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Any fans on here?

I saw them at the Bulldog Bash over the weekend, as a non-fan who just knew their “hits” (you know, New Rose, Smash It Up, That Bloody Cover…)

Thought they were quite interesting - a lot more psychadelic and trippy than I had imagined.

Where’s a good place to start with them?

Ideally I’d like to get a good, contemporary live album or DVD with a good selection from their career, rather than a badly-recorded 1970’s album, but any pointers anyone…?

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 10:23

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

The rerelease of Machine Gun Ettiquette is great, get that.

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 10:33

#2

Dennis wrote:

Cheers misanth’!

They are one of those bands that I kind of stumble on every now and then and think “why the hell don’t I have any of their stuff?!”

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 10:44

#3

Divers (Simon) wrote:

I really like the Black Album… a bit further into their career a real solid album with great playing… Wiat for the black out is still one of my fav songs.

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 10:47

#4

Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

what song did they play on the Young Ones whats it on? ta.

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 11:00

#5

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

No problem. It’s worth pointing out that their sound changes quite a bit over the years, the later stuff generally being a bit more refined and ‘poppy’.

Final Damnation is also a cool live album to get (recorded ‘88, though, so not exactly new’). I’d stay away from the Final Damnation dvd, though, purelys because of the irritating-as-all-fuck ‘narration’ that’s been between (and sometimes over) every song. :mad:
You can see them on youtube, anyway.
eg.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrWHo5DyiU

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 11:08

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Posted on Thu, 16 August 2007 at 11:10

#7

Citizen Erased wrote:

There’s a million and one best ofs & compilations but ‘The Light At the End of the Tunnel’ is a pretty good collection & the record I grew up with.

Strawberries is a pretty cool album although bit less spiky than the others

Posted on Wed, 22 August 2007 at 08:15

#8

mrs h wrote:

Aah Vanian :) *drools*

I was going to say how much it irritates me when young people start going on about old bands, but I have just discovered the joys of Frank Sinatra! :D

Posted on Wed, 22 August 2007 at 11:01

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kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:

There came a program from finnish telly last Saturday and there was footage from that Bulldog Bash fest with, from stage and backstage. It was this UK program where different families goes on holiday to places where they usually wouldn´t go. Anybody seen this program in UK? Guess that the program was called “Holiday fever”…

Posted on Wed, 22 August 2007 at 11:06

#10

Dennis wrote:

Didn’t see the programme, but I can imagine the shock to the system that the Bulldog Bash could be to someone who likes all-inclusive hotel holidays in the south of France!

@ mrs h. Is it irritating when OLD people get into old bands…? Most of my music collection is what HMV would call “back catalogue” and I almost always get into a band years after the event, either when they have split up or died or become Butlins regulars.

Posted on Wed, 22 August 2007 at 11:11

#11

Superunknown wrote:

Divers wrote:

Wiat for the black out is still one of my fav songs.

Mine too.

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 11:21

#12

mrs h wrote:

Sorry Dennis, I didn’t notice that question - or if I did my brain blocked it out :(

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with getting into a band years after the fact at all - it only irritates me when it’s punk bands, and the very people who used to despise punk suddenly start trying to take ownership of it. It disgusts me. And what disgusts me even more is the way that any kid these days watching a programme set in the late 70s or early 80s would think that everyone was into punk and the whole world rolled around to a Clash soundtrack!

For your information, kiddies, most people really hated punk and punks at the time but won’t admit it now because they think it makes them seem like wankers. which they are.

Are you a wanker, Dennis?

Sorry.

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 11:34

#13

Dennis wrote:

I am a wanker, but still..

I was in the pub on Sunday and they had VH1 doing a “Beat Club Live - Punk Special” and there was some fantastic stuff on there.

Sex Pistols (of course), Damned, New York Dolls, Skids - Into The Valley (classic!), Clash, Ramones…etc etc. Not to mention some great post-punk music from Blondie, The Jam. Admittedly they also played Teenage Kicks which seems to have a mirror-image effect on me to what it did for John Peel (i.e. I hate it. Mind, My Perfect Cousin and that one that goes “Jimmy Jimmy ohhh” are top notch)

Naturally, most punk was shite, as befits a genre with such a “DIY, anyone can get up and do it” ethos (see also “Baggy”). I don’t want anyone and everyone to be able to form bands and make records - I want cool people who play great music and write amazing songs to do it, not some kid who and thrashes at an instrument he deliberately hasn’t learned to play (or even tune) just cos that is somehow deemed to make it “authentic”. Especially when many of them weren’t “authentic” at all, posh kids changing their names to something “more working class” and all that malarkey.

