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25 rarest tracks - heres my list…

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Started by Ian Hayllar in Therapy? Buy, Sell & Trade

I had a look at the list again that Sister put up in a previous thread and I reckon that the 25 rarest songs are as follows. Its not a list of the rarest physical records, as there are the white label test pressings of the Pleasure Death 4tk single, Teethgrinder 3 tk etc, that are rarer than rocking horse shit as they only made 10 each time, as well as normal records such as the Meat Abstract 7” of which there were only 1000 legal copies made (and 500 bootlegs). I am not knocking Sisters list in any way – top marks for a pretty comprehensive list ! I have also explained a bit about ones I left out from Sisters list at the bottom. Please note that there are no bootlegs on the list, so tracks like Next to You which appears with Invisible Sun on a rather nice looking 7” (only 400 made) aren’t included. Feel free to add your comments or corrections, and especially if any of the band or ex-A&M’rs know roughly how many of each promo on the list was sent out.

As a final comment, I am nearing the end of finishing the definitive discography, which includes every release worldwide, all promos put out by T?’s various record companies round the world, all compilation appearances, cat numbers, quantities released, pictures, sleeve notes etc. Its been a big headache sorting it out all out, but if anyone would like a copy when it is finished please let me know.

Anyway heres the list!

1. BODY OD
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist

2. SKYWARD (DEMO)
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist

3. BEEFHEART-ALBINI
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist
(have omitted Bloody Blue DEMO from this list. Bloody Blue appeared on the bonus CD of So much for the ten year plan and is pretty freely available.

4. HERE IS
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist

5. MULTIFUCK
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist

6. SWT
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist
(This time, I have omitted Meat Abstract, as I think I am right in saying that both this version and Punishment Kiss were the ones that appeared on the single and Babyteeth…Mikehell, is this true?)

7. Teenage Kicks
Have a merry fucking Christmas 7”
1000 copies exist

8. With or without you
Have a merry fucking Christmas 7”
1000 copies exist

9. Sister (live)
Hate Kill Destroy EP
2000 copies exist

10. Six Mile Water (live)
Hate Kill Destroy EP
2000 copies exist

11. Hunks of Burnin’ Love (Bowels of Love demo)
(Therapy? as Mondo Paddy)
The King and I compilation 10”
3000 copies exist

12. Misery (Radio edit)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

13. Knives (live)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

14. Stories (live)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

15. Knives (Kiddies version)
Knives radio promo
Number of copies not known

16. Nausea (clean version)
Nausea US radio promo
Number of copies not known

17. Disgracelands (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

18. Diane (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

19. Opal Mantra (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

20. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Mix)
Trigger Inside limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

21. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Instrumental)
Trigger Inside limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

22. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 1)
Die Laughing limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

23. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 2)
Die Laughing limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

24. Teethgrinder (Remix)
Nausea US promo
Number of copies not known
(This is a different remix than the 2 that appear on the Teethgrinder 12”)

25. Totally Random Man (Mark Goodier Session for BBC Radio1)
Pervo US Promo
Number of copies not known

The ones that I left out include:

Vicar in a tutu / Come and Die / Invisible Sun / Iron Man
All of these are still available on the relevant compilations so they arent really rare

Rehab (Andys guest appearance with ManChild)
Single still available in the shops and on order.

Jonestown Mind (?)
A bit of a mystery this one. I remember a Jonestown Mind remix of one song, but I cant remember where!!! I think it was Innocent X…any help ????

Punishment Kiss (demo)
The version that is on Meat Abstract is the same one that is on Babyteeth and not a demo version.

Reality (?)
Don’t know what this is !

Teethgrinder (Unsane and TeeHee dub mixes)
Only just outside the Top 25. Not many were made of these and Im holding onto my copy tightly.

Innocent X (Special remix)
Split single with Orbital / Also on Volume CD “Sharks patrol these waters”.

Posted on Fri, 22 June 2001 at 16:22

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sister wrote:

I would leave these:

7. Teenage Kicks
8. With or without you
->both appear on some of the rest and who did this, so not very rare

9. Sister (live)
10. Six Mile Water (live)
->Single still available in the shops and on order. Don’t know about other countries, but certainly here in Belgium.

14. Stories (live)
-> same as il-promo, and japanese il-import

Posted on Fri, 22 June 2001 at 20:15

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Michael wrote:

How about ‘Next to you’? I think there are many ppl who still don’t have it. I already have it though. And the T? remix of Pitchshifter’s ‘Diable’, is that a rare one?

