#31
RobbyVDH wrote:
Like:
Dave Lombardo
Raymond Herrera
Joey Jordison
Lars Ulrich until 1988
Igor Cavalera
Roy Mayorga (ex-Soulfly, ex-Sepultura, Stone Sour)
Dave McClain (Machine Head)
Nicko McBrain
Fyfe Ewing
Neil Cooper
Mike Wengren (Disturbed)
Shannon Larkin (Godsmack)
Vinnie Paul
Joe Nunez (Soulfly)
Dave Grohl
Dislike:
Graham Hopkins (sorry I’ll never forgive him for fucking
up both Teethgrinder and Unbeliever at Pinkpop 1996)
Lars Ulrich after 1988
Matt Sorum
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 16:06
#32
CS (Colin S) wrote:
Likes:
Graham Hopkins
Fyfe Ewing
Neil Cooper
Thomas Lang
Early Lars Ulrich
Whoever Slayer’s drummer is
Neil Peart
Chad Smith
Will Champion *waits for abuse*
Dave Grohl
KoRn’s drummer
Dislikes:
Joey Jordison and drummers that aren’t in my like list.
:D
Colinx
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 20:37
#33
Charlie wrote:
Will Champion ? :p
Yes you were right to expect abuse for that one colin? :p
All he does is whack everything as hard as he can !!
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 21:34
#34
Spaceball 1 wrote:
Squall wrote:
And who mentioned Fyfe and Neil and left out Graham, go and listen to SP:YF or Semi Detached as loud as fucking possible and you will change your mind..Graham is a genius.
Here we go again :rolleyes:
Graham was and will always remain a regular rock drummer. nothing special about him. He’s not bad, but he’s not god’s gift to the drummer community either. Fyfe and Neil on the other hand… :D
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 22:35
#35
Spaceball 1 wrote:
Colin? wrote:
Whoever Slayer’s drummer is
:eek:
The mighty Lombardo of course!
Now go write it a 100 times on the blackboard: “I will not forget mr. Lombardo’s name” ;)
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 22:36
#36
gapu wrote:
Quote (author unknown):
[i]
Dislike:
Graham Hopkins (sorry I’ll never forgive him for fucking
up both Teethgrinder and Unbeliever at Pinkpop 1996)
that’s ridiculous!
you can’t say you dislike him because he fucked up 2 songs at that concert!
and if you remember: everyone was judging neil when i joined therapy?. a lot of t? concerts where pretty shite because neil was not yet ready to play along to therapy’s songs… i’d say it was similiar with graham in 1996. he was new to the group as well and had probably some difficulties to play along to teethgrinder…
Posted on Sat, 9 December 2006 at 23:56
#37
CS (Colin S) wrote:
RobbyVDH wrote:
Dislike:
Graham Hopkins (sorry I’ll never forgive him for fucking
up both Teethgrinder and Unbeliever at Pinkpop 1996)
So, if Andy fucks up a song you don’t like him? ;)
He was new to the band, chucked into the deep end. He’s a good drummer, some people appreciate him, others don’t. But to me, he’s an excellent drummer.
@ Squall: ;)
Colinx
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 09:35
#38
Charlie wrote:
Lars fucks up EVERY song at EVERY gig but people stil think he’s good :D
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 11:31
#39
Divers (Simon) wrote:
do they?…i thought he was now regarded as the ringo star of the metal world, and generally a twat!:)
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 12:15
#40
Charlie wrote:
Some people still think hes awesome :D
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 12:44
#41
RobbyVDH wrote:
gapu wrote:
that’s ridiculous!
you can’t say you dislike him because he fucked up 2 songs at that concert!
and if you remember: everyone was judging neil when i joined therapy?. a lot of t? concerts where pretty shite because neil was not yet ready to play along to therapy’s songs… i’d say it was similiar with graham in 1996. he was new to the group as well and had probably some difficulties to play along to teethgrinder…
If you think he’s great: fair enough. I don’t like him as a drummer, not only because he started bad with the band.
Have no clue where you get it that “a lot of T? shows with Neil” sucked, never seen him play a bad show actually, not even in the beginning when he joined the band.
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 14:07
#42
Theng wrote:
Brann Fucking Dailor, how come he wasn’t mentioned yet. This man seems to have four arms. Or is mastodon suddenly too hip for this forum? Let me know then.
