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maybe there’s no therapy for me after all?

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Started by IvanJ

Let me introduce myself… I was their ultra-big fan during my teenage period in the mid ’90s.

It all started with Opal Mantra that I saw on 120 minutes on MTV… ah, good old days. Then I’ve heard Screamager, Teethgrinder, etc, etc… I fell in love.

Therapy? continued to evolve… I was very pleased with Troublegum, but when Infernal love came out, I was thrilled. Yes, thrilled! I loved that album very much and I still do.
Then Semi-detached came out… I was very pleased as well… still I think that Safe and Straight life are one of their best ever songs. The album has plenty of great songs.

BUT, then came Suicide pact… I was so happy… but when I actually heard it I hated that album so much that I literally threw it in a garbage.
Andy had some annoying mumbling vocals, everything seemed pointless.
I lost interest in them and haven’t listened to any new T? album since then. No, not a single one.

However, today I downloaded three songs:
Rain hits concrete, fear of god and one oldersong - Long distance.

I can’t say that I missed something for all these years… Long distance sounds… bllaah… boring, but rain hits concrete has a potential… though I cannot say that for fear of god.

How exactly is 1 cure fits all compared to albums from nurse to semi-detached?
Can it be compared at all?

So far, it seems to me that therapy lost themselves after semi-detached or just before that. What I always liked in their music was how they connected metal/rock with the pop element - killer chorus & vocals and melodic riffs. I never liked their early and raw period when they sounded like a demo group.

But maybe I’m wrong?

Thanks.

Posted on Fri, 15 December 2006 at 22:20

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caffeinebomb (Caffeine Bomb) wrote:

If you like the uber-commercial, slurping-on-the-cheesy-corporate-penis style of, say, semi detatched for instance, then the only thing recently that you will like is One Cure Fits All - it is universally opined to be one of Therapy?’s most commercially oriented albums.

It is very very good. and I recommend that you buy a copy.

High Anxiety might be worth a look too.

Never Apoologise, Never Explain is a bit noisy in places, but is a cracking album, and Shameless is the follow up to Suicide Pact, which is more of a bog standard hard rock record.

Personaly, I think SPYF is a great album, really dark and totally different to anything thy produced before or since, and I also love OCFA and NANE, althogh I am less of a fan of Shameless and High Anxiety.

Download Our White Noise, Walk Through Darkness and Sprung, then buy One Cure Fits All.

And Welcome the the WoM by the way

Posted on Fri, 15 December 2006 at 22:48

#2

Headtransplanter wrote:

i’d have to disagree slightly with caffeine bomb -
if you like troublegum, then you’l definetly love high anxiety - in any case you can (or could recently anyway) buy it from play.com for £3.00 including delivery! so drop whatever it is you’re doing and go buy it! now!
you will probably like OCFA, it does take some time to grow on you though. i’d advise you to listen to sprung on therapy?’s myspace, or in the discography section of this site before you splash the cash on that

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 08:47

#3

McBain wrote:

My humble opinion:

There are as many different opinions on Therapy?’s albums as there are members on this forum.

Never Apologize was celebrated by many as maybe their best album ever; On the other hand, e.g. a guy called Marko Jii even closed his Therapy? fan-website because T?’s new stuff doesn’t appeal to him at all.

I’m a big Troublegum - fan, too. Love that record. Best thing they’ve ever done imho. But they’ve never done anything like troublegum after that. Would I want them to do another troublegum? Hell No! It wouldn’t be Therapy? if they did the same thing twice. (I needn’t tell you - you know the follow-ups to Troublegum).

Suicide Pact is a weird, experimental album.

Shameless is full of straight riffs and rhythms. Sort of Punk Rock with not so much melody.

High Anxiety has some sort of Pop/Punk-ish songs. Very melodic, maybe too pop.

NANE then, is raw and unpolished. Not exactly heavy, just wild. Totally different from HA.

Then, OCFA has a lot of riffs an melodies. But not like the stuff on Troublegum or HA, it’s just OCFA.

I don’t think therapy? have lost themselves. They’ve changed every time they put out a record. It depends on one’s personal taste if you like their stuff or not.

