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Started by jeffq

Hello! Hope you are doing good and i wanted to thanks all you who gave me some clues for my essay on the internationalisation of Ireland through Therapy? !! That was really cool! In fact eventhough they are from NI i still can do my paper on them which rocks!
I have another question for my paper: Thanks to therapy? did you learn some stuff about Ireland? If yes which one? Do you think they can promote their country? Give me your opinion about this! that would be really cool!

hope to hear from you really soon!!

take care!
ps: this band is really cool because i send them an email where i asked a few questions and the following day I got an answer by Michael! I couldn’t believe it!

Posted on Sat, 31 December 2005 at 13:40

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jeffq wrote:

Title: Give me your opinion! (merged)

Happy new year to you all!

I’m back with my questions!! I want your opinion!!

Do you think that you learn things about Ireland thanks to Therapy? ?

Are you more interested with Ireland thanks to therapy? ?

If yes why? Even if the answer is no tell me about it!!

Thanks a lot!

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 09:22

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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

I don’t really think of T? as a political band. There are references to NI in some songs but it’s not something major coming from the band I don’t think. I remember years ago they pointed out they were a band of mixed faiths and if they could manage to get along just fine, so should everyone else be able to.

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 10:05

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jeffq wrote:

thanks for your answer! where do you come from? did you learn stuff about ireland?

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 10:31

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Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

I learend about james joyce…

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 10:42

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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

I come from England, I don’t think I really learned about NI through T?, no.

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 11:41

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Nitro wrote:

I remember once Andy said “We’re the first band from Ireland which is not abusun IRA” or something like that.

I couldn’t learn anything from T? about Ireland, as they speak awful English accent!! (In Istanbul show Andy said: “Sorry my Turkish is awful… also, my English is awful ‘cause I’m from Ireland”)

After T?, I got more interested in Ireland, especially the geography. Carry Mountains, Cork, Belfast, bla bla.. and also thanks to Therapy?, I know a town called LARNE!!!

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 11:44

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Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

I also learned about a river called the six mile water

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 11:49

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jeffq wrote:

That’s great! I know they don’t want to be considered as a political band, as i said before i sent them a letter to ask a few questions and they answered and he wrote i quote “I don’t really see us as cultural ambassador , that would be a bit pompous but i feel it’s good to have our band redress the sometimes negative image of NI.”

So it is really interesting for me to know what you learn from them, from their music and of course we learn stuff!

that is COOL!!!

Keep going on telling me!

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 13:38

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Evilbeast (Dany Brillant) wrote:

I’ve always appreciated Ireland and because my favourite band in the old times was an also an Irish one ,it was ,well,…euh “the band considered as the best one of the 1980’s” ,sorry sometimes I feel so ashamed of that :D .I read a novel about Northern Ireland,”Beyond the Barricades”( sorry if it’s the wrong title,I translated from the French one…) by Joan Lingard and even spent summer holidays in Cork.But T? showed me that NI cannot be summed up with bombs/riots/barricades and they are the example that people,in that country, can hold their own despite a difficult environment…and Irish bands don’t need to play a mixing of folk and rock music to be recognized at their own value ;).

So yes,mon cher Jeff ;) ,I get more and more interested in Ireland with T? .

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 14:28

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Moint wrote:

Have a look at the potatoe junkie lyrics. It seems to me that there is a lot of criticism in there…

I can hardly remember, but during their spyf tour, when the played in Vienna, Andy said something like: “Im a protestant and this guy (pointing at Michael) is a catholic, but he’s the f* best friend, i’ve ever had”.
Maybe he said it vice versa, but nevertheless this was just one of several moments during live concerts, where T? refered to the NI conflict.

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 15:44

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jeffq wrote:

Hi evilbeast! this is Marina Writting! Great to hear about your opinion! Be sure that your and the other opinions will be in my paper! That’s just great!

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 16:13

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Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

You should check out this:

http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/discography/albums/babyteeth/losercop.php

Pretty good indication of NI life influencing a T? song. Also this bit from “Bad Mother” is about NI:

“The vicious vulgar colours clash, like the twelfth day of July
Left abandoned in a field, endless wailing scaring me
I could see beyond the field, being left alone in lonely summer
I am stuck out here, waiting for you to take me home”

12 July is the biggest day of Orange marches here. Or this bit from “Shitkicker”:

“I’m the king of this town
Don’t you fuck me around
A man of people, me
My people never be free”

Sounds like it’s about local paramilitary hoods ruining the lives of the people they claim to protect. There’s always a danger of reading too much into the lyrics, but this bit from “Church Of Noise”:

“Red skies, summer marches on
We should go away together, mongrels in a mess forever”

I also think is about NI - orange marches in the summer again, a “Mongrel” (which crops up a lot in Therapy? lyrics) I take to mean the offspring of an inter-religious relationship… also look at the sectarian taxis pic on the semi detached sleave.

I’m gettin a bit carried away here (and they’re only my inferences) so I think that’ll do. Good luck!

PS: Therapy? rock

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 17:01

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Evilbeast (Dany Brillant) wrote:

jeffq wrote:

this is Marina Writting! !

:eek: ,I feel cheated :rolleyes: .I was wondering how Jeff improved so much in English :p .Nice to have met you on the WOM message boards ;)

@Dermot :thx for all those explanations :)

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 17:20

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RobbyVDH wrote:

jeffq wrote:

Thanks to therapy? did you learn some stuff about Ireland?

They were the main reason we went to Dublin and Belfast so yes… besides rock we also enjoyed some culture in those cities :cool:

And we experienced that the Irish are really friendly people, although we already kind of knew that but nevertheless it was cool to see it confirmed again.

Posted on Mon, 2 January 2006 at 17:28

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fatboy wrote:

Having just read whats on here, at first I didn’t connect T? with NI. Having just read some of the stuff here, its starting to make sense. I never thought for once that Shitkicker could be about the Orange marches (could be about something else though).

I knew about the song Six Mile Water mentioned a river/stream, and that mongrel meant rough person. The James Joyce phase in Potato Junkie did in fact introduce me to Irish litruture (shit, spelt that wrong) but Joyce’s work is meant to be hard going. I’m sticking to Frank McCourt in that case.

Posted on Mon, 9 January 2006 at 13:54

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Pip (Philip Kelly) wrote:

Being from Ireland myself Therapy? didn’t teach me anything I don’t already know I personally don’t see a difference between North and South apart from the money which is annoying the people are mostly the same friendlynesswise (Thats probbaly not even a word) and the way they act, but I have a have a few very strongly Republician minded people I know who say things like all Northern Irish are Protestest Unionist scum and absolute bullshit like that but listen to bands like Therapy? and not care about religion and all that secterian crap i think Music is a medium that unites people all around the world whatever colour or creed they are it doesn’t matter and Therapy? are a band that expresses real life, fun and other things that people can relate to thats what make T? a great band. ;) (I went whey off topic there oh well)

Posted on Mon, 9 January 2006 at 15:26

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Evilbeast (Dany Brillant) wrote:

Title: Congratulations,Marina !!!!!

Jeffq,if you might read this,I’d like to congratulate the “love of your life” for the note she got for her essay about T? and Northern Ireland,as you told me about it the other day(I should say night :D )and let the other Wombles ,who helped her for it,know. 17 ON 20!!!!!

F*cking Brillant :cool:

PS:Hope I could read it in some days ;).

Posted on Fri, 7 April 2006 at 12:03

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