Keith Moon the loon, the first stand out hardrock drummer ever a whacky genius behind the kit
Sami Kuoppamäki. Y’all do yourselves a favour and listen to Kingston Wall’s live album. Sami destroys, so much feeling so much power so fucking metronome tight!
Pete sandoval he invented the blastbeat and is probably the best death metal drummer
Hellhammer listen to de mysteriis dom sathanas even the drumming is eerie and threatening
Sooper Cooper of course, not just because I’m a T? fan, he is really very good and I would like to hear stuff from his former band(s) is this still out there?
Dirk verbueren Belgium’s own Dave Lombardo. Drums for pretty much every modern (death) metalband in europe I think
Brant Bjork. Maybe his drumming is not spectacular per se but he is such a great allround musician, I had to mention him. But mind you, he IS a good drummer.
Dale Crover
Mario Duplantier (Gojira)
Trym
Bill bruford
The Isor drummer
Mitch Mitchell
I don’t listen to bands with bad drummers only good or average ones
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 14:26
#43
gapu wrote:
RobbyVDH wrote:
If you think he’s great: fair enough. I don’t like him as a drummer, not only because he started bad with the band.
Have no clue where you get it that “a lot of T? shows with Neil” sucked, never seen him play a bad show actually, not even in the beginning when he joined the band.
i havent seen it, but i remember there were a few threads where people doubted that neil is good enough for playing with t?.. and now he is everybody’s darling! i just thought it might be similar with graham.
graham isnt a bad drummer, for sure.. he is more than just average and everyone who doubt it.. please listen carefully to sp-yf or better… try to play along to it and then we’ll talk again. his playing (especially) on that record isnt as simple as you might think…
but i think the fans mostly prefer neil’s surreal drumming and so most people say that graham is weaker.. anyway, i am not going to discuss that further.. i don’t really care who you people prefer… i just can say that i learned much of therapy?’s drummers
free speech for everybody!
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 18:21
#44
Spaceball 1 wrote:
Divers wrote:
do they?…i thought he was now regarded as the ringo star of the metal world, and generally a twat!:)
What the hell is wrong with Ringo? :D
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 19:20
#45
Divers (Simon) wrote:
I do feel sorry for ringo… he did what was needed in the beatles..i think he just got bored and couldn’t be arsed to come up with any thing more complicated. He was probably the most rock n roll one out of them all..as he was off his face for the whole time and didn’t give a fuck, and doesn’t hide the fact now. His interviews are funny as they seem to always be..”too be honest i was really stoned at the time so don’t really remember..ask paul”:)
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 20:08
#46
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Didn’t someone once ask John Lennon if he thought Ringo was the best drummer in the world, and he replied ‘I don’t think he’s the best drummer in the Beatles’? :D
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 20:11
#47
Divers (Simon) wrote:
Yes that’s true… paul played drums on some of the stuff around the white album period…so i guess he was talking about him.
Posted on Sun, 10 December 2006 at 20:12
#48
Spaceball 1 wrote:
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 08:05
#49
buffalo-boy wrote:
And Ringo actually sometimes aswell - quite difficult harmonies.
And for the record i think Graham was a definate weak area for t? at the time, very plodding and average. Songs like Hate, Kill Destroy and Big Cave In sound so dull when they could have been bigger. Neil on the other hand fits the band wayyyyy better, more like fyfe’s style and sound but unique to himself still. He is the man.
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 08:48
#50
soul doubt (an) wrote:
RobbyVDH wrote:
If you think he’s great: fair enough. I don’t like him as a drummer, not only because he started bad with the band.
Have no clue where you get it that “a lot of T? shows with Neil” sucked, never seen him play a bad show actually, not even in the beginning when he joined the band.
I think this is what Gapu is referring to.
RobbyVDH wrote:
Dislike:
Graham Hopkins (sorry I’ll never forgive him for fucking
up both Teethgrinder and Unbeliever at Pinkpop 1996)
Lars Ulrich after 1988
Matt Sorum
Fair enough that you don’t like him as a drummer, but it would be pretty ignorant to only see Graham’s fuck-ups, as Fyfe and Neil had their share as well
That’s part of live shows
they’re not Tool (and I’m happy for that, Tool is amazing, but not to see live 10 times in a row, they’re way too perfect for that)!