There’s always a reason to give the latest T? record a try. Even if you didn’t like the last one - you can be shure the new one’ is different … again. :D

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 09:13

#4

Squall wrote:

Quote (author unknown):

Download Our White Noise, Walk Through Darkness and Sprung, then buy One Cure Fits All.

Or just buy One Cure Fits All :p

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 11:13

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andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

I’d say buy em all, and give em a few listens as I find with T? albums you get more rewarded once they’ve grown on you, so to speak.

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 12:34

#6

Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:

i think u went a bit hasty with the throw away in the bin bit, suicidepact may be the worst album but it is still very good. not every cd gets u by the 1st listen, u gotta let it grow on you then u might like it afterwards.

shameless is more polished and more straight forward than its predecessor, heavy rock n roll with a bit of punk. high anxiety ull like, cuz like headtransplanter said if u like troublegum ull love HA, its pop/metal/punk

nane is my second fav, its heavy, more complex, raw, and just brilliant.

OCFA is also a very good album, but the production aint up to much, its catchy and heavy, some at the same time, deluded son and walk thru darkness are essential pop/metal tunes.

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 14:34

#7

fatboy wrote:

Ivan, it took me a few listens to get into Therapy?, but by the time their Short Sharp Shock ep came out I was getting anything with their name on it. Most of it I fell in love with whilst the rest took me a little longer to get into.

Suicide Pact is not an easy album on first listen, whilst Shameless shows the band something that they’re not. On NANE it shows the band pulling themselves back together again. I’d start on NANE before going on to the others, but that’s just my opinion.

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 14:41

#8

EclipseDeLarge wrote:

I’m a sucker for Therapy?, whenever I have the money spare I *have* to buy an album.

One Cure Fits All didnt do too much for me at first but it’s growing on me at least a little now.

And High Anxiety was the first T? album I bought and I was dissapointed since I’d heard a few songs from Troublegum.. but then Troublegum came and I loved it and after I’d listened to it to death I went back to High Anxiety and realised I liked that a lot too.

Just trying to get hold of Suicide Pact; You First. I’m trying to get hold of all the albums :P

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 15:34

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

McBain wrote:

Never Apologize was celebrated by many as maybe their best album ever; On the other hand, e.g. a guy called Marko Jii even closed his Therapy? fan-website because T?’s new stuff doesn’t appeal to him at all.

That was later on, and that wasn’t really the reason… :rolleyes:

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 17:17

#10

McBain wrote:

@soul doubt

Uhm, yeah ou’re right. I read his closing note a while ago and obviously misremembered large parts of it. Sorry! Supid Me…

However I see the point I was trying to make confirmed by all the aother answers to this thread - T?s albums are so different to each other that you just have to give them a spin. Expectation are monot of much use. ;)

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 19:18

#11

Squall wrote:

Graeme55? wrote:

i think u went a bit hasty with the throw away in the bin bit, suicidepact may be the worst album but it is still very good. not every cd gets u by the 1st listen, u gotta let it grow on you then u might like it afterwards.

shameless is more polished and more straight forward than its predecessor, heavy rock n roll with a bit of punk. high anxiety ull like, cuz like headtransplanter said if u like troublegum ull love HA, its pop/metal/punk

nane is my second fav, its heavy, more complex, raw, and just brilliant.

OCFA is also a very good album, but the production aint up to much, its catchy and heavy, some at the same time, deluded son and walk thru darkness are essential pop/metal tunes.

SPYF is in my top 3 :)

Posted on Sat, 16 December 2006 at 23:43

#12

soul doubt (an) wrote:

@ Mcbain
No offence, everyone’s memory is playing tricks on them from time to time ;) Just wanted to react as when I read you comment, I thought Marko came out as a wanker. I think though that’s not the way you wanted to sound. As far as I know Marko he’s a nice guy, he’s one of those WoMbles I’ve always wanted to meet. It’s just that the fire is gone for him…

@IvanJ
The fact that you’re here, makes me think that you didn’t have enough of T? yet, that you want there to be more for you. Like everyone on here said, Therapy? sounds different on every release, and everyone has another opinion on here, so just check out (pieces of) every release after SD, if you’re still open to it, I’m sure you’ll find at least something else you like.
Of what you said, I think maybe High Anxiety might be the record for you… very clean production and there’s plenty of pop/metal and punk elements in that records :)

Posted on Sun, 17 December 2006 at 12:35

#13

buffalo-boy wrote:

Here is the unbiased truth:

SP:YF is intentionally fucked up. If you don’t like it don’t get Shameless - its more of the same, only worse. (tHo SPYF grew on me in the end!)

