Wall of Mouths

Impressive first post, welcome to Wall Of Mouths!

Yeah, don’t blame Therapy? like soul doubt says, it not their fault. Blame Spitfire/Eagle and the lack of their support to Therapy?

You can also order NANE from various internet recordshops so that’s not really an issue if you want that album.

MarkoJii wrote:

You can also order NANE from various internet recordshops so that’s not really an issue if you want that album.

indeed you could get it on the internet and just pay for the shipping. If you don’t want to spent the money, that’s completely up to you, but don’t blame T? for money you don’t want to spent.

None of the problems have anything to do with the band. I know that their early releases were unleashed in the States, thanks to Touch & Go and A&M. Plus the fact that A&M went under, they could get Semi - Deteched released and by then, their status dropped a bit.

I recall some of the American press (Guitar World and Guitar School being two examples) had a short piece about Andy and his guitar playing, but I recall various pieces in the American press.

One thing though: have you thought of importing NANE?

Good luck in your search. There’s stuff I want to get hold of but can’t…but that’s a long story in itself.

Michael A wrote:

I don’t know how to start this so I’ll just get to the meat of the matter. [..]

i, for one, 100% agree with you… i got into an arguement with half the people here about this when the album came out, and they said the same thing they’re saying now… and you and i know it’s bullshit… t? said they would try to work on it, and we haven’t heard anything since…

and buying the album from the uk is not an option… besides the fact that it will be twice the price i would pay over here, why should i increase the uk sales while decreasing any north american sales if it ever is released over here?

ya, i know it’s mostly the record company… but is it 100% of the record company’s fault? personally i don’t think so…

we’re not talking about touring, we’re talking about releasing the album…

and don’t talk to me about touring… there are thousands upon thousands of bands touring right across north american that don’t even have the profile t? does, even if their profile has dropped quite a bit… how do you think most bands start out? if they really wanted to come here, they could… but they don’t… they’d rather do their ‘uk/belgium/holland/maybe one other country’ tour every year like they have from the past 5 years…

and yes i know they were in the states for 12 shows in 2001… i drove 6 hours to see them… and i’ve flown to scotland to see them too… i don’t need anyone here telling me i haven’t put my hard earned dollars or time into this band… if they can’t release the album here, then just tell us instead of leading us on… it sucks the record company might not release it here, it suck even more that t? told us they would look into it and we haven’t heard anything…

well if you like T? this much why don’t you buy their albums on foreign online shops, then?

hell, i mean if i want something and i can have it, i have it…even if it’s not good for the commercial balance of my coutry…i’ve bought many things in ‘Ricans cybershops or labels, i don’t feel antipatriotic for that…

choose what you want…

soul doubt wrote:

It may sound cruel, but I think PanZer is right. The first matter of a recordcompany is money I guess, and they probably don’t see a business in it. I don’t think Therapy? can do anything about this, they do so much for their fans, show some respect please!

no doubt you are right… but when the band says they’ll get back to us and they don’t, well how do you expect us to feel?

if they got back to us in a timely manner and just said ‘sorry, there’s nothing we can do’ then i could point the finger directly at the record company (who they decided to sign with, i might add, but i digress)… but they have not gotten back to us when they said they would… therefore i understand how Michael A feels…

That’s not nice indeed, but give them a break… They have more to do than that.
But why wait on their reply if you can get the cd earlier. Who matters if it’s from an American shop or a European or whatever shop… and what does it matter if it’s import, unless you’re a collector (but then you wouldn’t mind to buy both ofcourse IF the us-version will ever be available)

buying it from a european shop would just go to show that there is no one in north america that wants t? cds… therefore the next and the next t? cds will not be released here as well… if they released the cds at the same time then you would be able to gage the demand from the north american market… you cannot do this now, and i would just be adding to this by purchasing it from the uk… if they ever do release it over here they won’t sell any copies now, cause all the fans have already purchased european copies…

and if you don’t believe me, then explain the fallout of t? in north american after troublegum… it took over a year for the north american release of infernal love compaired to the uk release… buy that time all the diehards had already purchased it from the uk…

mfgeorge wrote:

and don’t talk to me about touring… there are thousands upon thousands of bands touring right across north american that don’t even have the profile t? does, even if their profile has dropped quite a bit… how do you think most bands start out? if they really wanted to come here, they could… but they don’t… they’d rather do their ‘uk/belgium/holland/maybe one other country’ tour every year like they have from the past 5 years…

I see your point about the continuous UK & Benelux countries tours every year - I guess these are the safe bet options.

But regarding loads of bands with lower profiles than T? touring the States, is this because they’re young up-coming bands with record company money to spend? Remember when T? toured North America shitloads in 1993, 94 & 96 - these years co-incided with big album releases on A&M. Basically, when a band has just signed to a record company, the label is more inclined to risk spending big money on tours, in the hope of building the young bands profile. Nowadays, there’s no chance of a decent record label signing (ie taking a risk on) Therapy?

But the overall point you’re making is true - Therapy? should really be keeping North American fans more up-to-date with news relating to that continent.

Do you have any idea what this will cost? I’m not quite sure they can afford this!

soul doubt wrote:

Do you have any idea what this will cost? I’m not quite sure they can afford this!

honestly, i have no idea… i’m not in a band or anything… but i do know there are literally thousand of bands, independant bands, that tour north america on any given day…

you know, i understand that therapy? have a good european fanbase and it makes sense to tour there… why spend all your time somewhere hardly anyone knows you and ignore all the fans that wanna see you… but 12 north american shows in 9 years is kinda rough… and not letting your fans know if the album will ever be released here is unfair… the moment they let me know it’s a no go will be the moment i look for it by other means…

as soon as a release dat is CONCRETE we will let you know…well…there is your answer!

And Yes: it is shit for people in all countries where Therapy? haven’t been for a long time but it is absolutely NOT unwillingness from Andy, Michael and Neil…Oh…and I would like NIN to come and play in The Netherlands in a nice venue as well, but hey…they are not…And I am not gonna slagg Trent Reznor for this…

@Michael A: welcome to the wall of mouths, hopefully you have got something positive to say as well!

Ronald wrote:

as soon as a release dat is CONCRETE we will let you know…well…there is your answer!

are you telling me you think 8 months of not saying anything at all is reasonable just because they said that?

You don’t get it. I’m not asking for a concrete release date, I’m not asking for a US tour. I’m asking for any bit of information T? can give the US fans regarding NANE.

You mean to tell me that in 8 months no one in the T? camp can come forward and at least say “Look, this situation sucks ass, but here’s where we are right now”? Bullshit.

In 8 months we’ve had not 1 word on this situation. In 8 months we can’t get 1 damn update? Andy can’t find the time to put it in one of his diary entries? One of the three of them can’t fire off a quick email giving us a brief update on the situation?

They have down time. There is no excuse for the way they’ve gone about handling this situation.