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Started by KJC Dublin (Karl)

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#121

KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:

I think they said it would be available on this website - site just hasn’t been updated yet today…

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 15:53

#122

Billy Blue wrote:

Good point, I’ve now spent £7 on this and have finally got it, but no artwork.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 15:56

#123

Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

Sincere apologies to everyone who has experienced problems buying the single. I just got home from work, and wasn’t able to check in today to see if there were any problems.

To anyone who has bought the single and hasn’t received it - or is having trouble buying it in the first place - if you’re not able to solve this with the download site in question, please contact me by e-mail, and I will intermediate and try to sort it out.

Regarding the artwork, it’s a simple case of Sarah and myself not having received it in time. I’m usually not one to pass the blame, but I can’t put anything online I don’t have. I’m trying to get a hold of it asap and make it available on this site.

Again, apologies for the problems that have occured. I do hope you will all find the EP worth the trouble in the end - it’s a sonic treat, and that’s a promise :D

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 16:06

#124

Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

In addition to my post above, here’s a message from Andy regarding the download problems and the download vs. hard copy debate:

“Hello WoMbles. It’s the school holidays and i’d planned to spend the day with my family chilling out. I’d been away from home working in the Netherlands and was looking forward to some downtime, instead i’ve spent all morning in front of a computer and on the phone trying to sort this bloody mess out.

I’m still none the wiser but i’m assured the ‘powers that be’ are sorting it now. Apologies to those that have tried to get their mitts on the single and have been knocked back. We trusted that it was in good hands and those who wanted to hear new material would be doing so by now.

I don’t live in London (neither does anyone else in the band) so we can’t even ‘drop in’ on the culprits in question. The whole fiasco feels out of our hands and it’s not a situation we like to be in.

Many people have asked why we didn’t release a ‘hard copy’ of the single.

Simple fact is we can’t afford to and the recoed company don’t want to take the chance.

If we take, for argument’s sake, the U.K. Spitfire have been down this road with the’ If It Kills Me ’ single and found that it didn’t work.

When T? goes on tour we play, depending on the length of UK tour, to anything between 4000-8000 people adding up all the various attendance figures. It takes between 1000-1500 sales to get into the top 40 so if (again, depending on the size of tour) a quarter or an eighth of the punters buys the single we should be laughing. Unfortunately it didn’t work like this with IIKM which sold poorly (the vinyl itself sold only a handful of copies) and cost the label (ie, ultimately the band) a LOT of money.

Therefore it was not a gamble they wanted to take again. What surprises us is that the single sales were not representative of the sales of the album, High Anxiety which did o.k. for us.

On the industry side if we release a single and shops have to return unwanted copies to the label then the same shops are hesitant to stock forthcoming releases of the band which was why, initially, some people found it hard to get the HA album in their local record store when it came out.

The last two Therapy? records have been selling steadily and keeping the bands profile on a curve upwards. This is something we intend to keep up.

Albums and concert tickets have been steadily on the rise gain for us but we have to maintain it, hence not spending £25,000 a territory releasing a single which in all likelyhood will fail. We would love to release a hardcopy single, we get demand for it from the website and at punters at gigs but the harsh reality is that not enough people buy them.

As has been well documented here, myself and Michael have sunk enough money into the band without taking another risk.

It’s a shame as if the amount of people who bought our albums bought our single releases we would be on firmer ground to ensuring further hard copy singles.

We all feel a bit helpless to be honest and it’s not nice at all. I look at bands i love like Wildhearts and Killing Joke getting back into the charts and wonder why we, as a band that have sold over two million records worldwide, can’t do the same in our own country.

Howver, snipes about our age and being past it don’t help matters much.

Never mind the Rolling Stones, the Fall, Ginger, Motorhead, Supersuckers…the list is endless, are all still making great records.

If Spitfire thought at least a thousand members of our fanbase in the UK would buy a hard copy single then they would release one but as the IIKM single seemed to show them it wasn’t worth taking a risk.

It’s all shit and i really don’t want to think about it anymore as it’s depressing the fuck out of me.

We do the best we can but we’re losing control over certain things and i hate it. Here we are, having made a great record with it coming out in a fortnight and we have this bollocks to deal with.

I don’t know what more we can do.”

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 16:12

#125

aidan01 wrote:

Teethgrinder wrote:

In addition to my post above, here’s a message from Andy regarding the download problems and the download vs. hard copy debate:

I don’t live in London (neither does anyone else in the band) “

Awright people… anyone in London? Get out the baseball bats (or cricket bats) and pop down to pinnacle and let Andy have some family time!!! :D

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 16:22

#126

Billy Blue wrote:

Hmm, thanks Rene and Andy.

A heads up on whats going on is all that was needed. Technical issues happen I guess, so be it.

As it happens, I managed to get the download and I am very impressed.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 16:53

#127

Alan wrote:

Superb post from Andy, thanks Rene.

Have downloaded the single about an hour ago and it went without a hitch. I can wait a little longer for the artwork ;)

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 16:57

#128

kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:

So it´s working now, great! Just can´t wait hear this “cocaine” song, and the others too:)

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 17:27

#129

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

It’s really nice to “Hear from The Horses Mouth” so to speak that the profile of the band is still pretty good, despite the fact so many fans fail to purchase the singles.