By ‘eck, I were reet about that saddle , though…

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 12:33

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mrs h wrote:

Well admittedly a lot of it was shite but a lot of it was fantastic - especially when we were just crawling, numbed and stupefied out of the Abba years. Anyway, all my friends were punks and got so much stick for it you wouldn’t believe - (I didn’t really dress the part for very long because I was worried it might impact on the little Hoochalobster. I wish I had now - the only picture of me she keeps up on the wall is the bleached spiky one!!) Anyway, now every f**king BBC drama has old punk songs in the soundtrack, and that’s just sad. Bastards.

Weird you should say that about the Undertones though - Teenage Kicks was the only one I really liked! Into the Valley was indeed classic - I still have it on 7” vinyl somewhere :) And it’s impossible NOT to love the Ramones, the Dickies and the Clash so I’ll let the BBC off for those…

Anyway - I wasn’t having a go at music fans, of course it’s good that people get into stuff - It just gets on my nerves when it’s portrayed on TV as though every young person in the UK in the late seventies was a creative individualistic punk rocker when the vast majority were actually flickhead fuckwits.

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 13:04

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Dennis wrote:

I agree, same as when the 80’s are portrayed with all this really cool stuff like The Smiths and New Order. It’s cobblers, everywhere you went in the 80’s it was all Duran sodding Duran and Spandau Feck Me They Were Even Worse Ballet. And Howard Jones. And Shakin Stevens. And Bucks Fizz.

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 13:13

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mrs h wrote:

lol :D

I ignored the whole of the eighties in truth - I spent them having kids and listening to a lot of punk, reggae and dub (and New Order). And getting a bit wasted if I’m honest … Although at least I have good kids. And I discovered Tracy Chapman in the eighties so that was good too :)

You may or may not be interested to know that Sarah’s first word was ‘ta’, but her second, third, fourth and fifth words were ” Jaz, Geordie, Youth, Paul” - each of which she could identify on photographs of Killing Joke :)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 13:21

#17

Dennis wrote:

:D

She’s better than me then, Jaz Coleman aside I wouldn’t know the ‘Joke from Adam. Though I could hazard a guess that the chappie in just a fig leaf , looking at my mobile phone like it had come from outer space may well be Adam.

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 13:47

#18

mrs h wrote:

Adam is d’s brother. You’d recognise him because he looks a bit like a cross between d’s mum and dad.

Sarah was a very clever child. It’s all in the upbringing, you know. That and a healthy dollop of superb genes :D

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 13:59

#19

deadsetgav wrote:

Killing Joke are fuckin ace! woohoo!

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 14:40

#20

mrs h wrote:

Are they? To be honest I stopped listening to them after they appeared on Top of the Pops with ‘Birds of a feather’. That was shite, and the shame was unbearable. My sister binned her leather jacket that day because of the Killing Joke emblem on the back of it. But everything before that was excellent :) Maybe they got it back - I hope so :)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 15:53

#21

deadsetgav wrote:

They went a bit weird in the 80’s… Early stuff is great, I still like ‘Night Time’ even though it is a bit 80’s sounding… then they went crap, but early 90’s they got good again. Pandemonium is great, as is the 2nd self titled album and ‘Hosanahs From The Basements of Hell’

Jaz is a total nutjob (although I met him in Preston and he’s a really nice chap)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 16:02

#22

deadsetgav wrote:

I did take the liberty of swapping one of the n’s in ‘Hosanna’ for a h - hope you dont mind ;)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 16:05

#23

deadsetgav wrote:

I do miss the ‘edit post’ button

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 16:06

#24

kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:

Phantasmagoria is my favourite, I listened to that Damned record daily back in 85, just love it! Shadow of love, yam, yam:)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 16:12

#25

mrs h wrote:

@ Gav - Have you seen them live? I stared the bugger out whilst sat on the stage at one of their gigs :D They were amazing live. And they had great fans too - the atmosphere was always brilliant even if the venue was crap :)

Posted on Tue, 28 August 2007 at 16:21

#26

deadsetgav wrote:

Yeah, a few times, I’ve seen em in Preston and in Manchester a couple of times.

Quality live band… then they have had 25 years practice.

Posted on Wed, 29 August 2007 at 08:32

#27

mrs h wrote:

They were excellent before they had 25 years practice, and thanks so much for drawing attention to that fact! :p

*buggers off to take rollers out*

*hair rollers - not the Bay City lads*

*has blue rinse*

Posted on Wed, 29 August 2007 at 08:45

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Divers (Simon) wrote:

The damned i do love and have seen a few times, they are one of my childhood bands… even though they shouldn’t be given my age but fuck it… the only problem is i can’t forgive Captain Sensible for “happy Talk”

Posted on Wed, 29 August 2007 at 10:56

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mrs h wrote:

lol - I know what you mean. It was on TOTP2 the other day and was even worse than I remembered it!

Posted on Wed, 29 August 2007 at 11:00

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