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johnny_knoxville’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:07 was deleted by hoochalobster (Pointless)
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Graeme55?’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:11 was deleted by hoochalobster (Response to deleted post)
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johnny_knoxville’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:13 was deleted by hoochalobster (Pointless)
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Graeme55?’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:15 was deleted by hoochalobster (Pointless)
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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
I’ve removed the latter half of this thread on grounds of… stupidity?
Really, Mr Knoxville asked a very simple question… could Therapy? be as big as they were in, shall we say, 1994?
It’s a simple question. I shall add a yes/no poll for those of you who need it.
For my own tuppence, I think that to some degree popularity and success have to be interlinked… you can’t be incredibly popular and not have some degree of success. I was going to say that you can’t be successful without being popular but then weirdos like George Bush and that crazy frog seem to prove me wrong :s
Therapy?… they are heroes to so many people, I don’t know if they will ever be as famous as they were back then, unless they go all emo on their next album but you can’t call them unsuccessful and you certainly can’t say they’re unpopular.
[/waffle]
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:40
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hoochalobster’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:41 was deleted by a moderator (Technical issue)
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johnny_knoxville wrote:
…anyway…
my view is that they could be commercially successful again
with the right promotion…
The only reason I heard about One Cure Fits All was when I joined WOM…
I know other passing fans and they never even heard about the album!
They could make Troublegum 2 and it won’t sell if people don’t hear about it!
Mr. Knox-villan x
(happy April fools to all the angst-teens in the house!)
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:50
#38
johnny_knoxville wrote:
I wonder who the one person who didn’t understand the question was…
we will have to call in Sherlock Holmes
Love
Mr Knoxville
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:52
#39
Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:
Interpretation of even the simpelist of questions is not as black and white as our ignorant minds may like to think.
its not a question of can they? anyway.
its a question of should they? and would they?
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:55
#40
johnny_knoxville wrote:
speak for yourself hahaha
Mr Knoxville
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 19:56
#41
CS (Colin S) wrote:
No.
Record labels will see them as ‘past it’, cause they aren’t as young as Fall Out Boy.
Colinx
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:00
#42
Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:
therapy? arent ‘old’ or ‘passed it’, the stooges - now theres a band who are to be honnest a bit ‘passed it’
and if therapy? wanted the popularity again it would be easy for them, all theyd have to do is return to the ravey sound of songs like innocent x, mixing metal and rave is quite popular nowadays ya’know?
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:01
#43
johnny_knoxville wrote:
the Rolling Stones are past it…
the Who are past it…
Madonna is past…
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:01
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Graeme55?’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:02 was deleted by a moderator (Message to moderator)
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Gimme Back My Brainsaw’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:03 was deleted by a moderator (Pointless)
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johnny_knoxville’s post on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 20:03 was deleted by a moderator (Trolling)
#47
Shade wrote:
Knoxville, what I meant to do is give a response to everyone’s definition of what those glory days represent. So, it’s not purely a matter of interperting your question. For the plain answer to your plain question just now (album sales/fanbase in the 90’s), I’d say yes.
To elaborate further, I do believe that there’s plenty of ground T? could walk on that could well contribute to another large scale commercial success, I’m just wondering how likely it is that they’ll do so.
And Hooch, what did you waffle on?
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 21:19
#48
Shade wrote:
Oh, also, I don’t think the original question was in fact that clear - if you look at it. Words such as ‘highs’ and ‘success’ aren’t as descriptive as many would think. Would that mean someone is ignorant? I doubt it. It just means that he didn’t mention he’s asking that question from a “business” perspective.
I’d think that’s a rather harmless question, and I can understand why a discussion gets cut up when it stems from such a simple matter and rolls into an oldschool shouting fest. ;)
Anyway, to stick with the discussion that was originally intended - I think that to succeed on that venture, T? would just need to dumb themselves down a bit.. record some more digestible music, hook up with a sterilization studio and stick with the trends, but not by too much. Deviation is needed to stand out enough to equal the success from Troublegum.
I think there’s too much audio pollution and not enough music being played (or sold for that matter) lately for T? to get a big sale count without compromising at least a fair amount.
Yes, the same old cynical blabla. ;)
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 21:29
#49
King Caffeinebomb I wrote:
I might be echoing a lot of people’s sentiments here, but I know that Therapy? are making some of the best music of their career at the moment. Each album builds on the successes of the previous one and if this was their first 20something brush with fame they would be selling out arenas and making the front page of NME and getting singles released by a record company that actually gave a crap about promoting the product and generating exposure.
