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Started by lasereyes (peter vician) in General Therapy? Topics

For me
album with best production is infernal love

and 3 songs with best production are:

a moment of clarity
disgracelands(new recording)
auto surgery

and for you???

Posted on Thu, 8 March 2007 at 17:10

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#1

Alan wrote:

Hmm, best produced album would probably be either Troublegum or Semi-Detached for that full, clean sound. Most expensive production job would probably be Infernal Love, though it sounds a little too produced and muddy, to my ears!

I wouldn’t really agree about the Disgracelands re-recording; it sounds like a live one-take in the studio. None of those 1998 re-recordings sound much produced at all.

Posted on Thu, 8 March 2007 at 17:34

#2

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

Title: I dont think so.

I really think that disgracelands is done wery good.

Infernal love is not my favorite album, but semy dedatched if you ask me, has to much noise and high pitch witch makes your ears hearts when you are using headphones.

I like steril and clean suond. When i am recording i dont use all chanels i can. Make it simple and make it clean, or all that noise can ruin good song like it is case with my favorite-SAFE.

Posted on Thu, 8 March 2007 at 18:46

#3

KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:

I would go with Troublegum as I still think it holds its own even today.

Infernal Love was probably the most expensive and was great production. Semi Detached was somewhat overproduced I think.

Posted on Thu, 8 March 2007 at 20:14

#4

FNYANKEZ wrote:

Infernal Love or Troublegum are the best produced.

Have to say I lean towards Troublegum though because it has that extra kick without too much going on. Each instrument came through crystal clear with some seperation, and you got enough bass thump from it. But that could also be because the songs were more straight forward.

NANE was also very well produced. I wasn’t always crazy about the guitar tone (could have used more variety from the uber-fuzz), but that was how Andy was set-up, not a production issue.

Semi-Detached has a little too much “Wall of Sound” quality for me. Sometimes the instruments teneded to bleed together so you couldn’t clearly discern one guitar from the other. It made it harder to figure some of the songs out on guitar :mad: :D But to be fair, the WOS worked for the context of that album.

But I will say Straight Life kicks like mad in the car cranked all the way up!!

Really the only ones I thought suffered from the production were OCFA and Nurse. I won’t include Babyteeth or Pleasure Death because they were early days indie.

Posted on Thu, 8 March 2007 at 22:01

#5

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

Title: high pitch

That is all I can say.
Make confusion, you cant separate one guitar from aonther and bass is gone somwhere. I think it is problem of post production-balance of the chanels.

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 07:19

#6

buffalo-boy wrote:

I think HA is my fave production job. The guitars are monster! Everything sounds really big and crisp.

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 08:36

#7

Divers (Simon) wrote:

Alan wrote:

I wouldn’t really agree about the Disgracelands re-recording; it sounds like a live one-take in the studio. None of those 1998 re-recordings sound much produced at all.

Sorry lazereyes but I would agree with this, the production is very cheap on these tracks.. not that they don’t sound quite good but they are more or less good sounding demos.

Troublegum is the one that has dated the best everything is clear and snappy and wouldn’t be out of place with todays standards. The main grumble I have with HA is the over compression used in the mix, I think Chris Sheldon is great but he did the same thing on the second Biffy album and when everything kicks ini you really hear the sound getting squished. Maybe I only notice it because my ears are more trained to it but it really bugs me on certain tracks.

IL has a more open and atmospheric sound to it’s production, which probably has a lot to do with it being recorded at Real World. They have great live room that you want to be picked up on the recording and is one of my favourite places to record at. But I’m more of a fan of the rawer heavier therapy..which is why I was pleased when I heard NANE. I think the production suits the songs perfectly..drums sound great and the guitar tone doesn’t personally bother me.

SD i think is good, a nice thick production job and drum sound to help show that they have moved on and have a different line up.:).. I also think the drum sound on Babyteeth is just awesome!

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 10:17

#8

Dennis wrote:

I agree with Divers about NANE, which is my favourite sounding album.
Whether that necessarily equates with “best production”, I am not sure*, although I guess it must do to some degree. I just know that I like how it sounds!

I know quite a few people have said Shameless has a poor production - But I think it’s OK. I can see that some people don’t like the songs, but the production isn’t bad..is it?

EDIT:
(*By this, I mean that some people love the sound of SP:YF, but in technical terms I can’t imagine anyone would describe it as a well-produced album)

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 10:22

#9

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

Title: i got a problem

I never hear any song from “n a n e” or “one cure fits all”.

You cant buy it in Belgrade.

So it seems like T? solution is to use studio as in infernal love and make new troublegum or nurse…mmmm????

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 12:28

#10

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

I’m not too bother about ‘production’ values and what not, kinda sounds abit geeky when someone ever brings up this kind of subject with me. But I’d have to say maybe: Infernal Love.

Posted on Fri, 9 March 2007 at 12:56

#11

The one and only Y wrote:

Dennis wrote:

I agree with Divers about NANE, which is my favourite sounding album.
Whether that necessarily equates with “best production”, I am not sure*, although I guess it must do to some degree. I just know that I like how it sounds!

I know quite a few people have said Shameless has a poor production - But I think it’s OK. I can see that some people don’t like the songs, but the production isn’t bad..is it?

EDIT:
(*By this, I mean that some people love the sound of SP:YF, but in technical terms I can’t imagine anyone would describe it as a well-produced album)

I love the sound of SP-YF, just the best for those raw songs… but the best produced album for me is
…
erm
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nane
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semi-detached
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troublegum
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IF
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ah fuck it.