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 07:34

#3

opalmantra wrote:

Mmm, what about Rod Stewart’s new single? Very rare!

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 08:11

#4

sister wrote:

Hey, and Reality is an early die laughing-version they played on the Dave Fanning-session from 14/11/1994. Cool song!!!

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 09:32

#5

Michael wrote:

Rod Stewart’s single rare? Hmm, maybe it’s because of a lack of demand? Or the people who did buy it, have all burnt the single during the annual ritual cd-burning fest!

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 10:22

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Ian Hayllar wrote:

like the Rod Stewart comments :-)

As i said, its a list of officially released tracks and Next to You doesnt fall into that category, although i agree that its a song that a lot of people wont have. I’ll add it to the list then !

Cheers for the info on Reality as well Sister.

Any more comments or feedback ? Predictions for how badly Rod Stewarts single is going to do in the charts ?

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 10:35

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Ian Hayllar wrote:

oh yes, nearly forgot: I agree with Teenage Kicks / With or… not being on the list as most people have them.

As for the Hate Kill Destroy b-sides, I am going to have a chat with Universal as HKD was a limited run of 2000 but I think there were many more made for the Netherlands and Belgium.

The promo version of IL has the standard version of Stories (with no david Holmes bits at the beginning) not the live one. Never heard the Japanese IL import so not sure about that one…

Thanks for the feedback anyway.

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 10:41

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never_say_never wrote:

Isn’t Jonestown Mind the song Andy appeared on from The Almighty’s 1994 album ‘Crank’? It was remixed as a b-side of the single release of the song. The remix was really ambient and ghostly.
Or am I getting confused here?

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 14:19

#9

Ian Hayllar wrote:

correct ! thanks for putting me out of my misery, it was really bugging me where I knew the name from…

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 14:55

#10

sister wrote:

Alright, there’s a list now, but what are we going to do with it? Rene???…

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 18:40

#11

Fat Punk Doris wrote:

Wow this puts my collection to shame…:( Can i have a list of that complete discography pleasssssssseeeeee.. anybody else got the misery acoustic its not rare as such cus you can download it, anyone know what release its on think it was a b-side to the single, but probably im wrong.

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 20:18

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sister wrote:

Misery acoustic was on the diane-single (on the normal cds and on the 2cds, but not on the 7’, the cass-single or the velvet case-issue)

Posted on Sat, 23 June 2001 at 22:44

#13

Fat Punk Doris wrote:

cheers the only single off infernal love that i got is loose, shows how shoddy my collection is. If anyone has any duplicates let me know i’ll be interested..

Posted on Sun, 24 June 2001 at 15:26

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

I’ll use Ian’s list with the additions you guys made and I will start making CD-quality MP3’s from all the songs from the list I have myself.

I should have those up soon, and then I need your help to put the rest of the MP3’s up on my site, OK?

Posted on Sun, 24 June 2001 at 19:21

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Ian Hayllar wrote:

sounds good Rene, let me know which ones (if any) I can send you

Posted on Sun, 24 June 2001 at 23:33

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

The first batch of songs (nine to be exact) are up now..!

There are some songs I have but haven’t yet converted to mp3, and than there’s a couple of songs I don’t have. I don’t have the original release nor a CD-quality mp3 of the following songs:

Body OD
Skyward (Demo)
Beefhart Albini
Here Is
Multifuck
SWT
Hunks of Burnin’ Love (Bowels of Love demo)
Knives (Kiddies version)
Disgracelands (acoustic)
Diane (acoustic)
Opal Mantra (acoustic)
Next to You

If any of you can provide me with any of these songs in 128kbit, 44100Hz stereo mp3, please contact me at rene@teethgrinder.com. Please contact me first, and await my reply before sending me mp3 files as an attachement. Cheers!

Posted on Thu, 28 June 2001 at 22:28

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deekoi wrote:

wikid! am already queueing them in getright!

Posted on Thu, 28 June 2001 at 22:43

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Ian Hayllar wrote:

What can I say? That man is a star. Cheers Rene…dank je wel!

I have Disgracelands and Diane (acoustic) in CD quality MP3 if you want me to send them your way. I also have the demos on cassette but I dont have a cassette player anymore so I cant MP3 them, I still have a couple of interviews I wanted to MP3 as well. Not sure if I send you cassette copies whether they will be good enough quality, as they are copies already.

Anyway thanks again, and for yours and everybodys discography additions, will be updating the list tomorrow and will repost the address when they are up.