High Anxiety is perfect punk/pop and recommended.

NANE is raw metal but this time in a good way :) (sounds kinda demo-ish though…)

And OCFA - well if you don’t think Rain Hits Concrete is all that good, don’t bother with the rest of the album, you aren’t missing alot.

Posted on Mon, 18 December 2006 at 09:09

#14

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

I agree with what An (soul doubt) said.

Posted on Mon, 18 December 2006 at 14:12

#15

IvanJ wrote:

Thanks guys for the recommendations and welcome. :)

I’ll try High anxiety, though I’d like to check One cure fits all too… that’s their latest release after all…

And yeah, I miss therapy.
From Nurse to Semi-Detached I loved it all! I saw a progression, yet after hearing Suicide pact, I totally lost interest.

I miss the songs like Tightrope Walker - great tension, great riffs and a killer chorus.
Andy’s voice on Unbeliever is simply unbelievable. I don’t care if they filtered his voice or something, but he sounds in that song amazing.
Comparing Unbeliever and… I don’t know, Long Distance… is blaaaaah… two worlds, quality wise.
Turn is another alternative masterpiece, as is Bad Mother… etc, etc, etc.

So Therapy? for me were the masters of catchy alternative hard rock songs with great, provocative lyrics, simple but powerful riffs and choruses & melody you could sing all day long.

From Nurse to Semi-detached, every album was different, but the songs retained the same Therapy? mark that I loved so much.
So no, I don’t want them to repeat themselves, but I think they’ve gone way back to their roots for my liking.

But I WILL dl high anxiety & one cure fits all and hopefully buy both of these albums. Yeah, I miss those guys…

Posted on Mon, 18 December 2006 at 23:42

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Karl wrote:

[quote=buffalo-boy]Here is the unbiased truth:

SP:YF is intentionally fucked up. If you don’t like it don’t get Shameless - its more of the same, only worse. (tHo SPYF grew on me in the end!)

I don’t think these sound the same at all, but people do hear different things. For me, out of all the albums, it makes for one hell of a back catalogue in which to choose songs for a tour from.

Posted on Tue, 19 December 2006 at 08:48

#17

McBain wrote:

soul doubt wrote:

@ Mcbain
No offence, everyone’s memory is playing tricks on them from time to time ;) Just wanted to react as when I read you comment, I thought Marko came out as a wanker. I think though that’s not the way you wanted to sound. As far as I know Marko he’s a nice guy, he’s one of those WoMbles I’ve always wanted to meet. It’s just that the fire is gone for him…

I did by no means intend to offend Marko or say anything bad about him. I shouldn’t have used his closing his site in my post in the first place … sorry again … let’s just move on ;)

Posted on Tue, 19 December 2006 at 08:48

#18

soul doubt (an) wrote:

no problem at all, it’s nearly Christmas after all ;)

Posted on Tue, 19 December 2006 at 09:11

#19

therapy_gr wrote:

i think IVAN J has right about the albums therapy relased after suicide pact.i didnt like suicide pact too.i was disappointed,they only song i liked from that was little tongues first.the changed their sound alot when that album came out.and i didnt like his vocals at all at that album.and the shamelless album was disappointing as well.

i think that one cure fits all its their come back album.songs like sprung and white noise are very good,and they remind you of their 90s area.i think for me their best period was from 94-98!they were cool back then,they had cool songs and cool appearance!i still love them though,i always go and seem them,because they rock live.and andy is a very cool guy.

waiting for the studio dvd…it will rock!!!

Posted on Tue, 19 December 2006 at 14:42

#20

buffalo-boy wrote:

i think that one cure fits all its their come back album.songs like sprung and white noise are very good,and they remind you of their 90s area.i think for me their best period was from 94-98!they were cool back then,they had cool songs and cool appearance!i still love them though,i always go and seem them,because they rock live.and andy is a very cool guy.