Also Andy does fuck up a lot of his guitarsolo’s sings out of key from time to time and Michael sometimes plays sloppy. If you can’t forgive Graham for his mistakes, I don’t see what you like about Therapy? they all make mistakes
Graham isn’t in my like-list, since I think he’s just a regular drummer, I don’t think he’s bad, so he will definitely not end up in my dislike-list either.
Theng wrote:
Sooper Cooper of course, not just because I’m a T? fan, he is really very good and I would like to hear stuff from his former band(s) is this still out there?
Check out The Beyond, especially their first release, Crawl is amazing, and without a doubt you’ll recognise Neil’s amazing drumstyle. :)
my likes (in no particular order)
Fyfe Ewing
Neil Cooper
Jo Reynders (Cabron)
Eric Sandin
Mikkey Dee
Tommy Ramone
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 09:05
#51
Spaceball 1 wrote:
buffalo-boy wrote:
And for the record i think Graham was a definate weak area for t? at the time, very plodding and average. Songs like Hate, Kill Destroy and Big Cave In sound so dull when they could have been bigger. Neil on the other hand fits the band wayyyyy better, more like fyfe’s style and sound but unique to himself still. He is the man.
Amen brother! :)
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 09:11
#52
Divers (Simon) wrote:
Spaceball 1 wrote:
I do actually like Ringo alot and he’s not as bad as drummer as i’m making out, the early stuff was cool and he could do more complicated stuff if he wanted to i just guess there wasn’t any need for it. His Autiobiography is a really good read… and he is infamous for being one of the very few people who could out drink Keith Moon.
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 09:49
#53
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Divers wrote:
Yes that’s true… paul played drums on some of the stuff around the white album period…so i guess he was talking about him.
:D I’m so glad it’s true.
I’m not a big Beatles fan, so don’t exactly listen to them all the time, but I think Ringo did what was needed to suit the music?
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 11:23
#54
Dennis wrote:
Presumably Ringo was too pissed and/or stoned to notice he was being slagged off mercilessly - or else he thought it was a joke.
I’m not sure whether it WAS a joke, myself
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 14:39
#55
Charlie wrote:
Tool arent THAT perfcet live. Better than most, for SURE, but i noticed Adam and Maynard mess up when i saw them last - adam missed a string playing the intro to lateralus, thus missing out a couple of notes and maynard forgot the words to aenima ! :D Also, Danny broke his snare during stinkfist and had to play the whole of swamp song whithout it !!
Theyre only human :) - No really !
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 15:51
#56
gapu wrote:
soul doubt wrote:
I think this is what Gapu is referring to.
exactly!
and all in all, i have to say i am in agreement with you. i not his greatest fan i’d say.. i really love sp-yf and some other stuff… but to me neil seems to get more and more important to me!
i might have said something different in the past… (actually not really..)
but thats what i feel now… anyway, it changes from time to time
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 17:26
#57
RobbyVDH wrote:
soul doubt wrote:
Fair enough that you don’t like him as a drummer, but it would be pretty ignorant to only see Graham’s fuck-ups, as Fyfe and Neil had their share as well
Also Andy does fuck up a lot of his guitarsolo’s sings out of key from time to time and Michael sometimes plays sloppy. If you can’t forgive Graham for his mistakes, I don’t see what you like about Therapy? they all make mistakes
Woman please :eek:
I don’t like his drumming. Not only because he fucked up those songs.
Posted on Mon, 11 December 2006 at 18:56
#58
buffalo-boy wrote:
Teethgrinder: how’s that yawn emoticon coming on!? I could do with one here!
Posted on Tue, 12 December 2006 at 08:33
#59
soul doubt (an) wrote:
RobbyVDH wrote:
Woman please :eek:
I don’t like his drumming. Not only because he fucked up those songs.
I’ve read that, and I mentioned that if you read well!
But you said you couldn’t forgive him for those mistakes, or does your latest post on the messageboards undo your previous one :rolleyes:
Posted on Tue, 12 December 2006 at 08:34
#60
Theng wrote:
if we’re gonna keep yacking about Fyfe, Graham and Neil then this thread should be moved to another part of this forum.
I was (forced to) listening to Virgin Suicides OST earlier this week and it struck me that the fast song(s) had pretty cool drumming, very frantic and driving. But I have no idea who that sticksman is.
I think an average drummer makes an average band worse but a good drummer makes an average band better and a good band can’t be fantastic without a fantastic drummer. Drummers are essential to rock music. A band without drummer is like pizza without cheese.
Posted on Tue, 12 December 2006 at 13:39
