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OCFA - Best Album

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Started by Zorn in General Therapy? Topics

Can’t believe the negativity surrounding this album. I honestly think it’s superb.

With the risk of being controversial, if you don’t like the record and therefore the band, MOVE ON, you’re not a fan anymore.

Zorn.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 00:41

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Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

i love the record, its just the production thats letting it down. it definately 1 of their best.

this is my album ‘chart’ starting with my best:

troublegum
NANE
high anxiety
OCFA
infernal love
semi-detached
babyteeth
shameless
nurse
suicide-pact u 1st
pleasure death

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 02:41

#2

josepholney wrote:

Zorn wrote:

With the risk of being controversial, if you don’t like the record and therefore the band, MOVE ON, you’re not a fan anymore.

Zorn.

What UTTER BOLLOCKS Zorn. I love this band just as much as anyone; shame OCFA didn’t do it for me.

Joe.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 08:51

#3

stuntbelly wrote:

Title: MORON ALERT

Zorn wrote:

Can’t believe the negativity surrounding this album. I honestly think it’s superb.

With the risk of being controversial, if you don’t like the record and therefore the band, MOVE ON, you’re not a fan anymore.

Zorn.

:mad:

Therapy? make every album unique. Now thats a good thing but because they have been going for so long not every fan will like every album. Its NOT cos your a fan anymore its just your own personal tatse. I love this album. It took a couple of listens to it and there are thing like the Mix on Andys voice which I hate but play the songs live and its a different story.

I am a fan. I’ve spent thousands on this band I love.. But its not their best album

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 09:39

#4

The one and only Y wrote:

Chart, Starting with the best album:

Nurse
Suicide Pact - You first
Pleasure Death
Never Apologise Never Explain
Babyteeth
Troublegum
High Anxiety
Infernal Love
Shameless
Semi-Detached
One Cure fits all (because the productions worse, live it turns out great)

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 10:52

#5

Alex wrote:

Agree the opening post is rubbish. I am still a fan, a very big fan. And I am incredibly disappointed by OCFA. I am however glad that other people do like it, of course. But it doesn’t rattle my bones.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 10:54

#6

The one and only Y wrote:

I´m still a fan. T? make incredible records and every sounds different. Maybe you like that record, but I not!.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 11:05

#7

richboy wrote:

today’s album list:

Infernal Love
Babyteeth
Never Apologise Never Explain
Suicide Pact - You First
Semi-Detached
Troublegum
Pleasure Death
Nurse
One Cure Fits All
High Anxiety
Shameless

tommorrow it might be different.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 14:04

#8

Shade wrote:

Saying someone’s not a fan anymore when they don’t adore the newest album might work with some bands, but clearly not Therapy?

If everyone who didn’t like Semi-Detatched stopped liking the band, the fancount would be almost halved. If everyone who didn’t think Suicide Pact, Shameless (!) or High Anxiety was awesome stopped being able to apreciate the band on a whole or have chances of liking subsequent releases the fanbase would be restricted to a couple of thousand die-hards, nothing more.

Therapy? doesn’t follow a single concrete road head on, they kind of stagger about like a drunk lunatic. I rather think that’s brilliant.

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 20:36

#9

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

I think its amazing that people can list their fave t? albums in order, me… I find that impossible! :cool:

Posted on Sun, 20 August 2006 at 23:49

#10

buffalo-boy wrote:

i’ll be a fan no matter how muchi get slagged for not liking OCFA. Solidarity brothers! ;)

Posted on Mon, 21 August 2006 at 07:30

#11

suicidalmaniac wrote:

Yeah, OCFA just don’t do it for me. :( I liked RainHitsConcrete EP better…

Posted on Mon, 21 August 2006 at 11:56

#12

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

OCFA is just great. And I know what I’m talking about

Posted on Mon, 21 August 2006 at 22:19

#13

Charlie wrote:

I like the songs but the production is horrible. Just terrible.

Posted on Mon, 21 August 2006 at 23:06

#14

perper wrote:

Jeez! Sorry all, and I know it’s an old discussion for me to bring up/answer at this stage, but the thoughts expressed here by some T? fans are interesting.

