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Started by Brendon

Rene,

I’m really surprised that you chose to go with this board rather than create your own ASP solution. I remember talking with you a while back, and you mentioned that you thought these boards have “too many features” (which I agree with). The PHP is fast, the features are well-built and the code is rock-solid, but I always thought you’d want to do it yourself. I suppose with time constraints it would be impossible to do all of this yourself though. Are you planning on doing the rest of the site with PHP now?

Posted on Sat, 27 April 2002 at 07:08

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Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:

Brendon — you’re 100% correct.

I have been planning to make the new message boards myself for quite some time, and even started working on it. I had a very basic version ready in PHP and MySQL. I still would like to continue making my own message boards, but there are several reasons that I chose for the current option during development.

The most important one is, as you already mentioned, time constraints. If I would have continued making my own message boards, they would not have been ready by now, and all my spare time in the time to come would have gone into developing the boards, instead of working on the rest of Teethgrinder.com and the offical T? site.

Another -although less, but still important- reason is the fact that I develop web applications for a living, which is great fun, but also gets tiresome if I get home after work, eat, sit behind my computer, and continue programming.

Now that I use these vBulletin message boards, I can devote my time to (1) actually ‘managing the community’ itself, (2) tweaking on details to improve usability instead of resolving bugs/programming new features and (3) add other stuff to both sites. When there is a bug, security problem or newly developed feature I simply download and install an update instead of spending hours/days programming.

I still agree with you on the fact that too much features is not a good thing. I do believe however, like we discussed as well, that some new features which weren’t available in the old boards are very good to have, like searching previous messages, pseudo-html (links, etc.) and more ‘community-features’ like a member-list.

My plans for the (near) future as far as Therapy? web-sites are concerned is improving usability on the message boards, finishing and launching the new official site and improving Teethgrinder.com.

Finally, regarding the usability issue, I have had various people offering me feedback on the new message boards and those will help me improving them usability wise. If you would like to get involved I would love to hear your detailed feedback on what things you found complicated and what you would like to improve / see improved. Get in touch with me if you want to help out. Thanks!

To answer your last question, yes, I wll be using PHP to make the new official site, but there won’t be a lot of very ‘technical’ features in it. The main focus is content. Teethgrinder.com will remain ASP based for the time being. Getting into different languages/platforms adds a bit of extra fun for me and keeps/gets me experienced in a broader scope of my field of ‘expertise’. Cheers!

Posted on Mon, 29 April 2002 at 22:27

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Alex wrote:

Hey… I can symphatise with Rene — I have been (on and off) writing a message board system for the suicidepact.com site for over two years (perl and MySQL)… but a) I also work with computers and sometimes it’s the last thing you want to do when you get home, and b) sometimes you just question if it’s really worth it…

… it’s not like when I started the web site: I had huge quantities of spare time on my hands (basically by not attending university lectures, but that’s another story) and I could get a lot done quickly. Nowadays, that isn’t the case (I am getting much slower with age!)

My primary reason for the web site was to teach myself (what was then) basic HTML. I have made a few changes (outside of the content) over time, and have been hoping to get some sort of message boards up for some time. It probably never will happen, but you never know, I may end up with huge quantities of time again at some point in the future, and would still be a good exercise…

But sometimes it’s just not feasible and you have to make do with listening to T? and getting drunk instead :-)

Posted on Tue, 30 April 2002 at 08:40

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