#31
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Agreed.
I remember an article in a guitar magazine from back when the black album came out. James was talking about how quiet the bass ahd been in previous albums and said something to the effect that when they first played the ‘new’ album to their mates, they were asking ‘what’s that weird rumbling sort of sound underneath the guitars?’ ‘Dude, that’s the bass!’ :D
Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 11:42
#32
Dennis wrote:
Why do I feel like the next Metallica album will either be their best since the Black Album or their worst ever effort?
Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 13:52
#33
buffalo-boy wrote:
i think whatever happens it will be their best album since the black album. It’s not difficult to beat load, reload or st anger is it?? :D
Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 14:42
#34
Charlie wrote:
Dennis wrote:
I think a lot of bands, metal bands in particular, fall into that trap. For example, anyone know if Tom Araya is a good bassist? No idea meself, can’t hear a note of what he plays!
Bass can do so much more than just root notes. OK not everyone is an Ozzy fan, but a good example is No More Tears - great bass intro, something different from the run of the mill plodding of some bassists (Def Leppard hang your heads in shame. Again.)
What aboout ” Perry Mason ” ? wasn’t that the man himself, Robert Trujillo ?
Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 15:36
#35
Taunty Dan wrote:
Squall wrote:
Why I think the new album will be good.
1.Rick Rubin producing.
2.They’ve been writing it since summer 2003 - not ” go in the studio - press record and start playing ”
3.They’re picking the best ideas out of over 50 cd’s worth of riffs and jams and making songs out of them.
4.They’re spending the first few days of recording getting each instrument to sounds as good as possible - rather than spend 5 minutes placing mikes wherever.
5.They realise St Anger was a mistake and have said themselves that they ” want to make the new album as good as it can be,” and not rush it.
It may still suck, but I’m feeling positive.
Why i think the new album will be bad:
1. Rick Rubin is producing it.
2. They’ve been writing it for 4 years.
3. They’ve made one good song since the black album, SIXTEEN YEARS AGO PEOPLE!
4. They’re allowed Kirk to talk about it.
Posted on Tue, 20 March 2007 at 18:09
#36
Dennis wrote:
Quote (author unknown):
Taunty Dan said: Why i think the new album will be bad:
1. Rick Rubin is producing it.
Hmm. I think you could have a point there. Rubin suddenly seems to be the producer of the moment, again for some inexplicable reason, other than he produced some classic albums about 400 years ago.
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2. They’ve been writing it for 4 years.
They overthink things, don’t they? “oo no, can’t use that riff, it sounds too much like Metallica” COURSE IT FUCKIN DOES CRETINS!
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3. They’ve made one good song since the black album, SIXTEEN YEARS AGO PEOPLE!
By my reckoning it is at least three, but I get your point.
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4. They’re allowed Kirk to talk about it.
Holy shit, things REALLY are bad on Planet Metallica, aren’t they?!
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 10:51
#37
buffalo-boy wrote:
They have put the release date back again too, it may even be next year! Fuck sake!
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 11:09
#38
Dennis wrote:
Squall wrote:
What aboout ” Perry Mason ” ? wasn’t that the man himself, Robert Trujillo ?
It is actually Geezer Butler who plays bass on that album, would you Adam and Eve it?
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 11:51
#39
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
buffalo-boy wrote:
They have put the release date back again too, it may even be next year! Fuck sake!
We could have another Chinese Democracy in the making…
Another 25 “escape from the Studio”, “the studio sucks” or “30 year anniversary Black album” tours to come…
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 12:31
#40
Charlie wrote:
Lars said this year. It probably WILL be next year, but he said they will try their best to get it out his year, but if not - Very Early next year at the latest.
But we’ll see.
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 13:07
#41
zipless wrote:
KJC Dublin wrote:
At the end of the day, you can’t have all musicians in a band playing virtuoso at the same time, coz it sounds like a mess.
Of course you can. But you have to be very very good and some just aren’t!
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 16:46
#42
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
well,
not many are and those who usually try it are Jazz musicians.
Posted on Wed, 21 March 2007 at 16:48
#43
buffalo-boy wrote:
i’ve tried to get into jazz music , or at the very least, appreciate it but i can’t. It just sounds like bollocks to me. The only people who enjoy it are the people playing it.
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 08:27
#44
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
I agree - if you were to round up the most talented musicians in the world an lump them into one band, the end result would be shite in my opinion (there have even been attempts so I believe).