To me, OCFA has some really great songs and some slightly worse production values (especially regarding the drums). I also really like SP-YF, but not every single track. Etc etc for all T?-albums; one persons’ beer is another’s piss. Sort of…

Am I thus a disbeliever, a heretic or what (ie not fanatically approving of all the tunes T?’s written over the years)? Probably. Maybe…

But who cares; we’re all here because of our liking/loving of T? To me, that is what really matters! :D

Best wishes,
PerPer

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 08:18

#15

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

I agree with Zorn

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 09:54

#16

Dr. Bigjoint wrote:

I’d say if you like OCFA you’re not a fan. Fans deserve better albums.

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 11:13

#17

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

Yes but we’re back to “proper” Therapy? now.

I’ve just copied an old post I made when this topic came up before…

Therapy? were never a heavy metal band but they were teetering dangerously close on HA and NANE. Plus there’s no wanky throw-away tracks like “My Voodoo Doll” or “Rock You Monkeys” on OCFA.

Even reading through the meanings behind the songs shows they’re back to their best - tracks that tackle schizophrenia, alcoholism, a schoolgirl’s murder etc that you can sing along and nod your head to - that’s what caucasian psychosis, nurse, troublegum etc were all about. Dark as f**k topics buried under bouncey melody. Even all those literary references after the lyrics shows (to me) that Andy’s got his thinking cap screwed on tight here.

So far OCFA is the only T? album I wouldn’t skip a track on (not counting Babyteeth as an album). Cheers!

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 11:36

#18

Jobrok wrote:

Dr. Bigjoint wrote:

I’d say if you like OCFA you’re not a fan. Fans deserve better albums.

What an absolutely stupid comment…!!!

That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on WoM.

If you don’t like the album! That’s fine. Don’t fucking listen to it. Nobody’s forcing you.

So some T? fans aren’t as impressed by OCFA as other T? releases. SO WHAT??? THERAPY? have been slogging away at it for over 15 years. So they didn’t match up to YOUR expactations this time. Well they did match up to most other T? fans expectations.

Now give it fucking rest about how shit YOU think OCFA is.
We’ve read it all a hundred times already on this forum from the same handful of people who keep dredging it up.
All you’re doing is shit stirring.

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:43

#19

Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

I like the production, it sounds very similar to the hardcore bands of the late 80’s. and i think t? wanted the sound they got as they actually recorded the album onto tapes instead of computers if i remeber correctly.

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 12:53

#20

Divers (Simon) wrote:

I do agree with Jobrok, this is starting to get very boring going over and over the same ground all the time. Some people like it others don’t, thats life. I just can’t believe this is still going on all these months later!

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 13:20

#21

buffalo-boy wrote:

yeah, zorn’s original post was meant to nark people which i thought was fun. For some reason everyone is going on about what they think of OCFA…again! Shut up! Or go to the ‘what do you think of OCFA’ thread!

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 14:58

#22

josepholney wrote:

Dermot wrote:

Therapy? were never a heavy metal band

This is also bollocks.

Therapy were equal parts metal and punk on Troublegum, and I think most people will agree that this album makes up a big part of their sound.

Joe.

Posted on Tue, 22 August 2006 at 18:02

#23

Dermot (The Derm) wrote:

Fair enough.

Dermot

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 09:42

#24

buffalo-boy wrote:

Does anyone care really? Listen to Motorhead - are they a punk or metal band? A: None, they just rock!
Same with with all ROCK bands.

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 13:29

#25

The one and only Y wrote:

They´re Rock N ´Roll!!! :rolleyes: ;)

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 14:25

#26

Dennis wrote:

Zorn wrote:

Can’t believe the negativity surrounding this album. I honestly think it’s superb.

With the risk of being controversial, if you don’t like the record and therefore the band, MOVE ON, you’re not a fan anymore.

Zorn.

Oh my god, you are right!

Suddenly, all the older records, the ones I prefer to OCFA, suddenly sound shit!

How did THAT happen?!

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 15:19

#27

josepholney wrote:

Well said…

Joe.

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 15:50

#28

Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:

The one and only Y wrote:

They´re Rock N ´Roll!!! :rolleyes: ;)

so are t? then, i would say motorhead are the band therapy? are closest to genre wise.

Posted on Wed, 23 August 2006 at 16:39

#29

The one and only Y wrote:

Yeah…

Posted on Thu, 24 August 2006 at 09:41

#30

buffalo-boy wrote:

i think so. Obviously you can’t call Cradle of Filth just a rock band. Just the image alone means they are going to appeal to a certain type of person.
Maybe the Wildhearts too? they are rock n roll with a bit of punk, metal riffs thrown in and a bit of 12 bar blues.

Posted on Thu, 24 August 2006 at 12:13

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