Sad but true. I really like SP:YF now tho apart from a few songs sound like a young garage band that haven’t quite found their sound IMO. Sister could have done with a big production, i can’t believe they couldn’t see that, it could have been monster! Never mind - they learned their lesson for High Anxiety which was great! :)

Posted on Thu, 21 December 2006 at 08:35

#21

IvanJ wrote:

Wow! I’ve heard “If it kills me” and was totally blown away!! This song reminded me why I love(d) Therapy? so much!

Then, My voodoo doll is great too and other High Anxiety stuff… but sadly, the album is unavailable in the stores in my city. :(

I was also blown away with Gimme back my brain. Great song. It’s from Shameless. What’s your opinion about that album? If all songs are like the first song, then wow!

And on sunday I’ll receive One cure fits all from Italy. How ironic, my first Therapy? albums were bought in Italy. :)

So, I guess I’m back with Therapy! (this time with ! instead of ? ).

Posted on Fri, 22 December 2006 at 21:18

#22

soul doubt (an) wrote:

Welcome back to T?, glad you liked some more of the stuff! :)
Have you asked your local recordstore if they can still order High Anxiety? Shouldn’t be a problem I think.

Posted on Sat, 23 December 2006 at 10:38

#23

Hatham wrote:

I’ve never really got why Shameless is seen as one of Therapy?’s weaker albums. Great tunes and lots of energy = FAWN-TASH-TIC album!!

On another note, am i the only one who seems to be getting a bit bored of Coopers drumming style? Every song seems to have the same kind of beat to it, and whilst thats not always bad and his drumming is technically superb, it does wear thin after a while. Hmm, probably just me.

Posted on Sat, 23 December 2006 at 12:51

#24

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Shameless is a blast - welcome in the new year with it ;)

Posted on Sat, 23 December 2006 at 14:52

#25

Joel (Joel Wreford) wrote:

Come on, Shameless is just not up to scratch. Gimme Back My Brain is pretty good, but the rest is lacklustre, and at least 3 of Therapy?’s worst tracks are on that album. No passion.

NANE and Suicide Pact are where the best stuff is at!

Posted on Sun, 24 December 2006 at 15:11

#26

IvanJ wrote:

Well, I’ve heard couple of songs from Shameless and they are good, at least for my ears. Yes, the songs have that american feel, like Nirvana’s Bleach, but that’s the point. :)

Posted on Mon, 25 December 2006 at 16:55

#27

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

IVAN it was produced by JAck endino who produced bleach lmao, ive never been able to see a similarity between em, but i guess to some people the production style of Endino is noticable.

Posted on Tue, 26 December 2006 at 12:21

#28

IvanJ wrote:

Yes, Endino’s influence is noticeable for me. :)

I just bought the Shameless album… ‘t was sittin’ in the music shop for years… since 2001. It was the last one. :)

And wow! I don’t get it why fans rated it as a weaker album. No way!

The only thing I don’t like is Andy’s “Innocent X” crap vocals in songs like I’m the money (although that song kicks ass!) or body bag girl.
Body bag girl is the weakest song on album… just because of that crappy vocals… it was too much.

But the rest is just great, awesome riffs, pure energy and I like it. :)

Posted on Sun, 31 December 2006 at 04:49

#29

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

yea cause i mean man, there are worst bands out there with worst songs then T?’s weakest ever tracks.

Posted on Sun, 31 December 2006 at 13:39

#30

johnny_knoxville wrote:

I would be of the view that Shameless is the weakest of their albums…I don’t think they have used much of the material in recent shows (am I mistaken?)

One Cure is a bit of a let down for me aswell, apart from Sprung and Rain hits Concrete which are pure Therapy? anthems at their best!

But at least Therapy? dare to try different sounds, and can never be accused of releasing carbon copy albums like the Red Hot Shitty Peppers!

Heres my top 5 Therapy? albums

Troublegum (classic Therapy? at their best)
Never Apologise (stomping raw angry rock)
Infernal Love (amazingly crafted songs, great lyrics)
High Anxiety (high tempo pop/rock)
Suicide Pact (Dark, edgy, gritty, original, in your face)

Posted on Mon, 1 January 2007 at 15:28

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