#391
varshamail@tiscali.c wrote:
Title: SLF
I’ve stopped buying SLF releases but like T? they remain brilliant live.Saw them for the seventh time in March when they finally came to Bournemouth & they were truly amazing.I will never tire of Jake’s between song mumblings & banter!
Posted on Thu, 24 August 2006 at 22:52
#392
buffalo-boy wrote:
Yeah i really wanna see em live - Alternative Ulster is one of the best rock songs ever (apart from the production!) Does anyone know why it sounds completely tinny compared to the rest of IM?
Posted on Fri, 25 August 2006 at 07:08
#393
Edz wrote:
varshamail@tiscali.c wrote:
I’ve stopped buying SLF releases but like T? they remain brilliant live.Saw them for the seventh time in March when they finally came to Bournemouth & they were truly amazing.I will never tire of Jake’s between song mumblings & banter!
Damn right! Live, SLF still cut it BEEG time. As for Inflammable Material, I admit I like its rough and readiness, but my faves are the Peel Sessions CD (I think there’s two BBC sessions, actually) and the live one “Hanx”, which certainly does Alternative Ulster justice, and has a cracking version of Johnny Was.
T? Live, well they just get better. It amazes me the sound they manage to produce as a three piece, notably no less “big” than when they had two guitars.
Yay live music :)
Posted on Fri, 25 August 2006 at 17:21
#394
viking_pooh wrote:
well OCFA is certainly a classic, was feeling like shit earlier so went for a long walk with it on andit helped sort my head out a bit, and in true T? style, is was pissing it down during Rain Hits Concrete. few issues with some of the production but its still great.
Posted on Sun, 27 August 2006 at 15:13
#395
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
Just To Clarify :p
I like the songs.
The band are safe :D
I dont like the production.
Songs, Good.
Posted on Sun, 27 August 2006 at 16:11
#396
buffalo-boy wrote:
i listened to it last nite and can’t see why people have a prob with the production - its cool!
I even sort of enjoy listening to the album as a whole now. My problem with it is that I personally think 3 tracks in a row (Lose It all, DSA & Unconsoled) are weaker than the rest which to me is unforgivable.
But then again, i can’t think of many albums I think are great from start to finish.!
Posted on Tue, 29 August 2006 at 07:38
#397
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
I think ‘Into the Light’ is a funny one with me. I enjoy the riff that runs through it but its something about the sound there…??
The production values don’t sway me too much. I’ve heard worst albums in worser quality :(
Posted on Tue, 29 August 2006 at 11:24
#398
Billy Blue wrote:
I possibly think Into the Light and Lose It All should have been split up. Not that they are poor tracks, I really like them, but I think they would benefit from having a more obvious/immediate track like DSA between them.
Posted on Tue, 29 August 2006 at 17:40
#399
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
I however, do like when ‘Lose it all’ kicks in - nice :p
Posted on Tue, 29 August 2006 at 20:33
#400
Gimme Back My Brainsaw (fuck democracy) wrote:
Title: (split from Exclusive Therapy? Webgig)
Altobelli wrote:
Oh by the way, OCFA is the most disappointing Therapy? album ever, there, had to say that!
how is it dissapointing, you should know by now if youve been into the band since the troublegum experience, that whatever you expect from them they will do something completly diffferent and thats one of the things i love so much, i wish people would stop complaining that OCFA isnt like what they thought it was going to be like.
oh and welcome to the wom by the way
:)
Posted on Fri, 1 September 2006 at 21:31
#401
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
Posted on Fri, 1 September 2006 at 22:50
#402
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
I guess theres still some out there expecting Troublegum 2.
Can’t see that happening some how.
Posted on Sat, 2 September 2006 at 01:46
#403
Altobelli wrote:
My point about OCFA being disappointing is that simply the songs on it are average, very few standout tracks. The fire and rawness of NANE that stirred my soul with songs like ‘Rise Up’ and ‘Panic’in particular just isn’t there. Apart from ‘Lose It All’ there is absolutely nothing on it that does anything for me. I never want to see Therapy? doing a re-hash of Troublegum, one thing I’ve always applauded the band for was their willingness to try different things but sometimes this has been to their downfall. NANE was the return to the band as a three-piece, the way it should’ve always stayed and hence the return to form in my eyes. High Anxiety showed promise but with NANE minus the extra baggage of McCarrick and the inept drumming of Hopkins the band rediscovered a focus I believe was missing since Troblegum. Andy, Michael and Neil (a proper drummer!!!)had something going with NANE but with OCFA I think they may have rushed things a bit. By the way guys and gals, thanks for the welcome, much obliged!