To be completely honest I’ve only ever bought T? singles in the past 10 years or so, thus if T? isn’t a persons top band then I very much doubt they’ll go out and buy a single when they could wait and get the album.

Anyways my copies just downloaded from the Eagle Records web site(piece of piss to use! Top Marks) so I’m gonna burn it to CD and crank my stereo to the max…

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 17:28

#130

RobbyVDH wrote:

Downloaded the single from the Spitfire website and everything went perfect.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 17:47

#131

Judge Dredd (Evil Elvis) wrote:

Lucky you.
if I prove Ive paid for it anyone fancy e-mailing me it? Pleeeeeeeaaaasssseeeee?????

Andy, fuck what anyone else thinks, you rock and always will!!!!

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 18:17

#132

stupidfish23 wrote:

damn, been checking iTunes every 10 minutes since I got up this morning! any news when it will be available there?

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 18:31

#133

MoldenWibe wrote:

Hi Guys

Just downloaded the EP from Spitfire and it worked a treat.

Lets look on the positive - we have a new EP! Fuck the fact that it is not in hard copy - the great thing is that we have an album and EP coming out.. I work for a label, and the cost of issuing a single is always going to be expensive unless you have a large firm fanbase that will buy it. It is better for us that a cd single is not released as it increase the likelihood of Spitfire and the band making some money, and thereby being able to continue releasing albums!

For those who had a problem, I am sure it will be sorted out in a few days…

Hopefully everyone buys their album (preorder even) in the first week to maximise any possible chart position…

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 18:44

#134

gleb wrote:

nope. i was checking iFuckingTunes the whole day and theres nothing there that looks like a new T? single. Gave up and now downloading it from Shitfire store. Halfway through already.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 18:48

#135

gleb wrote:

got it. sounds great.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 19:01

#136

Fordonian wrote:

I have after some messing about with sites. It sounds fucking good though I think I may benefit by putting on a CD - being deaf in one and and having headphones in doesn’t really go together! :D

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 20:06

#137

FNYANKEZ wrote:

I guess I should have read this thread earlier. I was having issues downloading with the pinnacle site. I couldn’t wait for it to get fixed, so I got it off the 7digital site as well…oh well :p

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 20:27

#138

Tubthumper (Scott) wrote:

My download link has finally appeared on the Spitfire website, so I’m downloading it right this very moment!

Can’t wait to hear this.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 21:02

#139

Gimme Back My Brainsaw (Mike Hunt) wrote:

12 hours aftyer ordering the single is now downloading :)

Now i feel bad that Andys time with his family has been fucked up, i was complaining but i was going to be in front of a PC all day anyway and was going to hear the usic anyway and shouldnt of bitched as much, and i also made a comment about t? dying out I diddnt mean that, If sales are good for this download e.p then surely the label must consider releasing a future single.

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 21:02

#140

carl-idle-will-kill (carl) wrote:

yea i feel bad too, i think we were all very interested and excited about hearing the music that we didnt wana wait. thanks andy, michael and neil, ur awesome:)

Posted on Mon, 10 April 2006 at 21:22

#141

gleb wrote:

guess what? still nothing in iTunes! shitty service…fuckem

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 06:38

#142

Man of Five wrote:

do you guys think i should just go ahead and buy it from spitfire or wait for itunes canada to update so i give some hits to the band from canada?

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 06:43

#143

stupidfish23 wrote:

from what i heard iTunes is updating its catalogue once a week, on tuesdays. so let’s hope it’s gonna be up tonight.

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 06:46

#144

gleb wrote:

stupidfish23: if it is so, then i shouldnt have made such a buzz out of it… feel kinda stupido now…

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 06:50

#145

soul doubt (an) wrote:

Mine is finally downloading :D

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 07:36

#146

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

carlofthevplates wrote:

yea i feel bad too, i think we were all very interested and excited about hearing the music that we didnt wana wait. thanks andy, michael and neil, ur awesome:)

I think they were trying to sort it out because they wanted it sorted, not just to shut up the likes of you. ;)

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 08:36

#147

aidan01 wrote:

Phew got it!!! Rocking away happily here now!!

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 09:16

#148

Jobrok wrote:

Got it this morning too!

After all the grief people had yesterday, I decided to wait until it got fixed. Glad I did. Some people were going nuts about not being able to download it immediatly. ;)

But anyway! New T? tracks. That’s definitely a good thing.
Have to give it a few more listens before making judgement on the tracks. But initial reaction is very good! :)
Should keep me going until the album arrives in 2 weeks.

.

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 09:41

#149

oscott wrote:

Got it finally too, from the Eagle Shop. But one problem: I’m not able to unpack the .zip file. WinRar and Winzip both say “invalid / damaged zip file”, something in that way. So I downloaded it three times but ever the same. Could anyone help me out?

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 10:56

#150

KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:

whatswrong wrote:

Got it finally too, from the Eagle Shop. But one problem: I’m not able to unpack the .zip file. WinRar and Winzip both say “invalid / damaged zip file”, something in that way. So I downloaded it three times but ever the same. Could anyone help me out?

Hm, I was able to right click on the Zip file and select extract files. this opened a wizard where I just followed the steps.

Is this what you tried doing?

Posted on Tue, 11 April 2006 at 11:39

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