Wall of Mouths

That’s bollocks.
They both gave cases not just of moving but also reacting to something.
Sleep walking and sleep talking are both counted as disorders on that link that you posted.
Just reacting to something while dreaming isn’t the same as dangerously lighting fires in your bed or jumping out of windows. You’re trying to make it sound as if either it’s impossible to move at all, or anyone who moves while asleep must be constantly running around the room, lighting fires and talking to themselves.

Title: Get off with murder!

I remember watching a documentary where people who had BEEN WITNESSED killing their beloved had got away with it because they claimed to have been sleep walking!

The accounts of one that I remember in particular was of a doctor or lawyer or some “respected member of the comunity” in yank-land (bare in mind there was an almost identical case in the UK as well), where they were seen stabbing their wife in the garden and SEEN burning her clothes, disposing of the body and washing their hands.

They had nothing but flimsy evidence but it was eventually accepted, as the murder seemed without motive…

Something to bare in mind if your partner sleep walks!

Heheh.
*eyes Dan*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sleep/articles/whatissleep.shtml

It’s all there.

Except it says ‘most dreams’ occur in rem sleep - so I suppose if you happened to have a dream whilst not in rem sleep then you would be able to move a bit. But everything that’s gone before has always said that the whole rem phase is purely for dreaming.

I’m too hot and cross to care. :mad:

mrs h wrote:

IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY DREAMING - IE HAVING A DREAM - THEN YOUR BODY IS PARALYSED.

The links you’ve given below indicate that that’s not the case, and stating it in capitals doesn’t make it any more plausible. The same for the rest of what you wrote. None of those articles prove what you want them to.

So I stick by my original belief.

to be honest i nearly fell asleep reading all that. what was the argument about again? ;) ;)

anyway, i remember watching a documentary about people who get up in the night and stuff there faces with cakes and crisps and have no recolection of doing it. there was one rather large woman who blamed her obesity on this. not a nice thing to have but kinda funny tho. :D

i had a suspicion that woman was you mrs wotsit ;)

and no, i didnt fall for it. well, maybe a little at first

:D

mrs h wrote:

I’ve got no idea what your original belief was, you haven’t said - but although it seems that someone has now decided it is possible to have mundane ‘dreams’ with no imagery outside of REM sleep, everyone still has proper dreams during REM sleep when they are effectively paralysed. Believe what you like. I thought you were just picking holes in established facts for the sake of it, but you are clearly desperately clinging to your misconception for reasons of your own. Good luck with it.

I don’t believe that if you’re moving in your sleep then it’s utterly impossible you’re dreaming. I’d be prepared to believe otherwise, but all your examples seemed to have been hand-picked to undermine what you were trying to say. *shrugs*

*bursts into song in the style of Dido*

I will go down with this shiiiip, but I won’t put my arms up and surrender - there’ll be no white flag above my door …

Sorry Honey :)

Just wait until Wednesday - there’s no quiz, I will be doing a turn!! :D

But on topic I did have a wacky dream last night - I dreamt I was at a bus stop and my ex-line manager turned up with a load of kids from where I used to work. He asked me to look after them and I said no, it wasn’t my job anymore - so when he went I let them all wander off wherever they liked and carried on waiting for the bus. Daisy was there and her hair was really long, right down to her ankles, so i kept telling her to stand still so I could tie it up. Then these lads from school came over and said that the bus wasn’t coming but I could get a lift with them if i could be bothered to wait. So I carried on waiting whilst they shifted boxes about - I think they were in a band, when suddenly I saw this ruddy great snake curled up in the road. I pushed Daisy out of the way and grabbed it, but it was really hard to get hold of it’s jaws and it was wriggling around and trying to bite me, so i couldn’t let go. I was telling these lads to hurry up and find somewhere to put it because my arms were aching and I was worried it would bite me or escape and bite someone else - but they said I would have to wait until they had finished helping their friend move house!! I waited for ages, wrestling with this thing, which was massive, until I was knackered. after far too long somehow it fizzled out and the snake vanished and I was back at hooch’s with Daisy, and we were all in the garden when Hooch told me that the woman who normally babysat Daisy wanted to have a meeting with me. (I was wearing a suit! I just remembered that bit) and I was still trying to do something with Daisy’s hair which was dragging in the mud by now when this woman stuck her face over the hedge and she had a proper snout like a pig. I was trying to listen to what she was saying, but I could only stare at her snout. Then I woke up. Thank God!

As long as it doesn’t come true you’ll probably be ok :) It was for Hooch really - I didn’t expect anyone with your sort of attention span to read it! :p

So now it’s funny to take the piss out of older people eh? If I thought you were trying to be clever instead of just senile I would poke you in the eye with your silly shabby walking frame :mad:

*retrieves cuchulain from big pile of rakes and shovels*

*loads gun*

There you go, you show ‘em!!

Nurse this you raskal !

* fires randomly at anything that moves *