Posted on Sun, 3 September 2006 at 22:28
#404
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
Hmmm, my girlfriend said it sounded rushed. And that NANE showed real power.
Interesting opinions.
Posted on Mon, 4 September 2006 at 00:14
#405
FNYANKEZ wrote:
andys gibson sg wrote:
I guess theres still some out there expecting Troublegum 2.
Can’t see that happening some how.
Not expecting Troublegum 2 in terms of the songwriting, but it’d be nice to have a producer which could deliver that sort of sound and mix…
Posted on Mon, 4 September 2006 at 00:25
#406
Nausea wrote:
Altobelli wrote:
My point about OCFA being disappointing is that simply the songs on it are average, very few standout tracks. The fire and rawness of NANE that stirred my soul with songs like ‘Rise Up’ and ‘Panic’in particular just isn’t there. Apart from ‘Lose It All’ there is absolutely nothing on it that does anything for me. I never want to see Therapy? doing a re-hash of Troublegum, one thing I’ve always applauded the band for was their willingness to try different things but sometimes this has been to their downfall. NANE was the return to the band as a three-piece, the way it should’ve always stayed and hence the return to form in my eyes. High Anxiety showed promise but with NANE minus the extra baggage of McCarrick and the inept drumming of Hopkins the band rediscovered a focus I believe was missing since Troblegum. Andy, Michael and Neil (a proper drummer!!!)had something going with NANE but with OCFA I think they may have rushed things a bit. By the way guys and gals, thanks for the welcome, much obliged!
i’ll second that.. NANE was a true return to form.. i was very disappointed with OCFA.
Posted on Sat, 9 September 2006 at 01:21
#407
buffalo-boy wrote:
im glad someone agrees hopkins wasn’t a good drummer for T?!
He was too ‘rock’ and his style very plodding.
Posted on Mon, 11 September 2006 at 08:07
#408
lazloman2002 wrote:
there is a fuzzy slowness about the production on the new album,the sound is not as immediate or as in yer face as the best therapy stuff.
Posted on Tue, 3 October 2006 at 18:41
#409
lazloman2002 wrote:
the bird who reviewed it in hot press gave it 6 out of ten primarily because she hated the number of three word titles
Posted on Tue, 3 October 2006 at 18:42
#410
ziggy wrote:
Posted on Tue, 3 October 2006 at 20:04
#411
ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:
Title: demented are go…
Athough OCFA isnt one of my favourite albums, there are a few tunes on there that I think are some T?’s finest.Tunes like Sprung, Private Nobody and Fear Of God are very strong because they follow the trademark T? formula.The off/dance beats,the monster bass,the hook like riff, and the dementedly sinister lyrics.I think they were trying to capture some of the singalong choruses of troublegum with some of the other tunes, like maybe our white Noise and D.S.A.
I get still get off on some the lyrics on this record even if Im not keen on the tune,which makes it difficult for me not to like this one.I can understand why Andy had said he’s fed up with writting lyrics.It must be very hard to stay as sinicle and come up with stuff as twisted as their past albums.(“james joyce is fucking my sister,…caught between needing and the need to be real,…what if no-one meets me on th other side…”)
Albums like SP-YF, NANE, BABYTEETH,troublegum and Nurse are all killer because, they have that added element of mental unstability, and a franctic element that I love.OCFA doesnt have as much of these elements in it.A song like Rust in my opinion is a lot stronger than say..walk through darkness.BUT I will not stop listening to this album, because it is a crackin album!
and another thing… Shameless is another corker!
I love THERAPY? and every album to me (even if i dont like every song) is another example of just how darn good these guys are at what they do.
Posted on Tue, 3 October 2006 at 21:42
#412
buffalo-boy wrote:
lazloman2002 wrote:
the bird who reviewed it in hot press gave it 6 out of ten primarily because she hated the number of three word titles
LOL. I think Cairns was a bit lazy with his ideas this time round, he could have written much better songs out of the ideas they had i think. Still don’t like this album at all :(
Posted on Wed, 4 October 2006 at 07:16
#413
Evil T wrote:
I think OFCA is pretty good especially since I had no expectations towards it. I haven’t heard all Therapy? albums but this one seems to be the only one by far which I can put on to play in the background without concentrating to it. Can’t do that with the other albums.
