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Started by Muskeg (Yes, It's me.)

Therapy? should just split up.

To be honest, i’m a huge fan but the last album was terrible now wasn’t it.

SP : YF wasn’t amazing and Semi Detached was just a good album.

I think it’s time they chucked it in.

Dave Oakes

doakes@btinternet.com

Posted on Sun, 17 February 2002 at 17:17

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#1

irishlady wrote:

well, i can say that i wish them to be around still for a loooooong time.
i don’t want them to split up and i’m looking foward to every show i’m going to see.
and SPYF is my favourite album, btw.

Posted on Sun, 17 February 2002 at 18:02

#2

Christian wrote:

Basically I disagree to everything expect the Sp-YF thing.

I like Shameless more than Suicide Pact. But I don’t think the songs themselves are that bad. The production makes it kinda hard to get into.

So no, I don’t think it’s time for them to split up yet.

Posted on Sun, 17 February 2002 at 18:20

#3

trigger wrote:

I agree with Squall (concerning Shameless), but i still don’t want T?
to split up.

Posted on Sun, 17 February 2002 at 20:53

#4

MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:

Totally disagree. Therapy? should NOT split just because some of the so-called fans think that the new album is crap.

I really like SHAMELESS!!!!! It’s good record with good songs on it (first five are killer-tracks). But that’s my opinion.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 07:43

#5

satanslittlehelper wrote:

i’m sure the same thing happened when fyfe left. - ‘oh, infernal love is nothing like the last album, i dont like it. now the drummers left they might as well give up’ please, have a little faith. they came back once, they’ll do it again. dont send em flowers cos they aint dead yet.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 10:13

#6

trigger wrote:

We are the so-called fans? By saying that everything T? do is so right
(when they are obviously heading for the wrong direction), you are doing much more harm to T? than you can imagine. You seem to be the type of guy who would just praise a totally blank album if it had Therapy? written on it. I consider myself to be a T? fan, but i still have a critical mind.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 11:23

#7

Christian wrote:

‘(when they are obviously heading for the wrong direction)’

Now, who determines what’s wrong or right?

The only reason that Squall gave was that the didn’t like the music anymore. If he had written something like ‘T? aren’t able to play live anymore, they don’t put their heart into it etc.’ I could at least understand it (if that would be true).

But to say a band has to split up because they don’t do please their old fans is crap, imo. Don’t buy the stuff if you don’t like it. T? do their own thing. And I’m far away from saying ‘it’s right’. But it’s the thing the guys want to do. They won’t ever put out a Troublegum II, still, I think every album has it’s good moments that makes it worth buying it.

‘You seem to be the type of guy who would just praise a totally blank album if it had Therapy? written on it.’

You seem to be the type of guy that’s fast with accusing people being not critical if they like something you don’t.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 11:50

#8

Shra-Mee wrote:

C’mon guys… I think both opinions are understandable. I mean to be honest, one should not accept blindly everything the favourite band does. But on the other half I don’t think that T? are doing a bad ‘job’ nowadays. It is not the time to leave the stage for them, even though they are not as succesful as during the troublegum-era.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 12:58

#9

Michael wrote:

To me, Therapy? is much more than just a band. After seeing them on stage a few times, and even meeting them a couple of times (Zottegem and Dour were pure magic!), they mean more to me than any other band. Compare them with Undeclinable. They too make great music, it’s just a damn shame that these guys seem to have an attitude problem. The T? lads are always very kind, and VERY accessible. They even have their own email address and always reply them personally (!!). That makes the band unique. And you have to admit that the loyal T? fans form a very special group! I had the greatest time in Zottegem and the other gigs last year, together with Belgians, Italians, Germans, etc. So it will take a lot of crappy albums before I would advice them to quit. Besides, I’ve traded a lot of gigs (both on cd and video tape) with many people on this board, and everything went perfectly!
I’m sure I’ll meet some of you guys again later this year. That’s a typical T?-thing, isn’t it?

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 15:19

#10

Christian wrote:

Sorry, my message took more space than I wanted it to take. :)

I mean, I never had the impression that T? are wanting to disappoint their fans - but they’re also trying to do their own thing.

For someone who likes Infernal Love and songs like Diane, Sp-yf might be total crap, but an artist doesn’t paint the pictures you want. I also don’t see why someone shouldn’t like both. And I bet, if T? would still sound today like in their Troublegum days, there would be enough people complaining about how they never try something new.

