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Started by andys gibson sg (James Harris) in Musicians (Gear, Tabs & Lyrics)

Can anyone help find some decent ‘heavy’ sound-settings to adjust on my friends bass amp?

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 02:33

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#1

tatty seaside town wrote:

low and high frequences in. middle frequences out!

really heavy sound. Make sure it won´t sound like overdrive. If it so, then get more of the lower frequences out. You´ll need to put more high frequneces in it than lower frequences. The middle frequences out. Then turn the speaker up. You´ll should have a realy heavy, but light sound. A bit like Troublegum live tour sound :) But this depends also on the fabulous STATUS bass he used in that time :)

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 07:23

#2

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

I guess depends what you mean by heavy? Cutting mids and boosting highs and lows will make a great sound, but will likely disappear entirely when played in a band.

What sort of amp has he got? How many bands of eq? And is it tube or solid state?
If it’s got more than just 3-band eq, then try boosting the low mids. If you can cut below about 100hz, then try that at the same time. Then crank the tubes, if it has them. :) (But not all the way. Try to find the ‘sweet spot’ where it growls at just the right string pressure.)

Moving away from just the amp there’s a whole load of different things you could buy to change the tone. A sansamp, or some sort of tube emulator would be good. Michael uses one, as well as a Boss ODB-3, which is certainly heavy, but I’ve heard from almost every user that they’re also pretty noisy too (in a bad way).
But it does depend on what sort of ‘heavy’ you’re after, I think (and what sort of equipment you’re trying to get it with). Getting a ‘heavy’ sound though J-style bass through a 3-band solid state amp might be difficult, for example.

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 07:42

#3

tatty seaside town wrote:

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“Cutting mids and boosting highs and lows will make a great sound, but will likely disappear entirely when played in a band.”
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Yeah, i know that. But if you want to hear it, you´ll need to turn the high frequences more up. In that way you will hear the notes that are played in heavy sound! I play it in that way. Well i have a status bass ;)
But it depends also what sort of amplification the guitar player uses. if he uses the same frequences you´ll propably need to figure out what frequences everyone needs to use to get a great sound, but hear the instruments alone also.

Figure out what frequences fits the most when both instruments are played.

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 10:17

#4

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

“Figure out what frequences fits the most when both instruments are played.” Excellent advice for any situation. :)

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 10:49

#5

tatty seaside town wrote:

;) i am just a stupid god, i know *g*

STATUS BABY! its like good porn!

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 11:28

#6

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

;)

Posted on Mon, 18 September 2006 at 15:35

#7

buffalo-boy wrote:

Sounds good to me.

These days I get the cheapest bass i can find (a Squire or something of reasonable quality for £200) that has a really thin tone, whack the bass and high right up, take out most of the middle then experiment with the high/low mids for that clanky, ear splitting (yet fat) 3 Colours red type tone so it makes a ‘donk’ but is really bassy too.

Can’t go wrong with this in a rock band! Oh, then I add distortion! :cool:

I rock!

Posted on Tue, 19 September 2006 at 07:19

#8

tatty seaside town wrote:

boss bass overdrive pedal is the one i use. its totally cool. you get every distortion without loosing the pressure and power of the bass. most pedals canßt do that. especially the guitar distortion stuff. don´t use it for recording. it is really just for guitars.

Posted on Tue, 19 September 2006 at 11:42

#9

Idlevice2 wrote:

Sansamp

IT’s the ONLY way to get proper heavy tone, that I’ve found, anyway. I tried that Boss pedal. Honestly, I thought it was shite, but… different strokes.

Posted on Tue, 19 September 2006 at 18:59

#10

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

2 words my friends…

BIG MUFF!

These are fantastic,and not exspensive at all.they blow the balls off you with a good bass amp.

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 00:08

#11

tatty seaside town wrote:

BOSS BOSS BOSS! erverybody in here is lying except me, cause i am the best. (cause i am playing status *g*)

honestly the boss overdrive is cute, because you can adjust everything. high and low frequences for example ;)

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 06:17

#12

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

ctrlaltdelete wrote:

2 words my friends…

BIG MUFF!

These are fantastic,and not exspensive at all.they blow the balls off you with a good bass amp.

I want to get either a russian Big Muff, or the Little Big Muff, and a DOD 250, and then spend the rest of my days laughing maniacally at the power I wield. :D

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 09:02

#13

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

tatty seaside town wrote:

BOSS BOSS BOSS! erverybody in here is lying except me, cause i am the best. (cause i am playing status *g*)

honestly the boss overdrive is cute, because you can adjust everything. high and low frequences for example ;)

If I was going for a distortion pedal (rather than fuzz or Overdrive), right now I’d be looking at the Ibanez PD7 Phat Head. Only weakness is I don’t think it has a blend control. :(

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 09:05

#14

tatty seaside town wrote:

You mean that?

http://www.musikland-online.de/onlineshop_xxbasgit2530385694_Iban … rtion.html

That is what i use
http://www.musikland-online.de/onlineshop_xxbasgit2530385672_Boss … rive-.html

I don´t know. My experiences with ibanez pedals were always bad. The guitar pedals are great, but the bass pedals always sucked. But i usw two old ibanez pedals, because sometimes i want to have that bad sound really. ;)

Well the bass chorus is okay.

