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Started by poenkrokker in Musicians (Gear, Tabs & Lyrics)

i’m thinking of getting a new amp, so i want some advice from fellow-guitarists…
I’m looking for something loud enough for on-stage, maybe a top and an speakercabinet, Marshall style, but I want a nice clean sound as well, so does anybody have a good idea?

Posted on Sun, 23 April 2006 at 11:18

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#1

Idlevice2 wrote:

Solid State- Randall
Valve- Take your pick from anything but Fender, Marshall or Orange

Posted on Sun, 23 April 2006 at 15:38

#2

poenkrokker wrote:

Cheers!

Posted on Sun, 23 April 2006 at 19:18

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viking_pooh wrote:

Not Marshall, thyere only really good for classic rock if you own a proper gibson.

from what i’ve heard live, VHT are really nice, helemt use them and page’s guiatrs sounded as beautiful as on record. bit pricey though.

again, not tryed one myself but andy’s been sounding ultra ncie through his Framus touring rig of recent, and the wildhearts were sounding pretty godd with it to.

just go try some out, and remeber if strapped for cash youre probably better off getting a decent valve combo and borrowing a cab from someone if you need extra volume when playing live.

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 00:22

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josepholney wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:

Valve- Take your pick from anything but Fender, Marshall or Orange

?????

I couldn’t disagree more…

I work as a sound engineer for live bands and hear LOTS and lots of amps all the time. Some of the best guitar sounds I’ve heard have definitely come from Fender and Marshall amps.

IF you’re looking for the Therapy sound, get yourself a marshall; andy has used the JCM 900 extensively.

However you say you want a good clean, so I adivse you to consider a newer Marshall such as the JCM 2000, as the clean on this amp is really quite good.
I also agree with viking_pooh: a combo is often more than sufficient unless you’re planning on playing stadium rock shows! and much cheaper(and LIGHTER!) to boot. A combo should be plenty loud enough for your needs.

I would also recommend that you try one of Line 6’s modelling amps; such as the combo’s they do. These are OBSCENELY loud and produce some AWESOME tones

Or if you can spend a bit more cash, a boutique amp would be an even better choice, such as a Diezel, Framus, VHT… though we’re going slightly into METAL territory here.

Hope that helps.

Joe.

Posted on Mon, 24 April 2006 at 10:31

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Idlevice2 wrote:

josepholney wrote:

I would also recommend that you try one of Line 6’s modelling amps; such as the combo’s they do. These are OBSCENELY loud and produce some AWESOME tones

Or if you can spend a bit more cash, a boutique amp would be an even better choice, such as a Diezel, Framus, VHT… though we’re going slightly into METAL territory here.

Hope that helps.

Joe.

Wow… a sound engineer that LIKES Line 6 amps? You are indeed a rare creature, sir.

I would definitly say that if you can afford it, Diezel, Framus, VHT and especially Soldano ARE the amps to own, but to me, Fender sound way too top end, buzzy and annpying, orange are the buzziest things in existance and Marshalls are one-trick ponies with crap clean chanells almost exclusivly. I think that for your money, Hughs and Ketner, Randall and peavey make better amps than Marshall.

Posted on Tue, 25 April 2006 at 15:16

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josepholney wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:

Wow… a sound engineer that LIKES Line 6 amps? You are indeed a rare creature, sir.

Yeah, there’s a great deal of snobbery towards modelling amps with musos, BUT…

If it sounds good, IT IS GOOD.

Nuff said.

Joe.

Posted on Tue, 25 April 2006 at 17:29

#7

Idlevice2 wrote:

I actually like them, too. But you couldn’t really call me a sound engineer.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 11:53

#8

GreenThing wrote:

viking_pooh wrote:

Not Marshall, there only really good for classic rock if you own a proper gibson.

Not true. I use a Squire Strat and a Std Tele through a TSL100 head and 4x12 cab. It sounds fantastic!