Posted on Sat, 10 March 2007 at 10:31

#12

viking_pooh wrote:

if you ask me they’re all fantastically produced

particular faves are NANE, it just sounds like ur standing in their practice room. and and certain songs may seem a bit polished but it works with the poppy or more epic nature ofsome of the Semi-detached stuff, where as SPYF is just areally dark album and the procution just work really well, specially on He’s not that kind of Girl, its just got that seedy old jazz vibe mixed wiht dirty rock :)

infact, the only thing that really stands out that i dont like procution wise is the snare on “Walk Through Darkness” just because the noise gat is set too tight soin the intro u hear it cut out too soon not enough of the natural ring

Posted on Sat, 10 March 2007 at 12:21

#13

fatboy wrote:

After all these years, the production on Troublegum holds up well. For now, NANE sounds great, but whether the years will be kind to it is another thing.

Posted on Sat, 10 March 2007 at 13:14

#14

gapu wrote:

well think back how great jimi hendrix albums do sound today and they are from the late 60’s!

Posted on Sat, 10 March 2007 at 14:00

#15

Fuzzeh (Jack) wrote:

I’m not even a drummer, but absolutely LOVE therapy?’s drum sounds, for example on epilepsy and loose on infernal love are decent.

Then you have a really really good drum sound like on nowhere and “stop it your killing me” on troublegum…

Then the drums are pure perfection on babyteeth.

I’m glad someone else picked up on this in the thread :D

Posted on Sat, 10 March 2007 at 21:34

#16

not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

OCFA i think is really badly produced. it has lot’s of great songs on it but they just don’t sound right.

in terms of best production it has to be troublegum. it sounds very clean all the time. that’s not to say it’s my favourite album (that varies between infernal love, SPYF or NANE).

Posted on Sun, 11 March 2007 at 02:03

#17

Charlie wrote:

Dennis wrote:

I agree with Divers about NANE, which is my favourite sounding album.
Whether that necessarily equates with “best production”, I am not sure*, although I guess it must do to some degree. I just know that I like how it sounds!

I know quite a few people have said Shameless has a poor production - But I think it’s OK. I can see that some people don’t like the songs, but the production isn’t bad..is it?

EDIT:
(*By this, I mean that some people love the sound of SP:YF, but in technical terms I can’t imagine anyone would describe it as a well-produced album)

It depends if it fulfills what the band were after.

I LOVE the production on SPYF.

Posted on Sun, 11 March 2007 at 20:53

#18

Dennis wrote:

Exactly ,Squall, that’s what I am saying - even a technically “bad” production can sound kick ass.
After all, we wouldn’t have distorted guitars at all ( and hence hardly any of the music we know and love) if it hadn’t been for people like Clapton forcing engineers to saturate the guitar and record it “wrong”.

Sometimes less is more.

But don’t tell my wife that now i have put loads of weight on. Sometimes MORE is more, dudes.

Posted on Mon, 12 March 2007 at 11:28

#19

Charlie wrote:

ALSO

Why do people think a polished production is automatically super-expensive ?

You would only be paying the engineer for spending more time on it :p

PLUS

Super polished production does not always equal good album.

See : Texas and Any Nu - Metal album.

Posted on Mon, 12 March 2007 at 19:32

#20

not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:

ah, but, most of those albums that are intentionally made to sound a bit rough (i.e. suicide pact) more often that not are simply due to a LACK of production. ergo, the production is neither good nor bad, just absent. and sometimes it works and sounds ace. and sometimes it doesn’t (KYE, manics).

Posted on Mon, 12 March 2007 at 21:18

#21

Charlie wrote:

I know that HEAD, who produced SP-YF also produced Pj Harvey’s last album and that has similar production values.

Posted on Mon, 12 March 2007 at 21:36

#22

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

Title: If i am Michal…

Proably I would be mad.
Anybody noticed that on almoust every track bass is to weak?
Drum is allways good produced, guitar (as I sad when i started these thread) sometimes make noise and confusion, but bass has some level of distrosion , so bass sounds more like rythm guitar than like ordinary bass.
I think that that is a problem, because Mikehell play bass wery good it it is shame that his bass line is hardly to hear.

Best bass line are(for me)
dancin with manson
sister
potato junkie

Something to add?

Posted on Tue, 13 March 2007 at 15:36

#23

Shra-Mee wrote:

I’d go for SP-YF, as I love that raw production.
Although got a big “problem” with OCFA, since the clean production sounds too 80ies for me, especially Andy’s voice…

Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 10:37

#24

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

80s are popular now.
Andy could make song feat Kim Wilde?
:D

Posted on Thu, 29 March 2007 at 13:46

#25

Shra-Mee wrote:

Hehe, yeah they could do “Chequered Love” as a duet ;)

Posted on Thu, 29 March 2007 at 16:32

#26

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

Andy would be like porn king.
No, seriusly Andy has gratful voice.
Any music direction he choose he could sing it wery,wery good.

Posted on Thu, 29 March 2007 at 17:33

#27

Shra-Mee wrote:

Well, you might be right, but I prefer him as a rock’n’roll “booze-hound” poet… ;)

Posted on Fri, 30 March 2007 at 09:53

#28

lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:

They could be like Sony And Sher.
Imagine that Andy an Kim

Posted on Fri, 30 March 2007 at 13:35

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