Biggest rip off? on Wall of Mouths

Biggest rip off?

Started by Alan in Other Bands & Artists

For me, simply has to be “Self Esteem” by Offspring (released in 1994) that is almost identical to Nirvana’s “Smells like teen spirit” (1991).

Also, didn’t Offspring rip-off the Beatles with their “Why don’t you get a job” single a few years ago?

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Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 14:10

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Taunty Dan wrote:

hmm…can’t see the self esteem/teen spirit likeness to be fair mate…

how about The Jams “start!” and the beatles “taxman”?

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 14:32

Jelle wrote:

And Smells like teen spirit has been called a rip off of both More than a Feeling and U-Mass. Some songs are slightly similar, live with it.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 14:59

WolfJazz wrote:

i don’t think teen spirit as anything to do with u-mass..

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:02

josepholney wrote:

I was listening to some shite radio station the other day, and it James Blunt I think. something about wisemen, and I thought he’d ripped off that equally mainstream song; Leave Get Out by JoJo.

Joe.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:05

Alan wrote:

Jelle wrote:
And Smells like teen spirit has been called a rip off of both More than a Feeling and U-Mass. Some songs are slightly similar, live with it.

Teen spirit is similar to More than a feeling, true.

Live with it? I wasn’t upset, believe me ;)

I was just pointing out that Nirvana came out, went huge, then just a couple of years later Offspring went massive with a very similar song. It just smelled of a deliberate conscious move, imo.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:12

Taunty Dan wrote:

WolfJazz wrote:
i don’t think teen spirit as anything to do with u-mass..

no i don’t think so either! odd…

Nirvana did “borrow” the odd riff, though, it wasn’t exactly a secret. Come as you are was lifted wholesale from a Killing Joke song. Rape me is kurt ripping HIMSELF off!

its difficult as a song writer to write something completely brand new, everythings been done before. That why, in my opinion, the 60’s will always remain the greatest decade for popular music. These guys were the originators.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:22

Jelle wrote:

Alan wrote:
Teen spirit is similar to More than a feeling, true.

Live with it? I wasn’t upset, believe me ;)

I was just pointing out that Nirvana came out, went huge, then just a couple of years later Offspring went massive with a very similar song. It just smelled of a deliberate conscious move, imo.

Well, I can’t see what was so blatantly similar about it, sure they are comparable, but hey, it was the 90s. A lot of songs have that sound. And even if it was deliberate, in my opinion The Offspring have proven themselves worthy, they have loads of good songs. So it doesn’t really matter. =)

And yeah, I don’t really get the U-Mass thing either, but I’ve heard people say it.

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Nirvana did “borrow” the odd riff, though, it wasn’t exactly a secret. Come as you are was lifted wholesale from a Killing Joke song. Rape me is kurt ripping HIMSELF off!

Kurt wrote that it was merely intentional and that he only noticed afterwards that it was very similar to ‘Eighties’. Both are excellent, I think, though.

Now Led Zeppelin, they are notorious for ripping everyone off.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:39

Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:

you are all talking about the U-Mass by pixies yeah ?

cant say ive ever noticed that before , will look into it ;)

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:41

Taunty Dan wrote:

Jelle wrote:
Now Led Zeppelin, they are notorious for ripping everyone off.

initially, yeah. But then all those early british r&b groups aped the blues records that started to appear on these shores in the 60s. Some died, some grew with each release. Led Zeppelin being one of them.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:45

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Jelle wrote:

Pfft, Robert Plant was even legally forced to give credit to someone on one album because he had stolen lyrics. Now that’s just low.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:47

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Taunty Dan wrote:

Jelle wrote:
Pfft, Robert Plant was even legally forced to give credit to someone on one album because he had stolen lyrics. Now that’s just low.

“pfft”?? :D

its not really “low”, mate. Its more just reinterpreting blues music for the masses. I’m sure willie dixon (i THINK it was willie dixon) wasn’t too bothered when the royalty cheques started to roll in…

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:52

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Jelle wrote:

Taunty Dan wrote:
“pfft”?? :D

its not really “low”, mate. Its more just reinterpreting blues music for the masses. I’m sure willie dixon (i THINK it was willie dixon) wasn’t too bothered when the royalty cheques started to roll in…

Ah, sorry, Belgian. I meant ‘Tsssk’. :p

Well, stealing lyrics is low in my eyes. But sure, royalties are indeed good. They could steal my lyrics too for cash. Anyways, I’m not even that into Led Zeppelin, the odd song is good, but I don’t really dig Plant’s vocals on quite a big part of the songs.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 15:58

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Jelle wrote:
Ah, sorry, Belgian. I meant ‘Tsssk’. :p

Don’t listen to Dan, ‘Pft’ has a time-honoured tradition here. :mad: ;)

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 16:06

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FNYANKEZ wrote:

Jelle wrote:
Pfft, Robert Plant was even legally forced to give credit to someone on one album because he had stolen lyrics. Now that’s just low.

I think it was for the Lemon Song on Zep III, which is just a cover of Howlin’ Wolf’s Killing floor, but on Zep III there was no reference or credit given to Wolf (it may have been written by Willie Dixon..but he didn’t get credit either)

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 16:28

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FNYANKEZ wrote:

If you can find it, listen to Free Drug Zone by Seaweed.

It’s not a complete rip-off but the main riff is VERY similar to Nausea.. but what really creeps me out was how it intros, and has a bit of a bass solo in the middle.
The chorus is completely different though. Can’t say it’s a blatant rip-off, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d been listening Nurse when they were writing the song.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 16:30

#16

matthew wrote:

Imagine how many rap artists should be sued then for using the line “Put your hands in the air and wave ‘em like you just dont care”.
Cliche of cliches.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 23:22

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Idlevice2 wrote:

Jelle wrote:
Now Led Zeppelin, they are notorious for ripping everyone off.

I always thought it was evryone ripping Zepplin off? Indie charts apear to be that way from 1972-date-forseeable future

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:39

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Taunty Dan wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:
I always thought it was evryone ripping Zepplin off? Indie charts apear to be that way from 1972-date-forseeable future

oh you’re absolutely right *cough*stone roses second coming*cough*the music, but they were, ahem, “reinterpreting” the blues in the first place. :)

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 11:12

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Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:

How about ” Your Time Has Come ” by Audioslave

sounding almost identical to ” Bad Seed ” By Metallica ?

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:09

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joseph? wrote:

theres a million songs that sound like the nowhere intro.

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:17

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Taunty Dan wrote:

joseph? wrote:
theres a million songs that sound like the nowhere intro.

like…?

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:18

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joseph? wrote:

ermm…

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:21

#23

joseph? wrote:

well there are!

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:21

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Taunty Dan wrote:

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:23

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Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:

joseph? wrote:
theres a million songs that sound like the nowhere intro.

Name 7 :D

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:33

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joseph? wrote:

stop stressing me! :(

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 13:34

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Idlevice2 wrote:

There’s a really obvious one…

‘Nowhere’ itself.

Did that get the ball rolling a bit?

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 22:05

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screamin melvin wrote:

i can maybe begin to see why somone might start to maybe think self esteem is a slightly similar to teen spirit.
but if thats a rip pff then theres billions of songs that have been ripped off by every band in the world

Posted on Mon, 1 May 2006 at 12:20

#29

Superunknown wrote:

Scott Weilands - Cool Kiss is a total rip off of Girls Against Boys’ - Click Click.

I think John Fogerty once got sued for ripping himself off. LOL.

Posted on Wed, 3 May 2006 at 02:24