The beauty of the TSL range is the 3 independant channels. The clean is really nice, the crunch is as crunchy as you like and the lead has even more gain.

For extreme metal you may wish to consider a rectifier amp, but for a nice all rounder, I would recommend the TSL.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 16:55

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Andy wrote:

i’ve got a fender hot rod and the clean sound on that puts a lump in your pocket. It responds very well to distortion pedals aswell- a big muff sounds huge through it.

Posted on Wed, 26 April 2006 at 23:01

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FNYANKEZ wrote:

I’ve got a Marshall JCM 2000 line TSL122 combo. At 100Watts is more than loud enough, unless you are playing to a big hall. I like the power cutting button, which kicks the output down to about 30% normal, but it cooks the tubes more so you get a fatter sound.

The clean is really nice on it as well. Playing either my SG Special w/P-90s or Strat using the neck pick-ups sound real warm (sound especially cool through a uni-vibe).

Little pricey though around $1100 a year or so ago.

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 00:11

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Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

GreenThing wrote:

The beauty of the TSL range is the 3 independant channels. The clean is really nice, the crunch is as crunchy as you like and the lead has even more gain.

I play/own a JCM900 4400 Dual Reverb run through a 1969A 4x12 Marshall Cab - I played a gig a while a go and the rhythm guitarist ran through a TSL which belonged to one of the other bands - I couldn’t match it for guts, it just blew my amp away. I’ve got an Award Session JD75 distortion pedal which is a pre amp as well. I can’t get any sort of good distortion from my amp without some serious volume; hence for any kind of Rock/Metal/Punk I always need a pedal – and I would seriously recommended this pedal to anyone – you can pick up second hand ones from ebay – check http://www.award-session.com/welcome.html

It is true, I can only get a Led Zep distortion at best from this amp, hence try and pick up a cheap JCM 800 and choose a good pedal - If you like Reverb then get the JCM900 but be assured you can’t get a good hard Rock/Punk/Metal sound from these Marshalls alone! Laney make great amps, I’ve owned a few try them - there pretty reasonable in price to

I was always under the impression Andy used JCM 800’s before switching to those totally fucking awesome Framus amps - To be fare the guitar work on OCFA is totally amazing. It’s really nice to hear some great production and layered guitar parts, this is something that been missing from T? albums since Shameless in my opinion, but hey they wouldn’t be a typical great T? album if it sounded like its predecessors.

:)

Posted on Thu, 27 April 2006 at 00:16

#12

Idlevice2 wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

great production
:)

Que?

Posted on Fri, 28 April 2006 at 10:26

#13

Jelle wrote:

I’m considering buying the Marshall MG100HDFX, anyone think this is a good idea?

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 18:48

#14

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:

Que?

?? Sorry you’ve lost me mate

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 19:12

#15

Taunty Dan wrote:

Jelle wrote:

I’m considering buying the Marshall MG100HDFX, anyone think this is a good idea?

you can’t go wrong with a marshall mate, in my experience. Go for it!

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 19:53

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Rico wrote:

Jelle wrote:

I’m considering buying the Marshall MG100HDFX, anyone think this is a good idea?

I have that exact amp its really is an excellent piece of kit and its built like a tank as well so its survived 3 years of hard gigging with me and it will probably last quite a while yet.

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 20:25

#17

Jelle wrote:

Ah, that’s good to hear. Thanks. :)

Posted on Tue, 2 May 2006 at 20:28

#18

Mastertarium wrote:

It´s better to buy a tube amp!
Transistor Amp are cheap, but the sound is
boring!

Go to a musicshop and test some amps.

Look at this:

http://www.zzounds.com/item—PEVVKING212

It´s a tube amp! The sound is very well! And it´s Cheap!!!!