You can’t please anyone anyway.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 15:40

#11

MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:

I’m really sorry, I didn’t meant to offend anyone who has the same kind of thoughts like Squall. I’m just bored as Christian with these Graham-sucked-Shameless-suck-please-bring-Fyfe-back-Troublegum-is-the-musical-direction-that-they-should-have-done talk. Those times are gone when Fyfe was drumming as well as Troublegumlike records but it seems REALLY hard to understand to some of us…

On that you are saying, trigger that I would even buy a blank record if it has Therapy? written on it, that is true. BUT I have LOVED every album and song from the band (except nowadays because of heavy rotation Nausea, Teethgrinder and Nowhere gets me irritated). Does that make me a bad, bad person because I LIKE the music they are doing and you don’t..? I thought Infernal Love was shit when it was released but then suddenly ‘it got me’, as well as Suicide Pact - You First. I remember the feeling I had when I first time put ‘Shameless’ into my cd-player last summer… When I heard the first notes (after the ‘sample’) of Gimme Back My Brain, I thought I would explode!!!! Then Dance, This One’s For You, etc. I liked that record IMMIDIATELY, NOT because it had Therapy? written on the cd but the songs sounded so damn good and made me feel really well!!!!

I respect your opinion Christian, thanks! Also I have the same kind of experiences like Micheal1, I have met a bunch of great people from various places just because of Therapy? and I know that if there weren’t Therapy? we would never have met. Especially Minna my girlfriend whom I met about 4 years ago JUST because we both liked Therapy? a lot. Not to neclegt all the nice and co-operative people I’ve traded T?-stuff with. So I think Therapy? will always have a special place in my heart for them because they have bring all the joy to my life, (Like albums like Shameless… ;o)

But again that’s just my opinion.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 15:52

#12

t?bopper wrote:

I don’t think saying ‘the last album was terrible now wasn’t it’ is particularly constructive criticism. By this point, everybody’s probably pretty bored of hearing these same arguments on rotation. At the end of the day, no album will please everyone, what one person would think is great, another person would think totally sucks. Therapy? shouldn’t split up because they’re still banging out tunes that please the majority, they’re still having a good time, they still totally rock live, and Michael is still an absolute stud. What more can you ask for.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 18:09

#13

trigger wrote:

I don’t care if someone likes Shameless, it’s your choice and your problem, not mine. I didn’t write that message to judge the people who like Shameless. But i don’t like it when people say that i ‘m not a true T? fan, just because i criticise them. I have a brain and i use it, that’s all.

Posted on Mon, 18 February 2002 at 21:18

#14

Christian wrote:

Duh, I wrote ‘anyone’ where I meant ‘everyone’.

Posted on Tue, 19 February 2002 at 12:15

#15

CROM wrote:

The only time Therapy? should consider calling it quits is when they start trying to play what people tell them they should be playing. Personally, I don’t think any of their albums are bad. Some I can relate to (or ‘get’) more than others but none of them are bad. Let alone ‘TERRIBLE!’ I find it interesting that sometimes some of the tracks I don’t care for on an album are my friends’ favorites. It doesn’t matter though, because we’re not just fans of a specific T? song or album, but fans of the overall T? sound.

Posted on Tue, 19 February 2002 at 19:06

#16

satanslittlehelper wrote:

i guess we’re lucky that t? albums are quite diverse. imagine what limp bizkit fans argue about- ‘i prefer this album cos its more rap-metal’ ‘oh yeah, well this album is better cos its metaly-rap’ we’ll never all agree, which is a good thing i think

Posted on Tue, 19 February 2002 at 22:26

#17

infernalover wrote:

everyone has a different opinion.
somebody like something that some others hate.
if you don’t like latest t? albums, do not listen to it, maybe someone else love them… i don’t like cappers… it’s not a good reason you stop eating them…

Posted on Tue, 19 February 2002 at 22:44

#18

Shra-Mee wrote:

…and I don’t like Limp Bizkit ;-) (or was it ‘Pimp district’?)

Posted on Wed, 20 February 2002 at 07:18

#19

Ronald wrote:

Some people tend to forget that Therapy? make the music they like themselves, they don’t give a shit about what somebody else thinks about them or their records, as long as they are enjoying themselves they will probably keep going, which is a good attitude in my opinion!…I mean: i wouldn’t start drinking BacardiCola instead of beer if you would think I would be cooler that way!…why not? well. I love beer!