Nighty night

Ian

Posted on Thu, 28 June 2001 at 22:55

#19

Dr. Bigjoint wrote:

Try audiogalaxy.com

Posted on Thu, 28 June 2001 at 23:56

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whaley wrote:

I have at least Hunks of burnin’ love and that Kiddie version original, so I can make MP3’s out of them.

By the way, why didn’t I know this page before? Damn I must have been sleeping. I hereby promise I will update my pages as well :-)

Regards, Whaley.

Posted on Thu, 5 July 2001 at 07:18

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

Hi Whaley,

Nice to see you finally found my site.. :-) I already told you about the site a while ago, though! You were taking pictures at one of the 6 gigs last year (don’t remember which one) and I asked you if you knew this site. You said you didn’t and would check it out. I also asked if you could send me some pictures to put on the site and you said you’d think about it. Does this ring any bells, or were you too drunk that night? ;-)

Anyway, if you could send me those mp3’s (128 kbit, 44100Hz), that would be cool! Cheers, Teethgrinder.

Posted on Thu, 5 July 2001 at 07:48

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whaley wrote:

Hi,

No I can’t have been drunk because I rarely drink (then again, if I do drink, you never know what happens). I do remember someone telling me about the site, but I’m not sure if I’ve seen it before. I’ve been so busy with the band I know personally called Krezip (Dutch people will know them) and going to Pearl Jam in the UK/Ireland that I let my love for Therapy? slip for a while, even though I did buy the 10-year plan cd when it came out. I did take pictures in Rotterdam, some are even pretty cool. I’ll look them up! I guess seeing Michael at Werchter then hearing about the Zottegem show and seeing this site woke something up in me :)

Posted on Thu, 5 July 2001 at 10:09

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opalmantra wrote:

Yeah, pretty please let me see those pictures!

Posted on Thu, 5 July 2001 at 10:59

#24

Christian wrote:

ehm…what exactly is the difference between the neck freak version from here and the one from Born in a Crash? And…the clean version of Nausea…is there any real difference or is it just without the beginning sample?

Posted on Fri, 6 July 2001 at 17:41

#25

sister wrote:

I’m not sure, but i think that neck freak on borninacrash the original studio version is, while the neck freak-new version the version is they played on one or another Mark Goodier Session for BBC Radio 1FM (think it was 21.11.92). But I’m not very very very sure about that.

The nausea-clean version is nothing but the nurse-song without the beginning sample.

Posted on Fri, 6 July 2001 at 19:53

#26

Christian wrote:

I’m pretty sure Neck Freak sounds exactly the same as on Born in a Crash, while the Totally Random Man version is different (even different lyrics!).

Posted on Sat, 7 July 2001 at 11:28

#27

Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

I think I agree with sister on Neck Freak but I’m not very sure either, to be honest.. Ian?

Three more sound clips have been added: Diane and Opal Mantra (both acoustic) from the Bad Mother single, and Knives (Kiddies Version) from the Knives promo. Thanks opalmantra and whaley!

Posted on Sat, 7 July 2001 at 12:06

#28

sister wrote:

Which sound clips do you still need? I don’t have a clue how to make sound clips; but I can always try to send you a cd with the missing things; just let me know.

Posted on Mon, 9 July 2001 at 21:52

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

Thanks for asking, Gie..!

** Songs I neither have originals nor good quality mp3’s from:

30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
1. Body OD (Demo) - offered to me by Ian Hayllar
2. Skyward (Demo) - offered to me by Ian Hayllar
3. Beefheart-Albini - offered to me by Ian Hayllar

Meat Abstract demo cassette
4. Here is - offered to me by Ian Hayllar
5. Multifuck - offered to me by Ian Hayllar
6. SWT - offered to me by Ian Hayllar

The King and I compilation 10’
7. Hunks of Burnin’ Love (Bowels of Love demo) - offered to me by whaley

Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
8. Disgracelands (acoustic) - offered to me by Ian Hayllar

** Songs I have, but have yet to convert to mp3

Trigger Inside limited 12’
9. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Mix)
10. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Instrumental)

Die Laughing limited 12’
11. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 1)
12. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 2)

So, all songs are available in theory, but I’d love to hear from whaley and Ian if they indeed can still provide me with those songs.

Gie, If you have any of these songs already available as an mp3, let me know.. I’ll contact you if I need the CD. Thanks for the offer!

Cheers, Teethgrinder.

Posted on Mon, 9 July 2001 at 22:08

#30

sister wrote:

no, sorry, i haven’t got any of them as an mp3 yet. Just let me know when i can help you any further

Posted on Mon, 9 July 2001 at 22:40

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