Wall of Mouths

Someone gave me a promo of OCFA (and it was not me who put it on the internet). First I had a promo CD with Sprung on it, which gave me great expectations for the rest of the album. When I got the album I was really excited and I couldn’t wait to get home and crank it in my stereo. With Sprung I instantly loved the track, just like I had with Church of Noise or Stories. But the rest of the album didn’t hit me the same right away. As I listen to it more I start to like some songs better, but in some songs the repeats of lines in the choruses can’t really hold my attention. This never happened to me with songs like Straight Life, Turn or Disgracelands, which have the same. I like: Deluded Son, Lose it all, Dopamine seratonin, adrenaline, Rain hits concrete, Fear of god and Walk through darkness. But what I hoped for after hearing Sprung is not really there. But still, there are definately great songs on it!

Actually I did that on purpose, ‘cause I’m not so deep in the new material yet :)

1) I’m a cunt and downloaded the album.

2) I will buy it the day it is released.

3) Gave it some spins by now, and I think some songs will grow on me, some won’t - I’m especially reffering to ‘Into The Light’, as I forced myself to listen to it repeatedly, but constantly find myself skipping it. Surely the album has some great tracks and many big riffs, but it doesn’t match up to NANE imho, which is one of my favourite t? albums.

4) (And worst from my point of view): What happend with the mix? I played the album through my pc speakers, on my zen and on my high end stereo and I hardly can’t hear ANY drums. Sure, Neil plays some quality stuff again,but it’s all hidden behind the guitar and andy’s voice. that spoils the fun a bit for me.
All in all I rate it 6/10. On the upside mike’s bass-lines kick ass (generally and in the mix)

I’ll wait for the retail version of the album till I give a final verdict, but I guess not much will change.

Still I’m looking forward to hear the new stuff live, and actually HEAR the drumming.

30seconds wrote:

Yes, Like I said, it was a preliminary review based on a few listens on the downloaded copy.

Umm… do you think that’s why it sounds so sterile, and why Andy’s guitar would be drowning out the drums in places? It’ll be compressed to death, not to mention quality loss in the transfer. I dn’t think we can take any production-based qualms seriously until we hear the real version.

Title: Andy’s tuppence

Andy asked us to post his response to this thread:

“Here’s a review for you. Therapy? have worked their asses of against strict budget and deadline schedules to come up with their latest album. We’ve busted a gut and cut every (personal) financial corner there is to make an honest and soaring record.

This is an important year for us the last two albums on Spitfire have used stealth to crawl back under the borders of the Rock buying audiences radar and thanks to your support have gotten us a foothold back in the rock buying public, however this album is the important one as it will in someway decide if we improve on our position or slip back into relative obscurity.

It’s important for all involved that this record reaches as many people as possible.

I’m fully aware that in these times copies will without fail make themselves available for downloading. That is just a fact of life but i’m also confident that many impatient fans who download the album will also buy it when it comes out. What troubles me however is the certain people who download it for free illegally and then within 24hrs post negative reviews.

Our records change sound/ approach with every release. If i had a pound for every person that told me they hated NANE, Infernal Love when they first heard them but now love them i’d be a rich man. Surely it would be healthier to reserve judgement until later or at least until the album ‘officially’ comes out and then you can join in with members of the printed press some of whom, in time honoured fashion, are only too glad to have a pop at the band.

One Cure Fits All was a labour of love for us and to us personally it means a lot.

Regarding the downloading, fair enough if you download and also buy the album when it’s released but if you live with the free download for 3 weeks before, slag it off and then spend the money on buying Tool/Pearl Jam/Ministry/ Satyricon or any other big release that week instead of Therapy? thinking ‘i’ve got it for free, why should i buy it?’ then you’re not supporting the band and you truly are a cunt.

By the way, after paying for recording/studios/mixing/producers Therapy? did not make a single penny from this records advance.

If after buying OCFA you don’t like it then that’s your prerogative and you can take it back/exchange it/reverse over it in your car until then i’d appreciate any ‘fans’ not trying to unduly influence others in their decision.

Therapy? applauds those who have helped them get back on the musical landscape and we want to repay you all by being there for some time to come, Love and respect, Andy C.”

I´ve followed the conversation and wasn´t going to comment any way on this one but…
tsk tsk seems to be the one voice of reason. There´s some good words for everybody to think of. No matter if they downloaded OCFA or not.