Posted on Wed, 3 May 2006 at 08:39

#19

Jelle wrote:

Yeah, I know, but amps are really expensive here and I can’t afford tube amps. I haven’t seen that one in the stores. :*(

Posted on Wed, 3 May 2006 at 21:23

#20

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Idlevice2 wrote:

Take your pick from anything but Fender…

My Fender Princeton Chorus Amp is awesome had it for 2 years now and get pretty much any sound I’m after out of it. Looks ugly and vintage but sounds incredibly gorgeous! :cool:

Posted on Wed, 3 May 2006 at 21:45

#21

poenkrokker wrote:

I think i will get a tube-driven amp, probably a Marshall or so, and use that one for the rougher stuff. The old 1977 100 watt transistor amp which i already have is sufficient enough for the clean work so i’ll put an A/B switch in between. 2 amps, but probably the best of 2 worlds…
Thanks everybody for the advice!

Posted on Thu, 4 May 2006 at 09:52

#22

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

Title: VOX!!!

At the moment im running a vox 60watt valvetronix head into various cabs and wot not.Altho this is a modelling style head,its half valve as well.Its very very loud.Ive had during shows only running it on 30watts, and not even half way round the volume knob.Its a beauty cos you have all the rectifer amps(messa) and the old vox ac30/black tweed and wot not.So you can get the clean lush tones of an old fender combo, and the shit your pants brilliance of a messa.Which If I had more money I would buy a messa rectifer stack, or a framus like andys.

Posted on Thu, 4 May 2006 at 21:49

#23

Idlevice2 wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

?? Sorry you’ve lost me mate

It’s Spanish for ‘What?’

I don’t like the production on OCFA at all. It’s like Pedro didn’t know what he was doing- he recorded it live (great idea, but…) then he over-produced it to a fault and basicly did everything in his power to kill the live energy- no punch in the drums or bass; thin, whiney guitars etc. The production just sounds confused.

Posted on Sun, 7 May 2006 at 16:28

#24

Jelle wrote:

^^
You are right.

Posted on Mon, 8 May 2006 at 14:11

#25

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Hey has anyone bought any pickups lately? Just thought I’d like to mention that I bought me a lovely Seymour Duncan today :)

(Before changing the message boards’ software in August 2007 this post had a file attachment, which may return in the future)

Posted on Mon, 8 May 2006 at 14:24

#26

Taunty Dan wrote:

andys gibson sg wrote:

Hey has anyone bought any pickups lately? Just thought I’d like to mention that I bought me a lovely Seymour Duncan today :)

niiiiiice :cool:

What guitars this going in?

Posted on Mon, 8 May 2006 at 15:26

#27

josepholney wrote:

andys gibson sg wrote:

Hey has anyone bought any pickups lately? Just thought I’d like to mention that I bought me a lovely Seymour Duncan today :)

I had the invader for a time but got rid of it cos it was too bassy.

I got a Bareknuckle Warpig last year which is also a bit too dark sounding; not as hot as I thought it would be either…
I think that’s because it’s Alnico V and I’m using it in a mahogany guitar; I’m going for EMGs baby!

The ULTIMATE metal pickup; I need clarity, and the pig just ain’t giving it…

Joe.

Posted on Mon, 8 May 2006 at 15:37

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andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Taunty Dan wrote:

niiiiiice :cool:

What guitars this going in?

My epiphone les paul - it needs some beef ;)

Posted on Mon, 8 May 2006 at 16:00

#29

Idlevice2 wrote:

josepholney wrote:

I’m going for EMGs baby!

The ULTIMATE metal pickup; I need clarity, and the pig just ain’t giving it…

Joe.

Metalhead I may be, but I’ve never liked EMGs as much as standard P-90s, let alone Seymour Duncan… or even the holy DiMarzio. Now THAT’s a pickup :)

Posted on Wed, 10 May 2006 at 18:36

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ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

Maybe you should try the seymour duncan Dimebuckers.Or maybe a d’marrzio(sp) super distortion humbucker.i use both, very high output and good all round!

Posted on Mon, 15 May 2006 at 23:32

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