A band can usually only take 1 or 2 super talents and the rest of the band have to keep it together.
Besides Rob, there aren’t really any supertalents in Metallica at the moment…
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 09:14
#45
deadsetgav wrote:
If Lars practiced as much as he talked crap… he’d be the greatest drummer in the world.
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 10:33
#46
Divers (Simon) wrote:
Squall wrote:
Metallica playing Wembley Stadium.
£40
Tickets go on sale this Wednesday :(
Thats me out then !!
To be honest, at this point in time I have no intention of ever seeing them live again. It’s not that I don’t like them, it’s just I’ve seen them too many times and after download apart from them playing all of MOP the rest of the set was just same old, same old and didn’t excite me. I also think that apart from the shit songs from the nineties period i have heard all their tracks in a live setting now.
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 20:29
#47
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
That’s just it - no new material even (maybe a good thing, who knows?)
They are becoming more and more like kiss, living off their legacy and doing it all for the $
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 20:46
#48
Divers (Simon) wrote:
Please don’t mention Kiss, it brings back bad memories of… well Kiss actually!
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 21:09
#49
CS (Colin S) wrote:
deadsetgav wrote:
If Lars practiced as much as he talked crap… he’d be the greatest drummer in the world.
:D
Award that man!! :D
Squall wrote:
Lars :
” Um, well, you know ,we write what we write. Um and Um, I think that um, MAYBE, you know, um, certain things are present. I’m not saying thay arent present…”
Are you SURE about that Buffalo Boy ? :D
:D
And that man!! :D
Colinx
Posted on Thu, 22 March 2007 at 21:28
#50
FNYANKEZ wrote:
Will they let Robert really play like he did with Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves? He’s actually quite good.
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 00:09
#51
deadsetgav wrote:
Rob = Great technical ability + (stupid fucking frog walk * gurning)
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 08:35
#52
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
He will be the puppet (that you can hardly hear on the record, slap that bass as hard as he may) and they (Lar$ and Jame$) will be the masters of the puppets (there is also Kirk, remember?) :D
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 09:25
#53
buffalo-boy wrote:
I’m hoping the bass will finally get a decent hearing this time round, it hasn’t been present since Cliff (R.I.P).
Know what you mean about the live tunes. Its always the same set:
Ecstasy of Gold
Master
Wherever I may roam
Creeping death
well, you know the rest. I would like to hear Dyers Eve in there or Through The Never, just so they mix it up a bit. Ive seen them 4 times now and 3 of those have been virtually the same set list!
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 12:20
#54
Dennis wrote:
They are the Rolling Stones of the metal world - a relentless touring juggernaut playing the same show over and over again.
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 12:29
#55
Divers (Simon) wrote:
buffalo-boy wrote:
well, you know the rest. I would like to hear Dyers Eve in there or Through The Never, just so they mix it up a bit. Ive seen them 4 times now and 3 of those have been virtually the same set list!
Yes the do end up playing alot of the same stuff… i can quite happily never hear anything off the black album ever again. Dyers Eve was great when I heard it live just spoilt by the fact that Lars couldn’t really play it… because I could have sworn that there was more/some double kick on the album version??:rolleyes:
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 12:32
#56
buffalo-boy wrote:
there’s gonna be some disagreement here but i would like to hear some more st anger stuff live. Maybe when taken away from the album the songs will sound better. Stuff like Shoot me Again and Purify are really good songs.
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 14:52
#57
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
The would have been good songs if they were 3-4 minutes long instead of 7-8.
What were they thinking???
Oh, and mixing it would have been an idea, lars not playing on trash cans, kirk playing solos…
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 14:54
#58
buffalo-boy wrote:
Thats why i want to hear them live! But you’rte right - SKOM could do with being about 4 minutes shorter! :rolleyes:
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 14:57
#59
Divers (Simon) wrote:
I like albums to be about 40-45mins in length and about 9-12 songs… your concentration doesn’t wain so much then and a good album will then leave you wanting more.. so you play it again. That’s one problem with CD some bands feel they have to fill the full 74 minutes of the format.
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 15:01
#60
buffalo-boy wrote:
what must you reckon of the slew of bands who recently released double albums then?! Imagine Metallica doing that! :p NOOOOOooOOOOOooOOOOOOOOooOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :p
Posted on Fri, 23 March 2007 at 15:03