Favorite songs at the moment are Sprung, Our White Noise and DSA. Into The Light is quite horrible.
Posted on Wed, 4 October 2006 at 15:08
#414
ziggy wrote:
I used to think that it was bad BUT it’s fucking great :D After hearing the songs live and listening to them a hundred times I really like it now.
Posted on Wed, 4 October 2006 at 17:13
#415
IvanJ wrote:
I just read the whole thread. :D
Well, I disagree with all OCFA unbelievers. ;)
When I first heard the album I thought “uhh.. okkkay”. It was just ok - average.
Then I tried it again after a couple of days, when I was in a different mood and whoa - I started to like that album more and more.
The song Heart beats hits was particularly dull to me the first time, but now it’s one of my favourites.
And I already know that feeling - when the worst song goes to the no.1 position, it means that album is awesome, it just needs time and has a growing songs.
Growers = more fun!
What someone here already said, this album is very consistent and all songs just fit! Unlike NANE which sounds more like a collection of (great) songs.
It has some T? classics like: Our white noise, rain hits concrete, sprung, private nobody, fear of god. If you don’t like that songs how come that you like T? at all?! Hmmm…
The only stuff that I don’t really care for is Deluded son and DSA (I like the whole song except the chorus, but I really like “so scared of dying” part). They are ok, but not really my cup of tea.
But when I look at entire T? collection, there wasn’t a single album where I liked _all_ songs. Maybe it was infernal love…but…
And oh yeah, The Rain hits concrete EP is a bliss!!! Play on, Cocaine eyes, Hard work - just GREAT tunes! I like OCFA even more!! Therapy? alone did a better production on these tracks (drums-wise) than Pedro.
Posted on Sat, 31 March 2007 at 23:36
#416
johnny_knoxville wrote:
for me Rain Hits Concrete and Sprung are Therapy? classics…
but the rest is just average…
it doesn’t come close to the power of NANE or the lyrical prowess of Infernal Love…
But it is original, and every album they bring out they don’t conform to a mould which they have to be commended on.
Mr Knoxville
Posted on Sat, 31 March 2007 at 23:42
#417
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
I played the album for some oldschool punks (over 40 near 50:)) here in Tampere who knew TG and IL and they were very surprised! It was nice to hear them saying that T? has changed their sound and the songs are very catchy and rockin´and there still is the sound of which you can mark T?: Andy´s voice and his riffs and guitar playing.
so if OCFA didn´t made any young fans here, the old ones are back:)
Posted on Fri, 20 July 2007 at 20:08
#418
andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:
Its still a treat to be playing this in ones mp3 player whilst on the way to work in the shitty english weather :)
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 13:13
#419
Muskeg (Yes, It's me.) wrote:
Altobelli wrote:
My point about OCFA being disappointing is that simply the songs on it are average, very few standout tracks. The fire and rawness of NANE that stirred my soul with songs like ‘Rise Up’ and ‘Panic’in particular just isn’t there. Apart from ‘Lose It All’ there is absolutely nothing on it that does anything for me. I never want to see Therapy? doing a re-hash of Troublegum, one thing I’ve always applauded the band for was their willingness to try different things but sometimes this has been to their downfall. NANE was the return to the band as a three-piece, the way it should’ve always stayed and hence the return to form in my eyes. High Anxiety showed promise but with NANE minus the extra baggage of McCarrick and the inept drumming of Hopkins the band rediscovered a focus I believe was missing since Troblegum. Andy, Michael and Neil (a proper drummer!!!)had something going with NANE but with OCFA I think they may have rushed things a bit. By the way guys and gals, thanks for the welcome, much obliged!
LMFAO
Graham Inept !!! :D:D
Graham was their best drummer so far. :D
Posted on Sat, 21 July 2007 at 15:40
#420
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
We have discussed this a zillion times now, I really don’t get how you can find his drumming better than Fyffes or Neils - please explain.
I find his style pretty basic, lifeless and just pretty boring to be honest. Nothing against the dude, I chatted to him at a gig in germany, but I think T? lacked power when he was behind the kit.
SPYF was a highlight, but that was more down to good songwriting than his drumming.
As for OCFA, what this thread is actually about, I think it is a decent solid effort. There are a few throwaway tracks on it, but the good ones are amongst my fav Therapy? tracks to date. I am not 100% pleased with the way it was recorded, but hey, the tried something different.
A worthy addition to a great back catalogue.
Posted on Sun, 22 July 2007 at 11:22