As it is, they are now in a sort of second period of success, which is much less mainstream than that of the 90’s. In the 90’s they were chart-bothering top of the pops regulars and I just can’t see a band of this pedigree and experience returning to that level of exposure and mainstream popularity.
That isn’t to say that they aren’t successful - I’m sure there are plenty of flash in the pan 5 minutes of fame emo bands that would love to tour for two weeks solid, sell out every show and enjoy a dedicated and rabid fanbase which laps up everything they do.
Ultimately the media dictates to a lot of people what they like that week - in that respect Therapy? are a lot like oxtail soup - a reliable old favourite, but you’ll never be carrot or coriander or whatever flavour of the week is this week.
And that, my gemil-worshipping friends, can only be a good thing because from here we build on a loyal fanbase and as we degenerate into middle age, fatherhood and doing fucking DIY on a sunday morning we can get together every 5 years or so for half a dozen dates that sell out the size of venue not seen for 20 years and confuse the shit out of teenybopper students of the future, who haven’t been born yet, wondering who all these old farts with badly drawn triangles and question marks all over their faded grey T shirts stretched tight over beer guts are.
Choose your future
Choose life
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 22:44
#50
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
i voted yes
u never know…
Posted on Sun, 1 April 2007 at 23:47
#51
Shade wrote:
caffeinebomb, it’s not echoed elegantly enough, so it’s all good. I would agree that it’s not a bad thing for appreciators of the music, and probably not a bad thing for Therapy? either, as long as they can comfortably make ends meet.
Success is just what you make of it. In many ways; they’re at least as succesful now as they were in the early to mid-ninetees.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 06:07
#52
Dennis wrote:
caffeinebomb wrote:
*applauds*
I have said it before and I am sure I will say it again, but if ever there was a time when Therapy? could and should be huge, it is right now.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 09:13
#53
johnny_knoxville wrote:
Shade wrote:
Knoxville, what I meant to do is give a response to everyone’s definition of what those glory days represent. So, it’s not purely a matter of interperting your question. For the plain answer to your plain question just now (album sales/fanbase in the 90’s), I’d say yes.
Simple…thats what I asked…
No need to elborate…
It’s the teenagers in the room that can’t seem to focus..
Love you all,
Mr Knoxville x
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 17:51
#54
FNYANKEZ wrote:
Hate to say it, but I think it would take a big band/artist to cover one of their songs and for that cover to become a hit.
Then all the youngins will go “Wow they’re awesome because [name band here] likes them..” Then a label will jump back on them and re-release all of their stuff, and they’ll be considered influential..
Just look at Aerosmith, they weren’t even putting out any decent music (let along strong music like T?)..they were dead! And then Run-DMC came along.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 19:56
#55
fatboy wrote:
Therapy?, past it - nah.
Could they repeat their glory days?
One never knows.
Posted on Mon, 2 April 2007 at 21:40
#56
The one and only Y wrote:
Title: Plan for Therapy? to Sucess:
Re-release Troublegum
Add Loose and Diane to the album.
Get some money for promo at MTV
But I voted no.
There are oly Rap and Hiphop videos on Mtv… Fuck MTV…
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 18:40
#57
The one and only Y wrote:
But maybe the can because they are played at Game One sometimes
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 18:47
#58
ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:
I agree wih Caffiene bomb.Other bands like Turbonegro,The Melvins etc,etc, are having a rebirth as it were.Therapy? area very well respected band in the business, because they have continued to work hard,play with passion, and most of be honest.They still write tunes that can blast any radio1 drivel out of the water.In last weeks Kerrang I saw Andy in it 3 times at least.They haven’t gone away, and it gets noticed. Other people like Mark Lanegan are writing the best albums of their careers and you don’t see them on MTV.Stuff like that is not important.Yeah sure its a money spinner, but if the gigs are full, and the albums are as caustic/loud/and full of integrity, they are being successful.
Posted on Tue, 3 April 2007 at 20:29
#59
Norman wrote:
Wait till the inevitable 90ies revival is here, then they might have a chance to get that popular again.
Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 13:34
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lasereyes (peter vician) wrote:
Norman hit the point.
Or only then if they become comercial as RCHP…(play same melody with diferent names-all are same as californication) and all songs sounds like neh-nah-nah we are happy and living in yellow submarine…
I wouldnt like that kond of T?
Posted on Fri, 13 April 2007 at 14:25