Posted on Wed, 20 February 2002 at 13:25

#20

mfgeorge wrote:

and who doesn’t love beer!? yummy yummy beer!

Posted on Wed, 20 February 2002 at 13:37

#21

Ronald wrote:

hahahhaha…Mr George woke up!…I don’t know may people that don’t like it, especially people who are into music like Therapy? mostly like it, or does that work the other way round!

Cheeeeers!

Posted on Wed, 20 February 2002 at 13:44

#22

irishlady wrote:

well, i LOVE therapy? and i do not like beer…

Posted on Wed, 20 February 2002 at 16:43

#23

Irishaustralian59 wrote:

I’d have 2 say that Shameless is pretty damn good, like I am the Money is totally amazing wat a fuckin riff! Gimme back my brain is equally as gd, and the soloing on number three fits soooooo nicely! I no Troublegum was the album, but then every T? album is damn gd! Semi-Detached is one of my favs!

Posted on Fri, 22 February 2002 at 09:37

#24

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

Hey squall man, T?’s music changes from record to record so much your attitude could totally change when the next album comes out. I was thinking they should pack it in after SPYF (which i really don’t like) but Shameless is my favourite T? album, im still listening to it.

I’d be pissed off if T? didn’t make a couple more albums, even one more, before calling it a day.

Posted on Sat, 23 February 2002 at 21:47

#25

whatsmypassword? wrote:

ahhhhhhh cmon people, your starting to sound like a bunch of a-level students, i.e (we’re all individuals blah blah blah) Therapy are a fucking rock band, we all love em, dont tell em to quit (in case they do) beer is good, and i can’t spell. Goodnight

Posted on Thu, 28 February 2002 at 23:12

#26

innocentx wrote:

i of course agree with squall. shameless and spyf have no songs that really stick out or have much of a grabbing feeling to them like past albums. i agree that semi detached was an ok album but it takes a few listens to like it and you shouldn’t have to do that. i listened to shameless and spyf plenty of times i still think they’re horrible. the only 2 ok songs from shameless and spyf is six mile water and sister. i’ll give therapy? one more try of making a good album before i tune out on anything else they do. i think people like me and squall want them to quit before they ruin how great a band they were considered in the past. people like us don’t want to describe them as being a great band whose last couple of albums sucked

Posted on Sat, 2 March 2002 at 18:56

#27

innocentx wrote:

after all, they can’t be considered a great band if they keep releasing crap. i just wanted to add that i think therapy? went downhill once fyfe left and andy got married. andy’s happy now so don’t expect therapy? to ever put out albums like they did in the past. in my opinion they should at least change their name if they want to play the kind of rock n roll music they’re playing.

Posted on Sat, 2 March 2002 at 19:08

#28

Elisa wrote:

If I must be sincere I prefer the old Therapy? style, but I think Shameless is a good album, only different,of course it isn’t an easy one and I’ll have to listen to it still more and more times in order to appreciate it deeply, but I don’t think they should split up,I hope they will go on doing good music and play great concerts as they have always done. They’re chenged that’s true, but probably they want to test something new,the only thing I’m sure is that as soon as Therapy? exsist, there will be hope!!

Posted on Tue, 12 March 2002 at 16:01

#29

D.L.C. wrote:

TO INNOCENTX:
well, you cant expect from T? to play the same old stuff. every band is changing and so does T?. they are making the music they feel like, and if you do not like it, just dont listen to it. i also like the songs from NURSE and from Caucasian Psychosis, but i know that T? will probably never play that stuff again (live or studio). but thats no reason to say that T? sucks or anything else. i just listen to shameless and i guess that i have to get used to it(i am not saying that it is bad). and i love T? because they arent playing the same old shite all the time. every single album is different but all of em are perfect and there isnt an album that is better that the other one.
innoX, if you dont like the new albums, then just dont listen to them, listen to TG all day long but stop writing crap like: ‘Thanx GraPHam that u left. i appreciate it’ and shite about the new T?-style + albums. i mean, if you like TG, NURSE, IL or the earlier stuff, you just have to accept the recent albums and respect T?. you cant make em change and Fyfe is never gonna come back!- thats history. we (and T?) have to focus on the future.
cheers.
dlc

Posted on Tue, 19 March 2002 at 20:15

#30

Shra-Mee wrote:

@D.L.C.: Thanks for posting that!

P.S.: The new Strife-album is shite…

Posted on Tue, 19 March 2002 at 21:20

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