But if you want to buy a mutlieffect, i would recommend
http://media.zzounds.com/media/brand,zzounds/GT-6BtopMAP-2d1b9376 … 80d61d.jpg

This rocks really. you can modelate every peace of sound and more on that. Not that cheap, but not that expensive either, when you know what this baby has got to offer. I could play every sound i imagined in the last 14 years i play bass now.

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 12:22

#15

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

yeah, that was the one. I have a sampler cd for their newest effects, and that pedal sounds immense. But I’d be looking at blending two effects loops together (or just bi-amping) to keep the lows (same for any distortion pedal, really. That’s one advantage of the Boss, I think?). I don’t know anything about their old bass pedals, so I don’t know if Ibanez have improved them at all.

I know what you mean about sometimes wanting the bad sound, though. :) Actually Ibanez have got a ‘Lo-Fi’ pedal out, too, but I think it would just cripple a bass guitar.

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 12:35

#16

tatty seaside town wrote:

i think boss has the most to offer for bass players.

two amps are just too expensive for me.

I would love to get two big trace elliot stations and get one just for the lows and one for the highs. But i don´t have 7000 € :( And the second status i want to have is 3000 € itself, so 10000 € ? some people would call me maniac, but its bass baby!

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 14:37

#17

tatty seaside town wrote:

here are my pedals. sorry for the bad quality. but this is the stuff i use.

from left to rigt:
boss overdrive bass pedal ODB-3
boss bass equalizer GEB-7
ibanez bass chorus BC5
ibanez bass stach BS10 (this is the old stuff *g*)

and in the corner there is a guitar tuner by wittner. but i want to get myself a stagetuner somtime!

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 14:46

#18

tatty seaside town wrote:

forgot the pic :)

(Before changing the message boards’ software in August 2007 this post had a file attachment, which may return in the future)

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 14:47

#19

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

I’d like to get a hold of the Boss Bass EQ.
“ibanez bass stach BS10”? What’s that? :s

tatty seaside town wrote:

i think boss has the most to offer for bass players.

Maybe, but if I won the lottery, I think it would be ElectroHarmonix that would be receiving a visit from me. ;)

Quote (author unknown):

two amps are just too expensive for me.

Me too. I can’t even afford one decent amp, never mind two. :(

Quote (author unknown):

I would love to get two big trace elliot stations and get one just for the lows and one for the highs. But i don´t have 7000 € :( And the second status i want to have is 3000 € itself, so 10000 € ? some people would call me maniac, but its bass baby!

:cool: :D

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 15:59

#20

tatty seaside town wrote:

ibanez bass stach BS10 is an old ibanez bass distortion pedal. it sounds hmmm … old and shitty? it has a very lumpish sound. so i use it hardly ever. if i want have a lumpish, but distorted sound i use it.

The Boss equalizer is very cool. You can get some middle frequenzes in there, which is just perfect for taping, or use it like sort of compressor, cause you can adjust the loudness. or just get more highs in there, to get a real hardcore funky sound :)
i am very happy with that pedal

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 16:25

#21

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

I’ve found a couple of references to the BS10. One of them was even good, lol. :D

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 21:35

#22

tatty seaside town wrote:

well perhaps back in the old days :)

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 21:39

#23

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

:) It was on Harmony central. I didn’t notice if there was a date on it.

Posted on Wed, 20 September 2006 at 21:47

#24

tatty seaside town wrote:

well if you get the chance and see it somewhere, try it … you´ll know what i mean :)

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 09:57

#25

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

So I’ll be looking in secondhand shops, then? :)

(Maybe I’ll see if it comes up on ebay ;))

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 10:15

#26

tatty seaside town wrote:

i think ibanez has some message board for musicians. perhapy try there if you really want to have that thing :)

or ebay of course

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 12:04

#27

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

Misanthropologist wrote:

I want to get either a russian Big Muff, or the Little Big Muff, and a DOD 250, and then spend the rest of my days laughing maniacally at the power I wield. :D

i run a russian big muff, and ibanez tube screamer, and a boss heavy metal(classic).into a rectofier amp or an AC 30… the power, mwuhahahahahahha!

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 12:19

#28

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

*drools*
*best will smith impression* Now that’s what I’m talking about.
How’s the Boss HM sound on its own? I’d imagine that would suck a lot of lows?

EDIT: Or are you just too busy laughing? :D

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 13:38

#29

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

well i only use them with my guitars, and the muff on its own with he bass.The HM is ok on its own,it sounds great when its cranked up, but even better when its run with the others.You can get some real saturated stuff with it.

also… Dont buy ROCKTRON pedals, not at all reliable, and because they are from america, very hard to get sent back when they do break.

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 15:41

#30

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Ah, ok. No, I wouldn’t touch Rocktron at all.

Posted on Thu, 21 September 2006 at 17:23

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