:

This post is just to keep this thread in play, because it took bloody ages to work all that stuff out, let alone type up the damn thing, and I haven’t written it anywhere else on the net, so I wanted more people to see it- cuz it’s pretty goddamn clever.

Posted on Sun, 7 May 2006 at 16:43

#21

White Psycho wrote:

Saw the film tonight and I think they caught the feeling of the games extremely well. Sean Bean’s American accent was weird, a mix between American and Sheffield.

Posted on Wed, 10 May 2006 at 00:05

#22

Charlie wrote:

White Psycho wrote:

Saw the film tonight and I think they caught the feeling of the games extremely well. Sean Bean’s American accent was weird, a mix between American and Sheffield.

:) I thought he was trying to be Irish.

Posted on Fri, 12 May 2006 at 14:36

#23

FNYANKEZ wrote:

Dermot wrote:

Seeing as you seem to love these games, you should check out a book called House Of Leaves - it definitely rewards over-analysis ;)

So someone else has read that book.

I liked it, but the gimmick of how they pasted the text all over the pages and in funky patters as the person telling the story got crazier, got old after a while.

Posted on Mon, 15 May 2006 at 17:00

#24

joseph? wrote:

I thought it was good, but I was mainly noticing the similarities to the game. Sean Bean is crap. Anyone notice the woman from Dumb and Dumber?

Posted on Wed, 17 May 2006 at 14:51

#25

Charlie wrote:

Sean bean was the best actor in silent hill.

Posted on Thu, 18 May 2006 at 12:22

#26

Idlevice2 wrote:

More or less the only one, though.

Posted on Sat, 20 May 2006 at 14:20

#27

FNYANKEZ wrote:

watching the DVD now..I notice the soundtrack is basically the ST from the Silent Hill 3 game..which I have (came with the game.

Posted on Fri, 25 August 2006 at 23:49

#28

Idlevice2 wrote:

Not quite- there’s music from all of the games in there, from one to four.

Oh, and on the Silent Hill 2 not making sense with my theory- all the real people you meet in SH2 are on White Claudia, a hallucinagenic drug that that similar effects to the Second Cycle of the 21 Sacrements.

Posted on Thu, 31 August 2006 at 00:44

#29

efilnikufesin wrote:

Talkin about silent hill - im surprised there was no movies made outta those ‘Project zero’ games or is there?

Posted on Thu, 31 August 2006 at 17:08

#30

Citizen Erased wrote:

Not heard of any.

Film coming out based on Dead or Alive though, but they’ve scaled down the breasts :(

Silent Hill 5 out ‘sometime’ for ‘oone of’ the next gen consoles.

Posted on Thu, 31 August 2006 at 19:32

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