Or should I have kept my mouth shut? Too late now.
If someone has something against my sympathy for tsk tsk, E-Mail me. I´m not talking bout the thing here more than this.

Teethgrinder wrote:

then you’re not supporting the band and you truly are a cunt.

Andy C.”

See Andy agrees with me and every other patient T? fan :D

I just want to make it clear that even though I said 30 Secs review was worrying, of course I’ll still be buying the album no matter what.

I’ve been postin on these boards for more years than I care to remember and support Therapy? like a football team ie through thick and thin. I hope that every other WOMble does the same

I think Mr Cairns has summed up this one rather nicely!
I’m marking 24th April on my calender =- whoo! :)

If people can afford an Internet connection they can afford a 20 euro cd if you weren’t able to get the offical album you should have asked your local record store to order it in for you, people will make up any excuse not to part with there money It’s a basic human instinct Greed and I get really pissed off with people like that not :mad: that I’m pissed off with you

Yet…

Heres the general piracy thread
http://therapyquestionmark.co.uk/wallofmouths/showthread.php?s=&a … genumber=3
I’ll continue this chat there if you interested post on it if you are.

Well for those who just lurrrrrrrrve to download stuff!! Don’t forget the download EP out on april 10th to tide you over til the 24th!!

And for fux sake pay for it!! It’s tough enough to survive in a band without the piracy!!! Just think.. your free download could mean the lads have to get a day job!! Live with that! :p
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Download Ep April 10th

Wednesday, Mar 22nd, 2006

“Rain Hits Concrete” will be issued as a download single on 10th April 2006 and will feature 3 exclusive(non album) songs plus downloadable artwork. Full track listing is…

1.Rain Hits Concrete
2.Crazy Cocaine Eyes
3.Hard Work Hope
4.Play On

In response To Andys comments earlier:

I do apologise if my review offended the band, the label or any of the fans here. I understand that you need all the support you can get with this album,and you put alot of effort in, I suppose I was a bit too eager to download the album and hear what it sounded like.
I, as well many of the fans, have bought every album from T?, and most other releases too. I even bought the Rock you monkeys download to support the band! Of course, I’ve pre-ordered and payed for the album, And I was more than a bit curious to hear what it sounded like. I wrote the review just to express an opinion on what it sounded like, Not to slate it, and certainly not to try and influence peoples decision in buying the album. To imply that I would try and sway peoples decision, and consequently bring down T?, worries me. The fact that you think that a fan who had bought every album and many other releases would try and stop people from buying T?’s latest opus is quite disheartening. Almost all the people on here are adults who are able to form their own opinion,who won’t be put off in buying the album after my unprofessional review!
My review wasn’t particuarly negative, I felt an 8/10 was justified and was backed up by some constructive criticism. There are plenty of good points about the album, and I did say it was a preliminary review, and I’d wait until the final copy was released into the general public before I’d give my real opinion on the album.

Once again, I aplogise if my opinion offended anyone, If you feel my review will damage the band then please don’t hesitate in taking the review down, but I was merely expressing my opinion.

And In response to the public CONDEMMING of me downloading the album(which I’ve already payed for, by the way) and reviewing it, I don’t think it was nescecary to call me offensive names like ‘Cunt’ and ‘Asshole’. I was only expressing my opinion about the album, and if It offended you in any way then please ask to take my review down. I do feel singled out here as there have been plenty of other fans who have taken a sneak PEEK of the album. I know this through the amount of emails requesting the name of the torrent site.

I’ve preordered my copy of OCFA, and cant wait to recieve the final copy!

Thanks,
Ben
xxx

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What troubles me however is the certain people who download it for free illegally and then within 24hrs post negative reviews.

This is what drives me INSANE about people! How the fuck can you complain about something you essentially stole? Ridiculous.

30seconds wrote:

And In response to the public CONDEMMING of me downloading the album(which I’ve already payed for, by the way) and reviewing it, I don’t think it was nescecary to call me offensive names like ‘Cunt’ and ‘Asshole’. I was only expressing my opinion about the album, and if It offended you in any way then please ask to take my review down. I do feel singled out here as there have been plenty of other fans who have taken a sneak PEEK of the album. I know this through the amount of emails requesting the name of the torrent site.

I’ve preordered my copy of OCFA, and cant wait to recieve the final copy!

Thanks,
Ben
xxx

Well said! Do I have to post a jpeg of myself with the CD and a online reciept showing I’ve actually payed for the CD? Cunt is still a strong word to many.